TVNZ 6 and 7
March 20th, 2009 at 6:10 am by David FarrarVery pleased to see:
Broadcasting Minister Jonathan Coleman would like to see the Freeview channels TVNZ 6 and TVNZ 7 broadcast on Sky Television in the next couple of years.
Same. I am helping pay $78 million to TVNZ for those channels, and I ant to be able to watch them on my My Sky box. I do not want to have to buy a Freeview box also. It’s party a point of principle over the cost, but more a matter of convenience – I want one box which records the programmes I want. When looking at what is on in an evening, you don’t want to have to check two seperate sets of listings.
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March 20th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Here’s hoping that TVNZ announces a few job cuts relating to the rubbish presenters from the TVNZ7 stable.
I wonder whether TVNZ is going to box clever and/or Jonathan Coleman has put his foot down behind the scenes and given the CEO of TVNZ direction as to how the television station will change focus under a new National/ACT government.
It would be hilarious fun to see Russell Brown sacked for start.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Agreed. Another box is more clutter, and it means switching input source on both the TV and the Amp. While this is not overly difficult, i’d much prefer that all channels be available from the same input source.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 7:01 am
So how about a compromise – Put Prime on Freeview in return for putting TVNZ 6 & 7 on Sky! Is there some reason why this sort of deal would never fly?
[DPF: Oh I agree free to air channels should be made available on all platfirms]
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 7:28 am
TVNZ and Sky haven’t “made nice” since their bust up when TVNZ first proposed a digital platform(The plans for which fell through at the time).
That’s why rugby went to TV3 remember.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 7:54 am
this is great news. I didnt want to have to get another console
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Hang on… why should the taxpayer be subsidising SkyTV by providing TVNZ 6/7 to the pay-TV operator?
SkyTV already has too much of a strangle-hold on the PayTV market and we ought not be using taxpayer funds to prop it up any more than is the case so far.
Yes, taxpayer funds really are flooding into Sky TV.
Just drive around the poorest parts of town where WFF and other benefits flow like water… do you see all those Sky dishes on the roofs?
If someone’s on a benefit and they have SkyTV then the taxpayer is effectively paying for or subsidising that monthly payment. Weren’t benefits supposed to be a safety-net rather than a PayTV trampoline?
Certain segments of our society moan and which about the poverty levels in NZ but are you really impoverished if you can afford to spend at least $50/month on a PayTV subscription?
No, state-owned TV ought not be a “gift” to a monopoly PayTV operator — that sucks.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Werg and David have the basis of a good idea but lack ambition – surely we want to head towards a delivery system neutral system – the separation of content and delivery and therefore the ability to receive free all free to air channels through sky, freeview, telstra cable and internet and whatever other systems appear in the future – and then have a method of charging for add ons. One box, integrated charging system. Some of the changeover financed by the resale of the outdated analogue bandwidth. This was one of several important issues central to the digital review that I was organising when broadcasting minister but Coleman scrapped. There isn’t much party politics in it – but massive vested interests – and it needs some real focus. Pity that that focus has been lost.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I’m probably at odds with many Greens on this DPF, but I agree with you.
aardvark, you might have a point if free to air didn’t offer so much rubbish programming. But if a family really wants their kids to grow up with quality television that expands their minds and informs them about the world, PayTV is the only way to go, whatever the family’s income level. The regular diet of trashy American so-called comedies and reality shows that we get on free to air, by contrast, is likely to turn them into mindless zombies.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Yeah Trevor and I want world peace and a blowjob every morning but it simply aint going to happen so lets focus on what is possible.
“One box, integrated charging system”: – how central planning & command economy
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Come on Toad… do you really think that the kids in low-income homes on benefits who have SkyTV spend time watching Discovery or the History channel?
Hell no… it’s the sport channels that get thrashed, and maybe a movie channel or two if there’s a suitably violent or sexy film screening.
It may be PC to suggest otherwise but let’s get real about this.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:35 am
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:47 am
TVNZ have more than 2 channels?
When did that happen???
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Amen to that. Pay TV doesn’t necessarily fix that either. I’m probably quite pro-US.. but even I can’t watch pro-US propaganda in the so-called History channel. Oooo look! Another war. More battles. More spies. Yawn.
Having more and more channels seems to be lowering the overall quality of the content such that little reaches my interest threshold any more.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:54 am
What a bloody stupid idea, if TVNZ & TV3 had the ball’s they should pull their feeds to Murdoch / Sky.
Freeview is a bloody great platform, for a start it’s free (once you either have a decoder or have a screen with built in decoder), the picture & sound quality (of the UHF HD) are off the scale.
