Shameful behaviour
May 26th, 2009 at 8:58 am by David FarrarWe are seeing the nasty side of certain people come out in the by-election at student hosted meetings. The Herald reports on the Unitec meeting:
Act candidate John Boscawen was accosted with a chocolate and cream lamington as a Mt Albert byelection debate yesterday descended into farce.
Malcolm France, a candidate for People Before Profit, attacked Mr Boscawen with the cake as a protest against the Super City.
That’s just pathethic – and even more so that it was done by another candidate. France should be banned from all future MTC meetings.
The blunder-prone National candidate Melissa Lee also came under fire. She faced questions over an email in which she was alleged to have said she wanted “a big diamond ring … to knock some sense into the media (although a gun is tempting)”.
The email was a response to a question posed by a magazine, which asked: “Which accessory would you choose: a gun, a fur coat, a big diamond ring or a grill?” Ms Lee said the email was written by a volunteer staff member who wanted to add some humour.
How that made the TV news last night, I don’t know.
In response to a question about what she would do if she wasn’t in politics, the mainly Polynesian group shouted that she would be “on a plane back to Korea” and she could “become the racist relations commissioner”.
I think this shows very clearly who the true racists are.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:00 am
And France gets the fuckwit hippie free pass instead of charged with assault like he should have been.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Video here-
Vote:http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/Lamington-attack-interrupts-todays-Mt-Albert-debate-/tabid/370/articleID/105752/cat/772/Default.aspx
May 26th, 2009 at 9:06 am
NZ descends into the usual lame one sided race relations argument that has been going on for the lst 20 years.
Brown = oppressed and needing more cash.
Everyone else = oppressors who need to get the cheque book out.
Newsflash: NZ isnt bi-cultural anymore. It is multicultural and special treatment for the greater Polynesian bloc doesnt wash any more.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Murray – very true. But they would have had to charge the fella who threw it back at him too. That’s equally assault.
DPF – I disagree that the Lee blunder was not news. While it may have been a non-story on its own, this compounded with her other moments where she shows lack of judgment, are important to report. People need to know if she doesn’t have sound judgment.
[DPF: What blunder? This was a humourous response to a humourous student questionairre. It is outrageous that was treated as a TV story. ]
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Agree totally Murray. Imagine the outrage from the left if someone had done this to Helen Klark. This loser is a bolshevik coward trying to destroy democracy and replace it with communist totalitarianism.
He is typical of the kind of left wing thug who has tried for so long and with remarkable success to shut down discussion outside of the parameters the left consider acceptable.
If anyone speaks words they don’t agree with about ideas they consider wrong, the immediate reaction is ridicule, shouting them down, lies and slander against them, or as in this case, physical attacks.
Malcolm Francis says this -
“I don’t care about parliamentary democracy-”
..and he doesn’t. All he cares about is mocking and disparaging and ridiculing anyone with different ideas to his own.
When one sees jack booted thugs bayoneting dissenters on to trains to gulags, and dragging them off to concentration camps, and suffocating them with plastic bags as in the killing fields of Cambodia, and one asks where do such inhuman acts stem from, they stem from the mind of the likes of those whose thinking is epitomised by Malcolm Francis. Imagine what this yellow backed scum would do if he had the power.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I was at the Unitec meeting… Despite the People Before Profit guy diverting attention from what was being discussed I think John was grateful for the lamington because it gave him his two seconds of media attention (he later mentioned as we went canvassing that “if 500,000 people are going to see it on the news” any publicity is good publicity)… Also, as with the AUSA debate, it’s stupid to blame the fact that the meeting was organised by ‘students’ because it was actually a very good debate where every candidate was good natured towards one another and respected each other’s speaking time. You get assholes who like to shout ‘privatisation’ and ‘racist’ at every political meeting – the students were actually incredibly attentive and there were very few interjections. Again, big ups to the student president who dealt with the interjecters by telling them to shut the fuck up and give every party a chance to speak.
I knew though as I came home and logged into the Herald website that they’d somehow try to spin it as a ‘disruptive’ or ‘shambolic’ meeting when it was probably the most well-mannered one I’ve been to since the campaign started.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:14 am
“And France gets the fuckwit hippie free pass instead of charged with assault like he should have been”
Yes charge him and further clog up the courts !! Attack ??, Assault ? dont be absurd, it was a lamington for christs sake. France is an obvious pillock, but Boscowan could have turned it back on him with a quick quip like – “I see the loonies want me to have my cake as well as eating it”
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:15 am
It is good that Rebel Heart knows what others are grateful for without asking them.
Sounds like the last Labour government.
