Dirty Tricks in Mt Albert?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:28 am by David FarrarThe Herald reports:
Mt Albert resident Jim Li, from China, said he had received a call on Sunday from a Labour official asking him to “book” a time to be taken to the voting centre this week.
“I said I wanted to wait until June 13, but he told me that it is safer to vote now, because I will be breaking the law if I missed voting on polling day. I agreed, because I didn’t want to become a criminal,” said Mr Li in Mandarin.
One day I should do a post on Labour’s dirty tricks in Onehunga and other Auckland seats when we had FPP. Non residents were enrolled, fake enrolments, dozens enrolled at same address, multiple voting etc. One advanatage of MMP is it has redueced the incentive for voter fraud, as winning an individual seat is not so important now and nationwide a few hundred votes has little significance.
Related posts:
- Ralston on dirty tricks
- Labour’s problem with Mt Albert
- Canadian Dirty Tricks
- The numbers in Mt Albert
May 28th, 2009 at 8:34 am
“Green co-leader and candidate Russel Norman said offering transport to voters was “a good idea”.”
what wrong with public transport Russel????
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 8:50 am
The absolute worst would be if any party proliferated the incorrect idea that your vote is not a secret, such as a few of the Asian residents of Botany were reported as thinking last election.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Selective quoting of the article to imply that only Labour are guilty of this aye Dave, when the following sentence was in the article:
National candidate Melissa Lee’s campaign spokesperson said she did not wish to comment.
[DPF: The issue for me is not offering assistance to the polls which is normal. It is the accusation that Labour told someone it is illegal not to vote. No one else is accused of that, so not at all selective]
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Just the Green party, trying so hard to increase their carbon footprint. I thought they were against this.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Maybe that’s for the best.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Rebel Heart – why should she comment? The allegations have been made against her main opponent’s party; they are damning enough on their own.
And isn’t this exactly what was reported prior to the last General Election? I posted this on 5 November last year, and the similarities are startling!
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/11/2005-revisted-labours-tactics-revealed.html
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Why should this surprise anybody, the book I am reading at the moment details the long history between the American underworld (mostly Mafia) and their links with the Democratic party.
Left wing politics has always been corrupt.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Vote early and vote often, isn’t that the mantra? The only question I have about the post is at what stage – according to the Herald – does “Mt Albert resident Jim Li” stop coming from China and simply become a Mt Albert resident?
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Damn good question bearhunter. I would guess Li doesn’t know either!
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:28 am
That was a misquote Stephen, it should have been “National suporters of Melissa Lee’s campaign said they did not wish her to comment.”
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Zing
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Very good Murray – and very true
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:34 am
I stopped reading when it said “the Hearld reports”
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Tuija – I read it because I found it extremely unusual for the herald to report anything dodgy from the left. – particularly as they didnt use the opportunity to put the boot into Melissa Lee
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Making your excuses already David, just how bad to you think Mel is going to do, 3rd?
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Typical left, ball less wonders. It always amazes me that many on the left believe they are God’s gift to good governance and justice but when it boils down to it are afraid that their brilliant ideas are not enough to sway the masses, so they have to resort to trickery, bribery and downright corrupt practice to gain office. These people give me the shits.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Not surprising reading Mallard and Hobbs commenting on Fitzsimmons departure.
http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2009/05/27/haere-ra-jeanette/comment-page-1/#comment-836
Mallard observes; “honesty and integrity” that is “not that common in this place.”
whilst Hobbs states; “but we never, she never did, and i hope i never did, played the personal attack game”
unsurprisingly Labour and the Greens accept personal attacks as common place and so devoid of any honesty and integrity they make special mention when they find some in one of their colleagues
“just how bad to you think Mel is going to do, 3rd?”
just how well do you think the lefts campaign against her has gone Sonic?
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 10:35 am
So many rubish bins to dive into, so little campaign time.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 10:42 am
That “the left” thing again eh Patrick. A group thats seems to include the Labour party, the Green, the Press, all government workers, all TV stations and reporters, and anyone else who does not buy into your far-right quackery (about 95% of the population judging on the vote ACT and the Libz get)
As for the campaign against Mel, I’d say John Key and his chums have been doing that far better than your mythical all powerful “left” All we have had to did is sit back and watch.
After Political denial stage two (blame the press) comes Political denial stage three, “it was dirty tricks, we was robbed”!
Patrick it is usual to await the actual ballot before branding it fraudulent. Unless that is you already know you are about to get hosed.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am
The anatomy of a Kiwiblog comments section:
Original Post: Someone did something of note.
Poster 1: This is typical of the left.
Poster 2: The right do this as well.
Poster 3: Yeah, well, look what else the left does: irrelevant point A, B and C
Poster 4: Yeah, well the right did irrelevant point D, E and F.
Poster 5: Lol@Poster 3! Right on!
Poster 6: Something about pinko commie leftist scum
…and the original post is never referred to again.
Regarding the actual issue, shame on the Labour official for lying (or shame on the National supporter ringing up pretending to be a Labour official in the hope that news like this would break). Politics is dirty all over and the fact is the more the media indulges in the petty minutae of gossipy “they did this” bullshit, the less the public will actually get to hear about what the candidates/parties actually thinl/believe.
At the moment, I’d vote for the first person to stand up and say, this is bullshit, the official was wrong to do this, they are fired, forget about that crap and listen to what I envisage for [insert location here].
