Good call by JPs
Pleased to see that charges against Virenda Singh were dismissed by JPs:
Prosecutors said Mr Singh used excessive force against the two teens after he was stabbed following an altercation outside his Gilbert Road discount liquor store in Otara last September.
One of many weird Police decisions.
News of Mr Singh’s court victory sparked a street party in Otara.
A crowd spent the afternoon outside Gilbert Road Discount Liquor playing cricket. Supporters tooted their car horns as they passed.
Mr Singh was flooded with calls and text messages from well-wishers.
Indeed worth celebrating.
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March 26th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Chalk one up for mob rule
Discount liquor means selling bottles of spirits for $6.99 a litre . At least those who have left high school can see the difference between coincidence and direct consequences.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
One if the best articles I have read on this kind of police behaviour, relating to the UK experience (they are a few years ahead of us), is:
“Labour’s Punishment Freaks Are Hounding Honest Citizens” by Ross Clark in The Spectator:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/the-magazine/features/2057251/labours-punishment-freaks-are-hounding-honest-citizens.thtml
The cartoon at the start of the article alone is worth clicking the link to look at – I think it is one of the most wickedly pointed cartoons I have ever seen.
Rex Widerstrom and Stephen Franks, I know will enjoy and agree with the article.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am
“Discount liquor means selling bottles of spirits for $6.99 a litre.”
What’s wrong with that? These are legitimate business who are selling goods and trying to make money.
The fact that some of their customers are thugs indulging in criminal activities is more the reason for the owners to defend themselves. Another guilty party, and undoubtly the main offender, is the welfare state which continues to supporting the lifestyle of lazy people and their offspring (the young thugs) through countless benefits.
In this particular case, the decision is not only correct but just.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Stephen Franks blogs on this in detail and is well worth a look. Sorry i dont know how to insert a link. Could someone post an instruction on how to do so.
http://www.StephenFranks.co.nz
March 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I agree DPF — it was good that the charges had been dropped but only after Justices of the Peace were involved.
The weird decision was for the police to charge a man defending his life and property. What is wrong with our police? Has nine years of socialism eroded their commonsense?
I would like the Minister of police to make it very clear to those running the police force that law-abiding citizens defending their life and property can do so without fear of police prosecution.
Also, while I am on the subject, the police need to understand that sometimes citizens have to take the law in their own hands. The police are not always there. Our system of freedom relies on law-abiding citizens intervening to stop criminal activity.
And above all citizens must have the right to defend themselves and their property. The police stance on this issue has been an embarrassment for a decade. It is time for the police Minister to put a stake in the ground. No more of this woolly headed nonsense. Maybe it is time for a change in personnel amongst senior police officers.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
“One of many weird Police decisions.”
It is not the job of the police to make the law – they’re there to enforce it. Therefore when they are unsure about how to apply the law (as occured in this case) it should go to the courts to decide. It seems to me that the system worked pretty well here.
We should be wary of giving the police too much power.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Scott- couldn’t agree more.
Without the means and right to self-defence you have no self-defence.
JVH – mob rule? One man was attacked by a group and you call that mob rule. FUck off you troll.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am
JVH: Any chance you could tell us exactly what these $6.99-a-litre spirits are? I find it hard to get drinkable wine at those prices, never mind a decent Scotch.
Oh and by the way, I’m going to Mr Singh’s shop this weekend specifically to buy my booze there. Men like him should be rewarded rather than hounded.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Greg BB- the Police decide to prosecuet or not prosecute every day. It just seems that every time someone defends themselves or their property they DO get charged and end up with the resulting financial burden of defending themselves often crippling them for years to come.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
“Chalk one up for mob rule”
You have this arse about face. It was a mob that attacked him, including stabbing him. He was the lone defender.
