The cycleways get $50 million

May 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm by David Farrar

Well it has got the money. John Key has anounced:

The Prime Minister and Minister of Tourism, has today promised $50 million dollars over three years for the New Zealand Cycleway Project.

Speaking at the New Zealand Hotel Industry Conference in Auckland, Mr Key says the project, first raised at the Job Summit, will create a high quality tourism asset that will enhance New Zealand’s competitiveness as a tourism destination, provide employment, and stimulate economic development opportunities in regional economies.

“I propose to create a series of ‘Great Rides’ of New Zealand, with a long term aim of creating a network throughout the country.”

In this month’s Budget, the Ministry of Tourism will receive $50 million in operating funding to progress the Cycleway.

Well the Greens will be happy!

Oh except for the carbon footprint of the tourists flying over here to cycle. Maybe we need to have a cycleway from Australia also :-)

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30 Responses to “The cycleways get $50 million”

  1. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    So Bill English was talking shit on Q&A?

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  2. sonic (2,818 comments) says:

    So when is the next jobs summit to follow up on the success of the first one?

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  3. bearhunter (859 comments) says:

    “I propose to create a series of ‘Great Rides’ of New Zealand,”

    Can I suggest he start with S***** R******** from Palmerston North? She’s a cracker.

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  4. garethw (205 comments) says:

    Where would one find the cost/benefit analysis on this and the details of the proposal?

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  5. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    We just canned $1 million to teach kids how to pat sogs on the head.

    How is this a better plan?

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  6. Will de Cleene (485 comments) says:

    I’m so glad this government isn’t throwing money at pet projects like the last one.

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  7. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    George H at Tourism NZ has done a great job and this will assist and support him in getting even more to visit our shores.

    The market to tap into are the baby boomers who despite the current economic situation will still have enough to travel on.
    They are looking for something different and are more than able to cycle /walk the required daily distances. NZ is still realitively unknown and regarded as an exotic destination.

    To the neigh sayers suggest you take a breath and wait for 2/3 years. betcha the numbers will show this and other plan will boost the tourist trade God knows after the Socialists seek and destroy mission of the past decade we need all the foreign earning we can get

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  8. jarbury (464 comments) says:

    This is a good move. I wonder what will be able to be built for $50 million?

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  9. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    How many hip operations would $50 million buy?

    [DPF: 1/20th of how many the cost of the pet tunnel would buy. And generally investment in tourism pays for itself]

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  10. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    In order to cost this at $50million, there must be a proposal to build something specific. If so, where can we see the proposal? Or is this $50million for the Ministry of Tourism to talk about cycleways that require extra funding once they’re designed?

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  11. ben (2,396 comments) says:

    Dear lord.

    Didn’t voters get rid of the last government to avoid this rubbish?

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  12. ben (2,396 comments) says:

    Jarbury, I think I heard its $100/meter = 500kms. Not including resource consents. Not including maintenance.

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  13. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    I propose a “knocker’s forum” where fat, sedentary negative people can sit around on their lard arses constructing reasons why the country should not be building up quality tourist infrastructure like this :-)

    With reference to how it is the sort of thing Joe Stalin or Chairman Mao would do, if possible.

    (BTW carbon emissions from air travel into & out of NZ are already massive – this was covered at some length in the media last year. Anything running an engine so powerful that you can hear it from the other side of town is probably an ecological disaster!!)

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  14. shady (251 comments) says:

    As a baby boomer, I think this is a great idea. Would have been great when the kids were younger too – to take them on a journey on their bikes which was safe and they’d have a decent ride. Even if people/families can cycle part of the tracks, it is a vast improvement on what is available for leisure currently. It should be great for domestic tourism as well as international.

    I can understand the Labourites opposing – they will stupidly oppose anything the Nats might do, but I just can’t see a negative here. There is a much larger upside to spending $50m on a cycleway than spending the same on tramping tracks that are far less accessible, less appealing as a family activity. Or buying land that virtually no one will ever see or have the benefit of – as per some of the South Island Stations. Or a train set.

