Trans-Tasman on Cullen as SOE Chair

March 12th, 2009 at 4:45 pm by David Farrar

has some good advice for the Government in discussing the ACC funding issue:

Which may be why the Nats have gone coy on making the Chairman of Mighty River Power’s Board.

They also recall John Tamihere’s famous comment about Cullen’s ability to “cut a deal on a piece of legislation, he can change a single word in a piece of legislation without those other bastards [coalition partners] knowing about it, and it melts down everything they wanted.”

If it happens with coalition partners, imagine Cullen running an SOE under a National Govt.

That is a good reason, plus the angry horde of National Party members who would encircle the Beehive and try to burn it down if they appointed Cullen as an SOE Chair this year.

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43 Responses to “Trans-Tasman on Cullen as SOE Chair”

  1. pdm (842 comments) says:

    I doubt burning down the Beehive would worry the Nats too much. – unless they were inside.

    It is the lynch mobs that would come after the people who appointed Cullen that will stop them.

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  2. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,787 comments) says:

    Or any other damned year!

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  3. XChequer (350 comments) says:

    Please, please, please, St Johnny, come to your senses and publicly state that Cullen will not be in Government employ! This man, is not well. He needs help, the kind that involves experimental drugs not yet approved by the FDA as well as a long stay in a public facility (he is a man of the people after all, He wouldn’t appreciate it if we sent him private).

    On a less serious note, it would also be bad politics.

    XChequer
    http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/

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  4. Paul Marsden (983 comments) says:

    But the real question remains. Just what is (was?) the motivation behind John Key’s thinking in even allowing this preposterous idea to see the light of day, and allow himself to be the subject of public ridicule?

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  5. vibenna (305 comments) says:

    plus the angry horde … who would encircle the Beehive and try to burn it down

    DPF, I don’t think you and Cameron Slater constitute a horde. Not even with Rebaiter and D4J as camp followers.

    [DPF: You would be amazed at how many Nats are upset at even the thought]
    :-)

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  6. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    Put Cullen in charge of ACC – he said when he was in govt that levies could be reduced and also didn’t flag any issues with ACC funding prior to the election.

    Make him deliver on the lies he told NZ when he was finance minsiter – then we could sack him for failure to deliver on his own statements.

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  7. bwakile (757 comments) says:

    Mabe Key is just winding Cullen up.
    Will make the…..”never in a million years”….all the sweeter.
    Just ask Peters.

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  8. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    vibenna

    I’m not a National party supporter but I would join any protest to stop Dr. Muppet being appointed to anything more serious than a school cake stall. Actually I wouldn’t even trust him to keep his fingers out of the money raised from that. He would get all redistributional about it and start giving the money to anyone who said they think he did a good job selling cakes and should come back next year.

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  9. slijmbal (1,210 comments) says:

    I’m in favour of it if it’s an electric chair :)

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  10. andrei (2,499 comments) says:

    But the real question remains. Just what is (was?) the motivation behind John Key’s thinking in even allowing this preposterous idea to see the light of day, and allow himself to be the subject of public ridicule?

    Perhaps he is just setting himself up for whatever position he aspires to when the inevitable happens and he is no longer prime minister.

    I wonder what the future Sir John’s long term aspirations will turn out to be?

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  11. Lou (43 comments) says:

    Do we yet know if the government floated the Cullen balloon? or was it Cullen via Vernon who did it?

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  12. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    slijmbal

    Given the stories Wishart published about Cullen (which Cullen has not formally disputed) the Muppet would probably love the electric chair.

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  13. Brian Smaller (3,983 comments) says:

    I think that National would bleed a lot of support if they ever gave Cullen a job. You Nat researchers and so forth who read this blog better take that message back to your masters. John Key may be all an inclusive New Nat but that would be one hug too far.

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  14. vibenna (305 comments) says:

    I just think we don’t have that much talent in the country, and can’t afford to ignore the talent we do have.

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  15. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    vibenna

    And you think Cullen has talent ? He understands how to manipulate the law to his own advantage, how to stomp over 800 years of Westminster convention to save his party from being held accountable for stealing tax payers money – is this the type of person we want running an SOE ?

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  16. Fairfacts Media (371 comments) says:

    It is surprising to see that until Trans-Tasman came out, that no-one else has followed the stpry, especiually considering the outrage expressed last weekend.
    Even getting a denial or no comment might have been worth a follow up.
    But yes, John Key would piss off a lot of people, lose the Nats much support, if Cullen was offered a job.