Even you must see the justice in this case. Sometimes your desire just to start an arguement really does make you sound like a prat. This is one of those times.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Perhaps it is time to consider moving towards the system that has been in use for hundreds of years in Scotland. Police there apparently do not and cannot prosecute anyone. Their role is simply to investigate, collect evidence and prepare a case. An independent legal officer. (The Procurator Fiscal) decides whether there is enough evidence and if there is not then no prosecution takes place. This mightily annoys the police sometimes when they are told to go back and only return when they have more more evidence. It results in a higher conviction rate and more guilty pleas. Here there is a temptation for the police to bring a prosecution and see what happens at the vagaries of the court system.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Great idea Bearhunter. Those in the Auckland area buying alcohol it would be nice to frequent Mr. Singh’s store and while doing so wish him all the best. I think that would be a nice gesture.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
I agree with Greg BB – the police were doing their job, enforcing the law. Yes they have a descretion, but there are always bordeline cases that will be thrown out. This is for the Court to decide.
Brian – I don’t agree with your last comment where you state “every time someone defends themselves or their property” it seems they get charged. Unless you have statistics from the Police or MoJ, I think this is pure speculation and not based on fact. The police do have charging discretion and rightly so. They are criticised for failing to act in a number of situations, and again are being criticised here for a borderline decision. They should have charged Mr Singh – if he’s not guilty or there is not enough evidence, then the court, as happened in this case, may make such a finding.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
That fucktard jacob is really calling it “mob rule” for a guy who is defending himself and his nephew who had both been stabbed from a group of five armed thugs who continued trying to attack the man when they could have have just left any time?
And since when was A judge a mob you utter tool.
Apprently the socialist are infavor of stabbing everyone who sells alcohol. And you wonder why you got thrown out on your colective asses.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
There is no way you can read the details of the incident and think it is borderline. Five aggressors on one, victim with bleeding leg wound – are these uneven odds in favour of the victim in your universe?
Fisiani has it right and that is exactly what we need here. How the hell can a prosecutor ask the defendant where the blood came from on the hockey stick? It’s an admission of zero investigation and manufacturing evidence during a trial. If the crown did not know, the defence did not know and vice versa. If the crown did know, it has witheld evidence from the defence counsel. It was completely unacceptable evidence to present in court. It’s like asking whether Mr. Singh had beaten his wife that day, without any knowledge of his martial situation, in an attempt to cast doubt on his character. That is borderline criminal. And to what end? What was the purpose? So that five thugs could go free and a man attacked could go to prison. And we wonder why our violent crime stats are skyrocketing.
The Judge made the right decision in throwing out the case, because it wasn’t a case – it was just an accusation, a knee jerk response, that unsurprisingly follows an official ideology all to common over the past 15 years.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am
One of the factors in this whole saga, is that the attack on this Mr Singh took place a very short time after the fatal shooting of another Mr Singh, a liqour store proprietor in Mangere, as he was complying with his attackers.
One can safely assume that these events were still fresh in the mind of Virenda as these thugs entered the store with the intent of robbing it at knifepoint. While the police may well state that the best tactic is to do as demanded by an armed intruder, the outcome of the case where the police advice was followed, was fatal. Where the property and life of the victim were successfully defended, against police advised best practice, the outcome was far more suitable.
The police decision to proceed with the case is in my opinion, very ill advised. It sends a message to those who might carry out crimes of violence that they can expect to carry out these acts unchallenged.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
jacob van hartog
Chalk one up for mob rule
Couldn’t agree more.
Brian Smaller
Greg BB- the Police decide to prosecute or not prosecute every day.
Based upon likelihood of conviction, not their own moral judgment of the offenders actions.
Murray
And since when was A judge a mob you utter tool.
JP not a judge, they operate quite different than judges, often with very little or no legal training. Often putting populism (mob rule) over principle (the law), and this is a perfect example of that, if you and every one else is so convinced that what he did was right and that every one agrees with you then you would have no trouble with it going to court and being heard in front of a jury.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Congratulations to Mr Singh, but I’m not sure this is worth celebrating. His case was only dropped for lack of evidence. But for that, he’d be off to court. This, most unfortunately, will not help the next store owner who is attacked.