Only they were increasingly wrong, reflected by the landslide of voters kicking them out.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:17 am
One thing that has always amazed me about the left is that they are always calling for dialogue.
But when they get it they always shout over the top of the people they are dialoging with – or in this case squishing lamingtons on their heads.
They truly are people of little brains
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:17 am
“dont be absurd,”
It is not absurd, and it is ignorant weak minded easily manipulated fools like you who have stood by while the left have gradually over the last few decades made it almost socially unacceptable and on a par with child abuse to utter words that do not conform to the narrow spectrum of political ideas they approve of.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am
RainbowGlobalWarming said: It is good that Rebel Heart knows what others are grateful for without asking them.
You’re right, because I didn’t ask him – John was the one who offered that information when speaking his mind as he reflected on the debate while I went door knocking with him all afternoon. And he’s correct – otherwise without the lamington there would be absolutely no way he would have gotten on the news at all. The “I think” in my paragraph was rhetorical – he took it in good nature and saw it as a minor inconvenience and distraction from his speech on the Waterview Connection (however it is doubtful the news channel would have reported on that anyway) – unlike dickheads like you who think the incident was outrageous.
Seriously, if this happened to Helen Clark, as someone mentioned above, you’d be calling her out for not being able to take a joke.
[DPF: I'd be appalled if anyone did that to Clark. And when someone last threw something at a Labour MP at a public meeting, I tried to apprehend them]
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Absolutly true NOt.
He gets to argue mitigation when considering sentence thoguh. If politicians and wannabe ploiticians can’t even appear in public without assulting eachother then they should move to Taiwan.
Give it some thought Trevor.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:23 am
“Absolutly true NOt. He gets to argue mitigation when considering sentence thoguh.” Well he can certainly try and alledge there were mitigating circumstances but I doubt any judge would buy them. What would they be anyway, retribution? Don’t see that flying some how.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
“Seriously, if this happened to Helen Clark, as someone mentioned above, you’d be calling her out for not being able to take a joke.”
How about you just speak for yourself? As if you’ve ever been anyone who cared a damn for freedom of political expression.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
“the mainly Polynesian group shouted that she would be “on a plane back to Korea”
Piss off back to the Islands you overwieght leeches to our health system.
Koreans contribute much more to NZ than you lot do.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:26 am
As if you’ve ever been anyone who cared a damn for freedom of political expression.
What’s this bullshit strawman argument you’re trying to put across Redbaiter? Dumbass.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:26 am
lamington terrorist LOL!
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Rebel Heart (really, did you watch Highlander too many times as a child?)
As you may note I did not make any reference to Boscawen.
I was referring to your pompous wittering.
You seem intent on telling other people what they think.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
“the mainly Polynesian group shouted that she would be “on a plane back to Korea”
The Nats reap what they sow. Too gormless to see the left’s “passion” for multiculturalism for the fraud it is, they pander to it, and now learn a lesson that was obvious to anybody with a brain years ago.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Provication is a common mitigating factor. The argument would be that there would have been no retaliation without the unprovoked primary attack.
Either way its pretty much an example of why people have as much respect for our politicians as they do. Bugger all.
Hand cuff the idiots together and make them pick up rubbish on the side of SH1 as far as I’m concerned.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
RainbowGlobalWarming: You sarcastically wrote that I knew what others are grateful for without asking them in response to my sentence “I think John was grateful for the lamington because it gave him his two seconds of media attention”. I responded by saying that it was simply what John was saying and that the “I think” was a rhetorical statement, as in “I think he’s smarter than he lets on”.
Anyway, can’t stay here and debate any longer – off to do leaflet dropping in Mt Albert.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Koreans contribute much more to NZ than you lot do.
Yep, the filth along Riccarton Rd is mainly die to Koreans.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Murrary – again, agree but I don’t think that there was any provocation, not in legal terms anyway. France had backed away into the crowd by the time he was hit, and he wasn’t even hit by Boscowan. Anyway, not worth discussing really is it….
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:36 am
The perpetrator of the lamington incident was a classic Greens voter. Dreds, dressed in rags, most likely unemployed and his method of ‘protest’.
“the mainly Polynesian group shouted that she would be “on a plane back to Korea”
Wow, willing to bet this is going to be played off like ‘she had it coming’ by the leftist media.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:37 am
why wasn’t this guy charged with assault?
This by-election is attracting an incredible bunch of whack jobs.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
At least the heat is off the Great Blunderer, Melissa Lee, for a short while anyway!
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am
By tghe end of the campiagn, I think the National Socialists will be hopiong Lee is on a plane back to Korea, too.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
“How that made the TV news last night, I don’t know.”
Well you should know it Mr. Farrar.