The sooner that people click on to the premise that SKY aint all that it’s chopped up to be, the better.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:56 am
“that I was organising when broadcasting minister but Coleman scrapped”
Jeez Trevor – you seem to be a wealth of good ideas now – “would’ve – could’ve – should’ve” ………..but you achieve pretty much fuck all in the 9 years you had ?
You lucky another masterpiece of yours – The EFA has been scapped otherwise you’d have to put authorisation statements on your comments
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Just sell off TVNZ & the new owners can tell Sky politely but firmly where they can put their request for 6/7 on their boxes, rather than allowing the government to subsidise a business which is already effectively taxing a large portion of NZ $70 a month to watch Rugby.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Incidentally I would like to see some costs one day for what it would cost to merge TV One with Radio NZ to be a BBC style broadcaster with no or few ads, and TV2 sold off as a fully commercial broadcaster.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 9:21 am
What? Does the world really need another Al Jezeera subsidiary?
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I want I want I want.
And because you want, you seem to think you should be able to dictate to a private enterprise how they run their buisiness. What happened to your free eneterprise beliefs? Why should Sky carry freeview if they don’t want to, or why, in fact, should Freeview be forced to allow Sky to carry their signals?
I want Sky, but I already have a freeview box, why can’t I get Sky on that?
And why would you want freeview on Sky when Sky HD is not full HD?
[DPF: It is simple. I pay for TVNZ 6 and 7 through my taxes. Sky TV has offered to broadcast them for free during their My Sky box. TVNZ is refusing which means I am unable to watch the TV shows I have paid for, in the manner I wish to. I am forced to not only pay more for programmes I have already paid for, but to surrender the simplicity of one device.]
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Labour are truely irrelevant as evidenced by jack.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Farrar has a point.
A true public broadcaster, be a great way to ditch the lesbo marxist systerhood as well.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 10:10 am
What have the Topp Twins ever done to you?
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 10:26 am
farrar says “TVNZ is refusing which means I am unable to watch the TV shows I have paid for, in the manner I wish to.”
Which STILL doesn’t explain why he thinks HE should dictate to one company how they should run their business. TVNZ is an SOE and farrar argues SOE’s should be run like businesses, which means they get to decide what they will do.
There are many things in this life you don’t get to choose David. Its not all about you.
For example, I don’t want Sky’s base package, it is crap. I Do want Juice, 63, Rialto, Discovery, Geographic And Sport 2 and am willing to pay for these and these alone. Will Sky sell me that? Hell no. What can I do? Hold my breath and stamp my gay little foot until they change their minds?
[DPF: AGain you miss the point. Parts of TVNZ are commercial and their decisions there should be commercial. But TVNZ6 and 7 are not commercial - they are fully funded by taxpayers and yes that gives us a say. I have no desire to have a say in what Sky does, except that they do bloody well kepping me happy as a customer]
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Jack, we (I speak precipitously but confidentally) don’t give a fat rats whether your foot is ‘gay’ or ‘little’ – now fuck off with your presumtuous homo-socialist centric political focus.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 10:58 am
>>Incidentally I would like to see some costs one day for what it would cost to merge TV One with Radio NZ to be a BBC style broadcaster with no or few ads
Come on DPF,
That’s a bit of an outdated idea now isn’t it?
That’s what 6 and 7 are for. Why can’t both One and Two be sold as commercial operations? hopefully seperately
BTW did anyone see Media 7 last night? 1 socialist presenter and 3 socialist panelist all arguing against Coleman. Could they even attempt to appear slightly fair?
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
expat, gay is a very old, very useful part of the English language. The fact that you seem to get homoerotic about it does not change its value or utility. gay is a word I will use with gay abandon whilst enjoying some of the gayest days of my life. ANd if the poofters don’t like it, tough toenails. its our word, not theirs.
Vote:March 20th, 2009 at 11:25 am
DPF – TVNZ is deliberately designed to make such a split difficult, both would require new buildings as the existing one can only be justified with two channels & that is without even getting into staff roles etc.
Vote:Personally I think it’s a wasted effort, sell off 1/2 & leave Maori as the govt owned channel with NZ Onair funding continuing as now.
March 20th, 2009 at 11:56 am
[DPF: AGain you miss the point. Parts of TVNZ are commercial and their decisions there should be commercial. But TVNZ6 and 7 are not commercial - they are fully funded by taxpayers and yes that gives us a say. I have no desire to have a say in what Sky does, except that they do bloody well kepping me happy as a customer]
As far as I know, TVNZ 6 and 7 are not entirely funded by the taxpayer – a third of the running costs are paid by TVNZ out of the advertising revenue generated by 1 and 2. This does not include the cost of product made for the free-to-air channels and is re-run or repackaged on 6 and 7. The Government funding runs out in 2012, and at that point its likely that TVNZ will have to pick up the remaining 2/3rds.
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