And Mr Singh’s life was turned upside down for six months while police and courts took their sweet time making up their mind not to proceed.
So I think Mr Singh has plenty to be pissed off about, as does the next retailer who tries to defend themselves.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Fisiani – you can post a link by typing
<a href="[link]">[text]</a>
Replace [link] and [text] with the http: reference and the words to be hyperlinked respectively.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I agree with GregBB also.
Singh alleged he had a defence. That is for the courts to decide.
I should remind people that Clint Rickard also said he had an exculpatory justification – consent. I guess the cops shouldn’t have charged him either, nor the police recruit who had his rape charge biffed out by the JP’s yesterday also.
The police do *a* job. Not all jobs. Singh chased these guys down the road and whacked them on the ground a long way from his shop. At face value it doesn’t sound like self defence, more like retribution, and retribution is not a defence.
Having said that, the system has functioned like it should and the case is gone. I am pleased.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Gooner
Singh chased these guys down the road and whacked them on the ground a long way from his shop. At face value it doesn’t sound like self defence, more like retribution, and retribution is not a defence.
That’s the bit that get’s me, if it was in his shop or immediately outside I would have no problem.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Personally I don’t have a problem with Mr Singh being charged in this case as I agree that it’s not the Police’s role to judge the case but rather simply to present it to the courts if their is sufficient evidence. What I do have a problem with this case and other similar ones is an innocent person facing thousands of dollars worth of legal bills incurred by defending themselves.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
I stand corrected, a JP is “a mob”.
Jesus its the battle of the fuckwits here at kiwiblog today isn’t it.
Get t-shirts guys, Socialist for Stabbing!
March 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
So the JPs decided not to prosecute on the grounds of “the public mood”, yeah I bet they fucking did. Whats the bet the result would be far different if we were still suffering under the Marxists regime from her on the ninth floor. The pass regime looked upon self defense for the individual with disdain. Under a Marxist government the people are conditioned to be subservient to the state, the state does not what individuals to feel empowered to take control, be it self defense or smacking ones child. The state has hijacked the police and I suspect most are to stupid to realise it. Mr Singh’s sin along with many others is that they have refused to yield to state directives in this socialist world the state is the only one that can and will dispense “justice”.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Great. I get a negative Karma for implying retribution shouldn’t prevail. If y’all think retribution is a standard we should live by then I don’t want to live in this country.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
It is a terible thing to say but sometimes I just wish tools like racer and JVH would one day experience what it is like to be mugged or robbed by a bunch of thugs, preferably ones with a good “i am the real victim” story so they can kiss and cuddle at the restorative justice session later – assuming they were alive at the end of it of course.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Bye bye then. What is wrong with Utu?
March 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am
There was a Tremain cartoon once, where a guy was sitting up in bed looking out the door at a darkened hallway….
The dialogue went something like this:
“Who’s that……?”
“A burglar….”
“Are you armed…..?”
“I’ve got a bit of 4 by 2……”
“Hang on, I’ll get one too….RIGHT…..get out of my house…..!!!!!!”
BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Burglar) “Oh, me mate’s got a gun………”
That about says it all about the liberal cocks that presume to judge the actions of people suddenly and frighteningly confronted by criminals.
FFS. Anyone confronted in this way should be legally entitled to regard their own life at threat and to do whatever it takes. End of effing story. If you don’t want to be hurt by someone defending their property, don’t effing break in to it/burgle it/ confront them with a weapon. Time for a counter revolution to clean the liberal cocks out of our institutions before it is too late. There is an agenda at work here. Read that article I linked to at the top of the thread.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Brian – cos then you get mob rule which you have criticised JVH for suggesting we have.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:35 am
I watched Underbelly last night. The enact Utu all the time. Is that what you want Brian? Everyone walking around with guns shooting people?
Go live in Mexico then.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Gooner – when does self defence become retribution?