TV newsrooms are just anti-democratic nests of leftist vipers, and until National develop a stragey to deal with these scum, they’ll continue to be on the back foot in the battle for the minds of the public.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Good grief.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:04 am
why wasn’t this guy charged with assault?
What assault?
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
What I loved is that Boscawen just kept on talking; didn’t miss a beat. What a machine!
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am
The Lamington Event really wasn’t such a big deal and the reason it wasn’t was because John Boscawen handled it with such poise and professionalism. He ignored it and just kept talking.
In my opinion Malcolm France was the one who ended up looking like a twat.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
The Left have special rules.
We have seen a good measure of that in the Expenses Scandals, and the cash for questions, and the cash for amendments in the Lords.
They just can’t help being corrupt, and egregious, lying twats. It’s in the DNA you know. They get it from Mummy and Daddy.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:24 am
“The Nats reap what they sow. Too gormless to see the left’s “passion” for multiculturalism for the fraud it is, they pander to it, and now learn a lesson that was obvious to anybody with a brain years ago.”
Yep the brown voices are becoming way too loud for my liking. I’ll stay in Aus.
“the mainly Polynesian group shouted that she would be on a plane back to Korea
Piss off back to the Islands you overwieght leeches to our health system.
Koreans contribute much more to NZ than you lot do.”
Couldn’t agree more, many New Zealanders feel the same.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Telling Asians to piss off back home, these people are emminently qualified to serve as Minister of Foreign Affairs under any Labour led government.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Koreans contribute much more to NZ than you lot do.
Yep, the filth along Riccarton Rd is mainly die to Koreans.
Checked out Otara lately?
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
People Before Profit sounds like the candidate from North Korea.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Obviously I am crazy because every time Lee makes a “blunder” I find myself liking her more… and becoming more disgusted with the trivialising and head-up-their-arses Auckland news media.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
People Before Profit sounds like the candidate from North Korea.
Nah Buttfuckistan sounds more endearing.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
“Buttfuckistan sounds more endearing.”
Good to see you being so open about your sexuality there Bevan.
It was a cake guys, hardly the crime of the century.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
“When one sees jack booted thugs bayoneting dissenters on to trains to gulags, and dragging them off to concentration camps, and suffocating them with plastic bags as in the killing fields of Cambodia, and one asks where do such inhuman acts stem from,”
It started with a chocolate and cream lamington!
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Whatever.
I saw a patched ACT candidate interrupt an Institute of Professional Engineers forum last year with some ridiculous comments about Chiropractors in an attempt to smear and discredit the Labour candidate who was speaking on an unrelated matter. I can’t remember his name, based on his stupid off-topic interruption I assumed it was “Fuckwit”.
Want to ACT like an obsequious little dick? Watch people’s respect for you diminish. Projectile lamingtons and cream pies are heckling the way it used to be.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
It wasnt heckling. It was another candidate.
The guy is a complete fucktard looking for attention.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Good to see you being so open about your sexuality there Bevan.
Ahh heres sonic, the master at reading a comment, picking one word and framing his entire rebuttal about it.
I think I almost feel sorry for you. Wait ……. nope.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Bevan. if you use words like “Buttfuckistan” expect it to get noticed and commented on.
If you avoided using language more suited to an 11 year old perhaps this would happen less often.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Bevan. if you use words like “Buttfuckistan” expect it to get noticed and commented on.
Somehow I get the feeling you wouldnt even get a one mile wide point…
Sonic, the dumbfuckery is strong in you.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
“dumbfuckery”
You just can’t help yourself can you Bevan. Perhaps we should call you Peter Pan? the little boy who never grew up.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Get a chat room, you two.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
You just can’t help yourself can you Bevan. Perhaps we should call you Peter Pan? the little boy who never grew up.
When I read that I had the feeling you were starting to cry, poor lad, chin up its only the internet.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
You don’t deal with mockery very well do you Bevan? Do you really imagine that people making fun of you are crying at the time?
Poor Bevvy.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
whats a fucktard ?
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Can anybody remember the way the left screamed when many laughed out loud at Comrade Klark’s rather embarrassing fall during the last election campaign?
They did not find that funny at all yet for some reason they seem to think that the assault on Boscowen is perfectly acceptable.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
“They did not find that funny at all yet for some reason they seem to think that the assault on Boscowen is perfectly acceptable.”
“assault”
It was a cake, understand it was going to be a cream pie in the face, however no cream pies being available a Lamington was used instead.
Cream pies in the face are, of course, a well known means of political protest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieing
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
If France can afford to buy a chocolate and cream lamington , why cant he afford a wash and a shave?
(poor old Parekura Horomia must have been watching Boscawen with envy)
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
You don’t deal with mockery very well do you Bevan?