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 11:11 am
“As for the campaign against Mel, I’d say John Key and his chums have been doing that far better than your mythical all powerful “left””
well I’d partially agree with you on that. Whilst she’s been careless I dont think he’s done her any favours at all. Certainly not ‘better’ as you’ve claimed, but certainly no favours
You cant deny though that Lees naive ‘South Auckland/ motorway’ comment, and subsequent apology does not warrant in excess of 300 MSM headlines over 2 weeks?
Vote:Considering Shearer only got 1 headline over his careless ‘Immigrant criminal’ comment
May 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
There was hardly any comment about Russell Norman advocating civil disobedience (breaking the law) at the same meeting . I have heard he put this to practice on the harbour bridge last Sunday.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Normal ‘dirty hippy’ thing innit?
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
For those in Mt Albert who want to vote for an MP from a party that is not prepared to buy your vote with you money read what John will do for Mt Albert.
http://www.act.org.nz/files/John%20Boscawen%20flyer.pdf
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Poor Patrick, if only the Media would stop reporting what his candidate says she might have a chance.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Poster 7: Transmogrifier despairs at the intellectual wasteland he finds himself in
Poster 8: takes the piss and posts an emoticon
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
“if only the Media would stop reporting what his candidate says”
I have no problem with the media reporting it – but I have a problem with a left wing inspired media sensationalising the actions of one candidate over another
P.S she’s not my candidate. This is a question of fair treatment – which I don’t believe she has received.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
The “left-wing inspired media”
There you go again Patrick, I’ll need to get a new filing cabinet at this rate!
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
gg – that is taking the piss? You really must try harder.
But you’re right, it is a bit of a wasteland around here at times.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
sonic, do you care to explain why,
Vote:=Lee gets 300+ negative headlines for a 1 questionable comment followed by 1 apology
=Shearer get 1 negative headline for an equally questionable comment and no apology
=Norman gets 0 negative headlines for an equally questionable comment and an apology to Shearer over his ‘grey man’ comments
like there has to be a logical reason Sonic can offer over this gross imbalance of media reporting?
I cant wait to hear it?
May 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Patrick I would suggest there are two possible reasons.
1. lee’s comments were not merely questionable, they were nutty, even her own leader called them stupid. Shearer’s stuff was not in the same league (despite the right blogosphere trying to them up)
2. All reporters and all owners of all media outlets are part of a vast communist conspiracy with the aim of doing down the National party and in the long run recreating Pol Pot’s Cambodia here is Aotearoa.
Which do you think is the more Likely?
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
If one looks on the bright side Melissa Lee is getting quoted as is John Boscauwen.
I haven’t seen much if anything from either David Shearer or Russell Norman apart from election pamphlets that i give to my sons to destroy.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I actually like
#3. All candidates spoke the truth, and none of the comments were offensive however all of the comments could be considered unnecessary. The majority of the media are left wing, and don’t want Lee to win the seat as evident by the gross sensationalising of only her comments. The reporting of the smear campaign of Lees NZonAir funding is testament to that.
Key’s knee jerk reaction was expected, as he still believes the MSM reporting represents public opinion.
(gee Sonic, I didnt think the owners of all media outlets influence the reporting – but you do you think its got that bad?)
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
“The majority of the media are left wing,”
Do you ever actually read the media without your ideological blinkers on Patrick, mind you as anyone to the left of Rodney Hyde qualifies as a dangerous communist in your head, perhaps you have a point!
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
One man’s smear campaign is another’s ‘journalists just doing their job’.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I suspect that the majority of media-producers in New Zealand are what passes for left-wing here.
They are overwhelmingly socially liberal, for a start.
They are overwhelmingly university-educated, which is an indicator for left-wing tendencies.
They are often initially drawn to journalism and television by a desire to pursue artistic tendencies – also an indicator for left-wing tendencies.
In New Zealand, those things roughly line up with Greens/Labour, rather than National. Not that there aren’t socially liberal university-educated artistic National supporters – I’m talking very broad generalisations here.
I think what is being questioned here is not necessarily the leaning of people in the media, but rather their journalistic integrity – or perhaps whether or not that kind of “objectivity” is even possible.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Of course, that too is within a spectrum. I remember the vast disparity between the “walk out of school” youth march for ending youth rates that I saw and the way it was portrayed in the mainstream media.
The best was when the TV cameraman put his camera down on the ground so kids who were previously walking calmly down the footpath had an opportunity to jump over it, providing footage that made the whole thing look like a mad stampede of wild teenagers.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
“Do you ever actually read the media without your ideological blinkers on Patrick,”
Sonic. I’m sure you read and listen to the media with perfect agreement and of course would never notice any bias.– why is that Sonic? ……..because perhaps you have the same beliefs and think the same ?
………. has the penny dropped for you yet Sonic? …
…………has the light come on?………..(or do I need to remind you that you are an extreme leftie)
I think I’ve found your thought process http://www.tophatprod.com/store/images/P/ABC40-1006.JPG
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
No Patrick, I understand that the media is a vert diverse group, and includes ranting nutty right-wing talkback presenters as well as the odd liberal.
The myth of the Liberal media has been a US republican talking point since Nixon, and look where it has got them now.
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The myth of the Liberal media has been a US republican talking point since Nixon,”"
Its no myth. Study after study has shown it to be a fact.
“änd look where it has got them now.”
To the point where more and more people are awakening to the left wing totalitarianism that has destroyed our societies and our universities and our governments and our democracies?
Yep, good ain’t it?
Vote:May 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
David I also believe it is highly irregular for Labour Party supporters to be telling voters it is illegal not to vote.
I have lodged a formal complaint with the Chief Returning Officer.
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