The thugs who robbed Mr. Singh at the point of a knife
were unlikely to wait “near” his shop so he could “warn” them
he was a little pissed off.
I have no problem with his actions, but I do have a problem with the
direction society has given the decision makers who supposedly direct our police.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:40 am
“Brian – cos then you get mob rule which you have criticised JVH for suggesting we have.”
If the case had gone to trial it would have been decided by a jury (a more legally ignorant and less honest “mob” than the “mob” of JPs). I also point out that the JP’s official decision was not to proceed due to contradictory statements from witnesses rather than if he was right or not.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Mr.Singh’s defence was that he was being robbed. He had been stabbed. He feared for the safety of his family. We are asked to cast this aside because one criminal youth was drunk.
No I don’t get it. I’ll try to understand again.
Ok, so Mr.Singh was wrong to run after and hit his attacker. He should have stayed inside his shop, unaffected by adrenalin, unaffected by the fear of the threat he saw to his family and business. But even if he had stayed inside, these things we are asked to believe, are not understandable. We cannot appreciate them happening. We must not. He should have acted better. Completely calmly. Better, you could say, than a trained armed policeman. For example, one confronted by a man with a golf club or hammer. He should have possesed the kind of knowledge and courage only a war veteran could possess.
We are told these inconceivable traits – fear, self defence, retribution – must prove his guilt and overide any crime of the attacking gang because one of the youths was wasted and deserved to be understood to be wasted, and later one had a broken tooth.
This is the defintion of the biased and twisted liberal system placing huge responsibilities on an average man – knowledge and experience that even trained policemen cannot adhere to – and no responsiblity whatsoever placed on the on the criminal. We are asked to understand the criminal, and criticise the victim. The criminal is flawed, deserving of sympathy, but the victim should have been better prepared – did he not know that criminals exist?
Utter and complete liberal bullshit.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
goodgod
Utter and complete liberal bullshit.
Dead horse flogged so long that it is now entirely devoid of meaning, get a real argument.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Justice Young may be a little miffed you think of him as a JP
March 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I have, in plain view, where’s yours?
March 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
See above.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
School out early today, racer?
March 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
It’s quite simple really, if your so certain this criminal sack of shit thug has done nothing wrong then you’ll have no problem with him facing up to a jury. If they acquit him I have no problems with his actions either, if not your cuddling up to criminals.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
off topic (but helpful!)
Fisiani – to insert a link into a post follow this example:
Click on this [a href="www.somesite.com/blah"]link[/a] to read about it.
Just replace the ['s with less-than symbols, and the ]‘s with greater-than symbols in this example and you’re set!
This is your first bit of HTML. The tag ‘a’ (‘anchor tag’) is opened with the [a...] and then closed with the [/a]. The ‘href=’ is an attribute of the anchor tag.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I do not necessarily think retribution is a standard we should live by but it should be a legitimate defence in the heat of the moment. For example if someone wakes up and finds someone in his child’s room molesting them and they escape. If he gives chase and catches them and gives them a couple of kicks in the ribs for good measure I do not see the problem. If he caves their skull in that is a different matter.
In the case of Singh, we are not sure if it was retribution or he was trying to apprehend the offender without getting stabbed again.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
“In the case of Singh, we are not sure if it was retribution or he was trying to apprehend the offender without getting stabbed again”
Hitting someone in the head with a hockey stick while someone else is holding them down… I’m fairly sure which it was.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
How can he be a sack of shit criminal thug without having first faced the jury you propose? Guilty till proven innocent? You’re a bit of an infant, my boy.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Of course the bleaters and whingers who are against citizens defending themselves and their families would be the frist to complain if they or theior nearest and dearest were attacked going about their lawful business defended themselves and then were arrested and thrown into the clink by Plod
they would be frothing and foaming about it. But when it happens to another person wh is not white then they get on their high horse
FOXTROT OSCAR 2 faced arseholes
March 26th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
That didn’t happen. Next.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Good to see Singh let off. I don’t know much about the actual legal facts of the case but on the face of it, it seems the right decision to my sense of natural justice.