You were mocking me? Huh, who would have thought.
See sonic, the difference is, when you try to mock someone, we just feel sorry for you – more often than not you miss the mark by a country mile.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
“You were mocking me? Huh, who would have thought.”
Anyone with reading comprehension of a 11 year old? Which given this metaphor “you miss the mark by a country mile.” Is not you.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
The Silent Majority says:
Exactly. Perhaps Redbaiter and others who are getting so vexed by this can’t see that that’s precisely what France was aiming for with this piece of juvenile stupidity. He’s no different to a toddler throwing his custard out of his highchair.
The correct response is to ridicule France and acknowledge Boscawen’s handling of the situation. As VOR says above, it could only have been bettered if Boscawen had put France in his place then and there.
[For the record, I have been attacked - seriously enough to warrant the perpetrator being held in custody - on the campaign trail. I don't condone it. But in this case the outrage just rewards the act].
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Well Boscawen does seem to be a shining star in the world of MP’s – seems he is one person with honesty and obviously tolerence.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
# sonic (2213) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 4 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
“They did not find that funny at all yet for some reason they seem to think that the assault on Boscowen is perfectly acceptable.”
“assault”
It was a cake, understand it was going to be a cream pie in the face, however no cream pies being available a Lamington was used instead.
Cream pies in the face are, of course, a well known means of political protest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieing”
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So that makes it somehow right? Ridiculous appeals to tradition do not give any form legitimacy.
Vote:Adults do not act in such a manner, and those of physical maturity who do are worthy only of contempt or pity.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Sounds like you need to lighten up Stuart.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
# sonic (2220) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Sounds like you need to lighten up Stuart.
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If you think ‘lightening up’ involves throwing food at another in public like a infant, then you are welcome to it.
Vote:You need to grow up, child, if you think it appropriate to inconvenience others in such a manner when going about their their job or any other activity.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
No-one threw food, it was carefully placed on his head. Perhaps you should inquire if your health insurance allows a sense of humour transplant Stuart.
Vote:May 26th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
why didn’t that guy
Vote:take the lamingtons off his
head? he looked a tool
May 27th, 2009 at 12:18 am
“This by-election is attracting an incredible bunch of whack jobs.”
Well how else do you think Hulun built herself such a large majority over all those years?
I mean, who else but a whack job would vote for her and evidently, Mt Albert has over 10,000…
Vote:May 27th, 2009 at 1:57 am
What planet are labour on! When it was a white man party, they criticise National for being racists. Here we have a yellow person, and they are still called racist. They could put up a half Maori, half tongan candidate, fluent in several pacific and asian languages and they would still call them racist. Sadly it is they only card they can play and they pick the wrong person to play it against.
Vote:May 27th, 2009 at 5:20 am
Sonic, the cream pie in the face “protest” is used by the lowest forms of political creatures, the ones who cannot use their minds or wits to put forth anything to a candidate intelligently.
So, how many cream pies you throw Sonic? You must have a few mates in this industry?
Vote:May 27th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Yesterday at a meeting hosted by the LTA for the Mt Albert Candidates, Malcolm France was more than humble in apologising to John for his previous days infraction. John was equally as humble in receiving the apology. In fact “tongue in cheek” thanking Malcolm for his deeds given the unexpected publicity that one simple lamington can create. In fact John is now spending some of his campaign time practising standing on one leg with a 200mm pavlova perched on his chrome dome. Needless to say this is in anticipation of Malcolm arriving at the next joint Candidates meeting with his culinary delights. Would have been interesting to see how David or Melissa would have reacted under the same circumstances. Not only is John honest and forgiving he will not be swayed by any untoward pressure or stress. All the appropriate criteria for a worthy Mt Albert Representative
Vote:May 27th, 2009 at 8:47 am
While I agree that Melissa Lee has been unfairly attacked, you do realise that there’s more to not being racist than having a variety of ethnicities in your midst, right?
Vote:May 27th, 2009 at 9:04 am
“do realise that there’s more to not being racist than having a variety of ethnicities in your midst, right?”
Why don’t you shut the fuck up Ryann. European people in NZ have been the least racist of all, and I for one am sick of your fucken whining about it while Maoris (for example) do it ten times as bad. Fuck off to Samoa if the racism in NZ is so bad you whining nit picking drop kick.
As the writer above says, no matter what is done, you bastards will still keep whining racism. Endlessly. Fuck it mate. I’ve had it up to here with you lot. How come Maori do so well in Australia, where they don’t have whining do gooders like you looking out for them?? How come they even dare to leave the bosom of the Treaty of Waitangi and mix it in the real world????
Pffft, you make me want to vomit you loser.
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