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  17. peterwn (3,142 comments) says:

    I am a Nat supporter and I cannot understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over this. To me it seems good Machiavellian politics. Opening an embassy in Outer Mongolia with him as ambassidor would be just a tad too obvious.

    However I think it would be better to leave him in the House for now, and for John to get one of the new intake to understudy for Leader of the House so she or he can learn the tricks of the trade with Mike’s ‘assistance’.

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  18. slijmbal (1,210 comments) says:

    ribena sorry vibenna

    A talent for spending other peoples money and being a deceitful ideologically driven toad is a talent I would like to make sure we don’t use. Many criminals are skilfull but we don’t make them head of corrections (sorry bad example).

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  19. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    I will never forget Cullen’s response when challenged about retrospective validations covering 14 years, he was being challenged to explain what gave his govt the right to do that. His response: There is nowhere that it says we can’t.

    Well yes, that is correct. Correct becasue the conventions that are the foundation of our democracy state that the legislature should not act as the juduiciary but they can legally do so. Normally of course they would do so if it were essential and in the best interests of the country – not when it’s in their own best interest (covering their own asses) to do so.

    You know that when a govt starts to conflate the best interets of their own ability to govern with the best interests of the country that they have gone to far and it is time to remove them – which is exactly what happened last year.

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  20. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “[DPF: You would be amazed at how many Nats are upset at even the thought]”

    Good. Maybe they’re at last starting to understand what is important, and that we need to take our institutions back from the left, not hand them to them on a plate.

    The real issue though is why. Why would Key even think about this? Who is advising him? Why is there an apparent serious disconnect between Key and his advisors and a large part of the National Party?

    This isn’t the only time we’ve seen such political ineptitude.

    Something needs to be sorted somewhere.

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  21. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    I have the necessary equipment and tools ready.

    The thought of that smug little man, getting a sinecure at big dollars makes me want to vomit.

    Think JK needs to determine one way or another what HE is actually going to do.

    Cullen really needs to retire, not be put in charge of an oligopoly.

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  22. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    “Cullen’s ability to “cut a deal on a piece of legislation, he can change a single word in a piece of legislation without those other bastards [coalition partners] knowing about it, and it melts down everything they wanted.”

    Cullen sounds like a pretty shrewd and competent operator then, when you put it like that…?

    “the angry horde of National Party members who would encircle the Beehive and try to burn it down if they appointed Cullen”

    Ahhh right – political ideology. that’s why you wouldn’t hire him. Silly me!

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  23. Inventory2 (10,090 comments) says:

    I’m with Lou – Vernon Small was flying a kite for Cullen. I daresay Key’s inbox was full this week!

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  24. MajorBloodnok (361 comments) says:

    Is the SFO allowed to investigate the disappearance of billions, if it happens in the public sector? I’d like to see Cullen behind bars for his gross financial ineptitude over KiwiRail.

    That action alone should disqualify him from ever holding a single directorship.

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  25. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Ahhh right – political ideology. that’s why you wouldn’t hire him. Silly me!”

    If there was ever a reason to hold political ideology againsty anyone its been well met by the idiocy of leftism. Fucked up every country they’ve ever gained control of.

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  26. LUCY (359 comments) says:

    The man is totally incompetent.

    That should be enough of a reason to keep him out of being considered for any position in NZ regardless of politics.

    Let him follow his leader and go to the UN. That is the place for them they will fit in well with the members of the ‘security council’ and the rest of the idiots that make up that shameful organisation.

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  27. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    If Mighty River Power Board used bullshit instead of water to produce power Cullen would be the man.

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  28. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    To me it seems good Machiavellian politics

    peterwn – isn’t it time we moved on from Machiavellian politics, and on to what is best for NZ’s future?

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  29. Southern Raider (1,534 comments) says:

    I’ve spent the last 6 years on an Electorate executive committee working to get that prick out of Govt.

    If National follows through with this I’m resigning from the Party.

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  30. big bruv (13,210 comments) says:

    SR

    Write or email your nearest Nat MP, I have done so and received a reply that said “nothing is finalised as yet”, I get the impression the Nat’s are surprised at the level of protest they have received so far about this possible appointment.

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  31. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    “if they appointed Cullen as an SOE Chair this year”

    DPF, you’ve expressed your reasons for not appointing Cullen in the short term, but I cant grasp why you expect this would ever be palatable.
    His experience may be high – but you’d have to agree the Nat voters will have a long memory with Cullen. I dont believe 1 year will make much difference

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  32. Paul Marsden (983 comments) says:

    bb . If they are surprised at the level of protest, then they have already lost touch with the common people. In which case, they’re no better than the other arrogant lot.