Now, at some stage there will be a rich vein of material to mine, if/when we address DPF’s ongoing tendency to publicly critique the decisions/actions of the Police and the Courts on little more than that very same basis (a political enthusiast’s generalized sense of natural justice) but with little or no acknowledgment or proviso that he was not a witness at the crime scene, nor was he in court to see all of the evidence that went into the decisions that he so often criticises!
Or am I being a bit harsh here?
March 26th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Gooner, some of the negative Karma may have been because of your comment above.
Of course the police recruit should not have been charged. Where was the evidence? Just the word of a woman with a history of making false complaints.
March 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Actions have consequences – if an attempt to rob a liquor store with violence leads to a violent response, so be it.
The idea of the little thugs hiding behind police skirts when they find they have bitten off more than they can chew would be kind of amusing if we didn’t take it so seriously.
March 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Justice is about Revenge, giving chase and apprehending an offender so he can be brought to justice is about revenge, you want the person to pay for violating the law and you don’t want him to escape, wacking him in the head to subdue him so he can be apprehended and brought to justice is not wrong, especially when you have been attacked by a group of lawless citizens and knifed.
As far as i am concerned Mr Singh was well within his rights to use force to apprehend those people so they could be brought to justice, had the police not been so hasty to show that they are the big boys in town and that the state is the only one allowed to use force against citizens then they would have dropped the case.
They don’t like the power structure being challenged.
March 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Others may have followed this closer than I and one doesn’t like to encourage the police charging the innocent and/or unlucky but I did hear one report of Mr Singh beating said youth with a hockey stick as if it was an axe chopping wood. Now this may have been disputed and the JPs might have thought the witness was a great big fat liar but on the face of it that sounds like an allegation that the force used goes beyond self-defence. On that, admittedly media snippet, the police would have been justified in charging (after all there is no defence of “the little shit asked for it”).
Would be interested in opinion of anyone who followed the case closely.
March 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Being a good little socialist sycophant is all about snappy catch phrases and buzz words.
“Mob rule” is the emotive reaction to any hint of actually independance and the right to self defence by the ultra left socialists who would rather have the law abiding retailer stabbed to death than have five law breaking scum lose a couple of teeth.
Ever wondered why socialism is such a miserable failure everywhere they’re stupid enough to try it?
It really is a mystery isn’t it.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
jacob van hartog, you have dark, dark heart.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
This sums up racer’s mentality. He thinks that Singh is a criminal sack of shit. That is the disconnect that leftist trolls like she has with reality. Teenage criminals are the victim, the person BEING ROBBED is the thug. Real life means when someone robs you with a weapon you could end up DEAD. You don’t get a second chance like racer’s playstation games. Grow up racer.
If you live in Auckland racer, then go to his shop and call him what you just called him. I would suggest from what I have seen of him he would smile and tell you to please leave at worst. Say the same thing to the teenagers crims who attacked him and they will beat you up at best.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Brian Smaller, you may be onto something there. It also explains the OUTRAGE caused by suggesting people give some money to charity with the socialists calling it toffee nosed elitism. Of course, the people who would have benefitted from the charity don’t get a say in this.
We never asked people about their politics before we served them at the City Mission. And they didn’t ask us. It just didn’t come up.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Petal – I have lived my entire adult life without ever starting a fight or physically hurting anyone, I haven’t robbed a dairy or liquor store. I have been mugged twice so have some experience of being attacked by thugs. People like racer have no idea of what happens in the real world.
I was attacked in the Square in Palmy by three teenagers back in the 80s. One stabbed me in the stomach with a screwdriver and one whacked me in the head with a hatchet before I got away – and the one with the hatchet threw it at me as I ran and it almost broke my shoulder. I couldn’t see shit because my glasses were smashed off my head by the hatchet blow.
