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In the sadness of the Napier shootings, one can onoly find some light in the text message Lenny Holmwood sent a friend:
“Jan busted. 3 cops shot. Me leg. Can you feed Scrappy.”
Scrappy is his cat. There is something about Kiwis and our pets. I think more people were concerned about Fi the Police Dog, than whether Molenaar lived or not.Mind you Fi didn’t shoot three cops!
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Tags: Jan Molenaar, Lenny Holmwood, Napier, Police
May 11th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Actually David i think a lot of people did care wheather Molnaar lived.
They were very much against it.
May 11th, 2009 at 9:54 am
It’s been said and it needs to be said again – the police response to the whole situation was bullshit. If this was any other country they’d have stormed in on the first day.
May 11th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Rebel Heart – considering the place was booby-trapped it would be pretty stupid to just `storm in’.
I liked an American response to a similar scenario I read about a week ago. Man locked up in his house firing at the police, police fires a grenade launcher at the house, man dies.
May 11th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Yeah, that sounds good. I guess basically I’m just saying, if it was any other country they wouldn’t have fucked around for so long and just killed the motherfucker instead of being considerate about taking him in alive, whether by grenade launcher or rocket launcher or tank etc.
May 11th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Here we go round 12 from the Hindsight Heroes …
I have read several times statements similar to ” if it was any other country they wouldn’t have f##ked around for so long and just killed the motherf##cker” I’m still waiting for some actual examples of this to be posted.
May 11th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Wearing my devil’s advocate hat, it should be noted that Molenaar didn’t shoot the police dog, although he had the means and the opportunity. Fi defied foe’s guns.
May 11th, 2009 at 10:26 am
“Fi defied foe’s guns.”
Classic!
May 11th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Someone coined the phrase “Keyboard Commandos” earlier in regard to the Napier incident.
Sums it up nicely
The correct result was gained for goodness sake.
No on going costs to the taxpayer, what more could we ask for?
May 11th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Rebel Heart – and blow up half of Napier as well?
May 11th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Rebel Heart, I can’t help wondering whether, if he were still alive, and the perp had been someone else, whether Molenaar might have agreed with you. Your thinking sounds remarkably like his.
There are way too many would-be Rambos around, and I hope there are not too many of them in the police.
May 11th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Excatly peterwn – I heard it reported somewhere that there were enough explosives in Molenaars house to take out anything within 400m. I stood at my gate this morning, and tried to count the number of homes within a 400m radius, but gave up once I had got past 50.
May 11th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Chinese whispers IV2, a mate whose is ex army reckoned that if Molenaar was in possession of something other than an industrial bang like power-gel, although enough of it would do the job, like military munitions or specialised demolition explosives then there was a real risk of a catastrophic detonation.
May 11th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I do find it annoying people saying the coppers responded badly as we still have little idea of the situation, I guess they didn’t want to aggravate him knowing he had explosives but not knowing what types and the quantity’s involved. To have enough HE too level everything in 400m, half a Km basically, is …. optimistic in my semi educated opinion.
Remember those houses in Napier are built on a fault line, on a hill that is prone to land slides, not a flat piece of land with brick houses.
May 11th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
And while we’re talking about things that go bang, Exploding Blog!
May 11th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Rebel Heart plese define your intel sources for making your charge in now check later decision.
Ouija board, commando comic or did you just pluck it out of your ass?
And how many dead cops would you regard as a good exchange for your accelerated timetable.
Napier, not bloody jo/berg pal.
May 11th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Everything within 400m? He would have to have a few caissons of artillery rounds in there. His booby traps were door handles wired to the mains and some barbed wire. Cutting off the power would have nullified the door handle traps.
May 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I’m getting a little bit tired of the so called experts starting to weigh in on how the police allowed this to go on for so long.
It was a textbook operation. Contain, control and wait. I’d hate to be a cop. If they go straight in and shoot the guy, they are trigger happy gun nuts who are a biger danger to the public than the criminals. If they contain the situation and show commendable restraint, then they are incompetent keystone cops who cannot take any positive action.
Having a friend as a member of the Police STG, I can tell you that the last thing any of these police ever want to do is to take a life, or to be placed in a position where taking a life is the best, or sometimes the only, way out.
May 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
What he said.
May 11th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
“Jan busted. 3 cops shot. Me leg. Can you feed Scrappy.”
the casual nature of the text and the words “Jan busted” speak volumes in regard the character of the man.
drug using buddy.
May 11th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Razork 2.58pm
“speak volumes in regard the character of the man. drug using buddy.”
So whats your point ? Maybe the casual nature of his text was due to the fact that he just been shot and didn’t have time to write a novel!
May 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Jan busted, like it’s a normal every day thing.