Political Trivia Quiz of the Day?
March 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pm by David FarrarWhich MP will be eligible to title herself as “Lady” if her husband changes his DCNZM for a KNZM?
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March 10th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Peter Dunne
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Sue Bradford.
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Georgina Te Heuheu
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
My first thought was Hekia Parata, but the style (not ‘title’) Lady can only be used by the wives of those with knighthoods if they use their husband’s surname.
[DPF: Correct. That is why I said eligible - she could style herself Lady Gardiner if she chose to. I think I am on safe grounds, saying it is very unlikely!]
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
you’re right Graeme – Harawira Gardiner gets her past the post…I was clearly wrong – always get Timoti and Tumu mixed up (I hope she doesn’t!)
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Hopefully no one, in this day and age. The honour is awarded to the recipient… for anyone else to try and style themselves something as a result is rather pathetic.
Last “Lady” I head of was Lady Renouf, who’s making quite a name for herself as a Holocaust denier, and seems to receive publicity only because of her “title”, which no journo seems to realise wasn’t awarded to her at all.
Besides, it doesn’t work in reverse so it’s clearly a sexist anachronism… surely none of our enlightened Parliamentarians would betray the Sisterhood?!
Greenfly – I gave you a thumbs up for that one, despite snorting coffee through my nose.
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Graeme: according to the Beehive’s Q&A she can use it as a courtesy title in association with her other name
The wife of a knight who, for professional or other purposes uses her maiden name,
may use the courtesy title in association with her other names. For example:
Mary Brown, Lady Smith
Vote:or Miss Mary Brown, (Lady Smith)
or Dr Mary Brown (Lady Smith)
or Lady Smith (Dr Mary Brown)
March 10th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
And I was about to congratulate you in my comment … I then thought “hey – I thought she was Sir Tumu’s brother?” And then I thought, “hey, but Tumu got a real knighthood anyway – before it changed to the DCNZM – so anyone married to him could already use the style Lady.” Then I got even more confused, so left the congratulations out to be safe.
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Tumu’s father Sir Hepi got a real gong, Tumu was bestowed his DCNZM in ’04,sans title
Vote:But Te Ariki or Paramount Chief has more mana anyway.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
An interesting question about whether the courtesy title might survive scrunity under the BOR?
- Is it the product of govt action?
- Is it unlawful “disrimination” based on gender or marital status?
- Is it a limit prescribed by law?
- Is it justifiable in any event?
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Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
I think it’s Georgina Te Heuheu and Buggerlugs was wrong to recant.
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
There is a Heuheu on the list though isn’t there? What’s the relation?
[DPF: Brother in law]
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