The three teenagers got charged with “assault”. Not assault with a deadly weapon, not attempted murder. Their punishment was restitution for my glasses of which I got a total of $17.51. If I had a gun I would have happily killed the three of them BEFORE they swung those weapons at me. Racer and gooner call that “mob rule”. I wasn’t killed by pure luck. The screwdriver turned in my leather jacket and just scraped my stomach and the hatchet glanced rather than hit sharp edge onto my temple because I was throwing myself sideways as it struck. Palmy being a small place I was able to keep track of these teenagers while I lived there. Two became gang members.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
goodgod:
Guilty till proven innocent?
If it’s good enough for Garth McVictim is good enough for me.
goodgod:
School out early today, racer?
You’re a bit of an infant, my boy.
Brian Smaller
Grow up racer.
Keep working on that meme guys, good to know my opinion hurts you so much that you have to resort to name calling.
goodgod
That didn’t happen. Next.
Yes it did. Next.
Murray
Being a good little socialist sycophant is all about snappy catch phrases and buzz words.
The entire national government and almost every one of thier appearances in the media is entirely catch phrases, I dont see what your complaining about. Unless your just here to renew your its ok when we do it but not ok when they do club membership.
Brian Smaller :
If you live in Auckland racer, then go to his shop and call him what you just called him.
I don’t really want to get beaten up by a violent thug.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Brian – you’re wrong. If you had a gun and were being stabbed then by all means shoot the little sh*theads. I don’t have a problem with that.
What I have raised eyebrows over is you being stabbed, the little shi*s running away, you giving chase, and then you shooting them in the back as they run away (provided they are not endangering other members of the public).
Big, big difference.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
It didn’t happen. No one sat on him while he was hit. So you’re a liar. You have to lie to continue with your lies.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Goodgod, that was alleged to have happened. The JP’s didn’t discount it; they said there were contradictions in evidence.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Oh for the good old days of pre mid 1980′s or so, of the good coppers and fine men of the bench. Funny thing is, the law relating to self defense hasn’t changed one iota for decades. Everytime I hear cases of such extraordinary stupidity by the police nowadays, my mind always wonders back to that mid-winter Friday night in Riverview Rd, Panmure, where a neighbour upon suspecting a burglar at his neighbour’s house, fetched his revolver (unlicenced and illegal), and went next door to investigate. BANG! He shot dead the burglar. The police decided not to prosecute. Oh, for the good old days…(sigh).
March 26th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Racer I would point out that i have already said that then entire National party is too left wing for my liking.
You have simply reinforced my observation. You asume that because you are a wool blind ultra left wing sycophant who is simply unable to see ANY wrong by party that we are all like that.
I’m not a National party suporter, sorry to break your brain like that but it was a rather fragile thing anyway.
March 26th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Murray, ACT are too left wing for your liking.
March 26th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Even if Singh did chase these little scrotes what is wrong with a little retribution? The likes of Racer et al will happily point out how heavier sentences don’t work, and to a point they are right. For a deterrent to be effective it needs to be immediate other wise the perpetrators get to rationalise their actions, after all it’s not their fault they decided to stab this man… Ask yourself why the crims always go for the “soft targets”, removal of the soft targets would be the most effective form of deterrent possible.
Unfortunately this is fraught with difficulty, where do you cross the line, how far should Mr. Singh have been allowed to pursue the aggressors, what force at that juncture would have been appropriate? Whilst turning NZ into the wild west isn’t the answer diluting the ability for a person to defend themselves, family and property is effectively opening the gates to the barbarians.
Well done Mr Singh and the JPs
March 26th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
if someone stabbed me
i’d chase them to the ends of the
earth with a pool cue
March 26th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I remember being flabbergasted when these people were charged and I believe the media in New Zealand did a shit job covering this. They should never have been charged. The media should have investigated this better. And while a good call has been made and the media are all celebrating it. I’m still disturbed that this ever happened.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Excellent!
“Rambo Granny of Melbourne , Australia
Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down and shot off their testicles.