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  33. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    DPF

    OK I’m thinking this is a piss take, a handy distraction. What’s going on ?

    Oh I know… John Key knows Cullen is going to be charged for misfeasance under the public finance act. JK’s playing the master stroke appearing to offer him a job knowing he’s going to be locked up. Perhaps he even plans to see Cullen dethroned from a rapidly declining entity one more time. This time with his ass dragged into court.

    Masterly, JK enhances his centralist appeal while his supporters quietly chuckle while grumbling to keep up appearances. Please please let it be true. Please tell me the VRWC is real as I’ve always thought it was just a big scary thing under the bed that Clark’s spin doctors devised when she was saying “I don’t blog” !

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  34. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    If most Kiwiblog posters represent the views of nationals support base it would appear John Key has decided to change his client base

    First you have the Maori party coalition. I can understand his strategy of leading Labour into the unfamiliar ground of what could be considered Maori bashing – but IMO I think he doesnt acknowledge the bucket was already full, and anything he tips in may only replace what tips out. (he must have forgotten the rush of support following Brashs O/S)

    However giving Cullen anything (other than a jail sentence) could be the straw that breaks the camels back – for many

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  35. John Ansell (861 comments) says:

    They should reverse this outrage.

    Imagine what an ad man could make of an economic manager who banned the best finance minister in New Zealand history, then promoted one of the worst.

    Even thinking of it was a betrayal. ACT will sure be hoping they follow through.

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  36. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    There is something crazy going on. I don’t think the politicians are running the country any more. It appears that Government has been taken over by a co-operative of National party fakes, wishy washy liberals too damn gutless and ideologically confused to have a point of view, and over paid PR men/women without any principles or heart felt ideas about politics.

    I reckon we need to get rid of all of these press secretaries, journalists and other devices that buffer these politicians from the public and get back to down to earth governance.

    The problem seems to be the isolation of the politicians from the people and a simultaneous manipulation of those politicians by a cabal of PR men/ woman more interested in poll figures than principle.

    We have a poisonous mix- the PR groups don’t believe in principle, and the politicians are too wishy washy to resist being manipulated.

    If the idea to give Kullen this position has come out of this sleazy alliance, then two things need to happen-

    1) The PR corp needs firing and,

    2) John Key and other senior Nats need a damn good arse kicking and to come back to earth. Wellington based journalists and shiny suited PR agents are not the public. They’re not the middle class who gave Key their support at the last election. They’re compromisers and wise arses and cynics with no real mission in politics other than self preservation.

    Have a read of this page and see what you reckon-

    http://www.michelleboag.co.nz/michelle-boag-blog/2008/12/17/pr-industry-contributes-to-ministerial-staffing-activity.html

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  37. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,810 comments) says:

    vibenna says on March 12th, 2009 at 5:41 pm:

    I just think we don’t have that much talent in the country, and can’t afford to ignore the talent we do have.

    And who is responsible for sending the limited talent New Zealand has overseas in the first place? Michael Cullen has been an economic disaster for New Zealand and shouldn’t be rewarded for his incompetence, EVER.

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  38. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,810 comments) says:

    It should also be noted that just because Michael Cullen has a small penis and can’t satisfy a woman doesn’t mean that John Key should throw some Tory charity his way.

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  39. Razork (375 comments) says:

    OECD; apparantly the small thing is actually a very big thing, but that’s a matter for another day.

    Anyway, as stated previously I’ll put up the first $5K in the fighting fund to stop Cullen becoming head of any SOE.

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  40. georgebolwing (602 comments) says:

    Jim Bolger was a supurb chair of cabinet and cabinet committees and has continued to use those skils after his retirement from Parliament.

    Michael Cullen has trouble chairing a meeting with himself. He is such a arrogant prick that any board he chaired would resign en masse within months of his appointment.

    So forget the politics: he is just unsuited to the role.

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  41. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    I think a few people would donate to an anti cullen fund.

    All those in favour please register your feelings on this post.

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  42. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    Frankly Cullen and anyone of the former government Ministers or MP should be on a black list of directors.

    Good grief we have enough problems with the failed cohort of those who would be directors or SOEs and public listed companies now.

    Most are either ignorant or the principles of good governance or know buit refuse to follow them

    One of the reasons our economies in the crapola

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  43. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Like I say above,

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/trans-tasman_on_cullen_as_soe_chair.html#comment-542887

    policy is being driven by politically unprincipled PR hacks.

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