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By: Razork

Razork — Mon, 11 May 2009 06:40:15 +0000

Jan busted, like it’s a normal every day thing.

By: voice of reason

voice of reason — Mon, 11 May 2009 03:40:24 +0000

Razork 2.58pm
“speak volumes in regard the character of the man. drug using buddy.”

So whats your point ? Maybe the casual nature of his text was due to the fact that he just been shot and didn’t have time to write a novel!

By: Razork

Razork — Mon, 11 May 2009 02:58:33 +0000

“Jan busted. 3 cops shot. Me leg. Can you feed Scrappy.”

the casual nature of the text and the words “Jan busted” speak volumes in regard the character of the man.
drug using buddy.

By: Murray

Murray — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:35:04 +0000

What he said.

By: Right of way is Way of Right

Right of way is Way of Right — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:29:08 +0000

I’m getting a little bit tired of the so called experts starting to weigh in on how the police allowed this to go on for so long.

It was a textbook operation. Contain, control and wait. I’d hate to be a cop. If they go straight in and shoot the guy, they are trigger happy gun nuts who are a biger danger to the public than the criminals. If they contain the situation and show commendable restraint, then they are incompetent keystone cops who cannot take any positive action.

Having a friend as a member of the Police STG, I can tell you that the last thing any of these police ever want to do is to take a life, or to be placed in a position where taking a life is the best, or sometimes the only, way out.

By: Brian Smaller

Brian Smaller — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:28:16 +0000

Everything within 400m? He would have to have a few caissons of artillery rounds in there. His booby traps were door handles wired to the mains and some barbed wire. Cutting off the power would have nullified the door handle traps.

By: Murray

Murray — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:09:58 +0000

Rebel Heart plese define your intel sources for making your charge in now check later decision.

Ouija board, commando comic or did you just pluck it out of your ass?

And how many dead cops would you regard as a good exchange for your accelerated timetable.

Napier, not bloody jo/berg pal.

By: cha

cha — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:04:11 +0000

And while we're talking about things that go bang, Exploding Blog!

By: Banana Llama

Banana Llama — Sun, 10 May 2009 23:56:27 +0000

I do find it annoying people saying the coppers responded badly as we still have little idea of the situation, I guess they didn’t want to aggravate him knowing he had explosives but not knowing what types and the quantity’s involved. To have enough HE too level everything in 400m, half a Km basically, is …. optimistic in my semi educated opinion.
Remember those houses in Napier are built on a fault line, on a hill that is prone to land slides, not a flat piece of land with brick houses.

By: cha

cha — Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:47 +0000

Chinese whispers IV2, a mate whose is ex army reckoned that if Molenaar was in possession of something other than an industrial bang like power-gel, although enough of it would do the job, like military munitions or specialised demolition explosives then there was a real risk of a catastrophic detonation.

By: Inventory2

Inventory2 — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:46:46 +0000

Excatly peterwn – I heard it reported somewhere that there were enough explosives in Molenaars house to take out anything within 400m. I stood at my gate this morning, and tried to count the number of homes within a 400m radius, but gave up once I had got past 50.

By: bharmer

bharmer — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:45:00 +0000

Rebel Heart, I can’t help wondering whether, if he were still alive, and the perp had been someone else, whether Molenaar might have agreed with you. Your thinking sounds remarkably like his.

There are way too many would-be Rambos around, and I hope there are not too many of them in the police.

By: peterwn

peterwn — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:27:20 +0000

Rebel Heart – and blow up half of Napier as well?

By: lofty

lofty — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:26:57 +0000

Someone coined the phrase “Keyboard Commandos” earlier in regard to the Napier incident.
Sums it up nicely
The correct result was gained for goodness sake.
No on going costs to the taxpayer, what more could we ask for?

By: KiwiGreg

KiwiGreg — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:26:30 +0000

“Fi defied foe’s guns.”

Classic!

By: Will de Cleene

Will de Cleene — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:17:29 +0000

Wearing my devil’s advocate hat, it should be noted that Molenaar didn’t shoot the police dog, although he had the means and the opportunity. Fi defied foe’s guns.

By: voice of reason

voice of reason — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:10:17 +0000

Here we go round 12 from the Hindsight Heroes …
I have read several times statements similar to ” if it was any other country they wouldn’t have f##ked around for so long and just killed the motherf##cker” I’m still waiting for some actual examples of this to be posted.

By: Rebel Heart

Rebel Heart — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:01:34 +0000

Yeah, that sounds good. I guess basically I’m just saying, if it was any other country they wouldn’t have fucked around for so long and just killed the motherfucker instead of being considerate about taking him in alive, whether by grenade launcher or rocket launcher or tank etc.

By: EverlastingFire

EverlastingFire — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:00:28 +0000

Rebel Heart – considering the place was booby-trapped it would be pretty stupid to just `storm in’.

I liked an American response to a similar scenario I read about a week ago. Man locked up in his house firing at the police, police fires a grenade launcher at the house, man dies.

By: Rebel Heart

Rebel Heart — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:54:10 +0000

It’s been said and it needs to be said again – the police response to the whole situation was bullshit. If this was any other country they’d have stormed in on the first day.