The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -and, when she found them, she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne police investigators.
Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant’s desk and told him as calm as could be: ‘Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.’
Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth , 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the hotel room where he and former prison cell mate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up.
The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas’ testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. ‘The one guy, Thomas, didn’t lose his manhood, ‘but the doctor I talked to said he won’t be using it the way he used to,’
Detectives told reporters. ‘Both men are still in pretty bad shape,
‘but I think they’re just happy to be alive after what they’ve been through.’
The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter
Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row.
‘When I saw the look on my Debbie’s face that night in the hospital, ‘I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself ”cause I figured the Law would go easy on them,’ recalled the retired library worker.. ‘And I wasn’t scared of them, either – because I’ve got me a gun and I’ve been shootin’ all my life. ‘And I wasn’t dumb enough to turn it in when the law changed about owning one.’
So, using a police artist’s sketch of the suspects and Debbie’s description of the sickos, tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place till she spotted the ill-fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel.
‘I knew it was them the minute I saw ‘em, but I shot a picture of ‘em anyway
‘and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them,’ the oldster recalled..
‘So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door, ‘and the minute the big one opened the door, I shot ‘em right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt ‘em most, you know.
‘Then I went in and shot the other one ‘as he backed up pleading to me to spare him. ¡Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in..’
Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with the vigilante granny. ‘What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison,’ Police said, ‘especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate her for Mayor.’
DEPORT HER TO BRITAIN – WE NEED HER! “
March 27th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Please forgive me for not as being as PC as Fushunchups.
Pigs = Pigshit that is as thick as pigshit.
But they follow the morals and mentality of the majority in a democracy (ie. not their fault).
The Maoris have acted atrociously and racistly over the last 20 years at least. Just look at their last disgusting assaults upon your last 2 prime-ministers. Verbal, then physical. One New Zealand, OK let me tell you a secret, the Maori see that as One Maori nation. Surprise to you? Of course not.
You, the white moral majority, have allowed it as well, let’s face it things have been good.
Now things are not good, and maybe 80 % of violent crimes are Maori. I am in China and it seems to me, most murder/manslaughter or serious violent crime reports, follow up with Maori names.
So, let us imagine the Maoris as two bad teeth in the otherwise healthy mouth of the beautiful and karmic New Zealand. About 16%.
The Asians are growing rapidly, thank God.
I think at least 11% Chinese by now.
So, what we need is more people, with the balls of V Singh, to take a hockey stick and try to bang out those two bad teeth.
YES IT IS A RACIAL PROBLEM!!! THE MAORIS ARE FUCKING YOUR COUNTRY!!!
Would the Maoris fuck Aussies, like they fuck Kiwis!!? Of course not.
Grow some, white people, as you are the cops, the judges, the law makers. Support your Asian friends. We all know they are ten times better than the bloody Maoris. The Maoris are not from New Zealand, they are like a nasty blight, a disease, on this beautiful country.
Support the Asian heroes such as V Singh and try and knock those two ugly teeth out! Only 16% remember.
Why do you fear them so much? Grow some! Get thicker skins, as if you cannot fight off Aussie bloggers, how the Hell are you going to fight off the bloody Maoris and send them back to Hawaii or wherever they came from?
They don’t belong in such a beautiful, peaceful country.
Fuck the Haka, it is all about violence, like most of their culture and annoys the fantails and the Kiwis.
Did anyone actually watch Once Were Warriors? Written by a Maori author (who I respect) and directed by a Maori.
The message was “once were warriors”.
You PC majority allow them to be still “warriors”.
Grow some, open your minds!
March 27th, 2009 at 8:59 am
They’re not warriors, warriors have honor.
March 27th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
WebWrat – Great story and what I consider to be natural justice.
Robert Black – Finally someone else who agrees with me, the Maori are NOT the native people of New Zealand any more than the european people are. They are imigrants that got here between 950AD and 1130AD so how are they the NATIVE people of New Zealand?