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  15. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    MyNameIsJack (553) 0 6 Says:

    May 14th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    How many hip operations would $50 million buy?

    [DPF: 1/20th of how many the cost of the pet tunnel would buy. And generally investment in tourism pays for itself]

    The issue is not about a cycleway or a tunnel. It was a simple question, used by your goodself on a number of occaisions.

    OK, then if you don’t like the hip operation question, how many permanent jobs will the cycleway create?

    1? 100? 1000? Or just pick a number and hope everyone forgets it?

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  16. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    And the “Labour’s pet tunnel” comments still continue.

    Banks’ surface bypass through Orakei/Meadowbank proved unworkable due to local opposition.
    Will National either:
    (A) Piss millions into the wind fighting in vain against Mt Albert locals for resource consent, or
    (B) Slip on the jack boots and legislate (Via an “out” from the RMA) that these people WILL GET THE F*CK OUT OF THE WAY?

    Underground route = fewer objections from disgruntled neighbours = project that has **a chance** of proceeding unopposed.

    There is, however, the small matter of paying for it!

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  17. david (2,531 comments) says:

    Aaah biter, is that a glimmer of sanity I see in your last post? Fan the spark son, you will be comforted.

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  18. starboard (2,463 comments) says:

    50 mill..big fuken deal…I remember Clark throwin 80 mill at the arts a while back..bitch..

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  19. RedRock (26 comments) says:

    I’ve walked the Camino de Santiago in Spain (www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_St._James) and recognise the volume of tourism that these types of walk/cycleways can generate. My father and I spent six weeks walking along the way. We met people from over 15 countries. Over 100,000 people arrive in Santiago each year including thousands of cyclists. This type of holiday is very popular in Europe. There are pilgrimage trails all over Europe, most of which can be followed all the way to Santiago.

    If New Zealand had a similar set of trails, (scenic rather than religious) I believe they would generate large numbers of tourists on a continual basis. Our climate would enable the tracks to be used all year round in most places and our international reputation for beautiful countryside would see enough people ride the trails for the government to get a very good return on its investment.

    I’m all for it.

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  20. dime (9,355 comments) says:

    didnt labour/winston wanna throw 80 mil at sex change ops?

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  21. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    This should be a winner going by what has been done in New Plymouth. A few years ago a walkway was constructed along the coast, not sure how long, about 15K’s, it is just about to popular now with walkers and cyclists and roller skaters, all competing for space. It has rejuvanted the city and there are plans to extend it along the Taranaki coast. It may take time to get a return on this cycleway but it will pay for it’s self in the long term. This can’t be said for some of the hair brained schemes dreamt up by the socialist money wasters.

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  22. Simon (677 comments) says:

    ‘Well the Greens will be happy!”

    Nothing would make them happy. The most joyless people on the planet.

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  23. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    redrock>I’ve walked the Camino de Santiago in Spain (www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_St._James) and recognise the volume of tourism that these types of walk/cycleways can generate.

    There is a difference with cycling, because you need a bicycle and all the accessories you need for touring, like panniers, water bottles, a helmet, tools, and a pump. You either bring it with you on an aircraft where you’ll be charged a fortune because you’re going to be way over your baggage allowance and the bicycle is going to be outsize. Or you buy it when you get here and sell for next to nothing when you leave. Or you rent one at an exorbitant rate per day, and with the problem of returning the bicycle to the hire point when you get to your destination. There will be a hard core that will do this. But I doubt you could justify $50mill on the basis that, maybe, a hundred overseas tourists a year will use it. If that.

    My own experience of cycling 3000km up the east coast of Australia a few years ago was that I might see another touring cyclist once a week, if I was lucky. It was rare enough that you’d always pull up to chat for a while.

    None of which is to say that it wouldn’t be a good idea to build more cycleways. There are plenty of places to ride in NZ that NZers will just love if they have the opportunity. And cycleways will mean you don’t have to ride on NZ’s awful state highways with their tiny hard shoulders, gravelly edges, and scary traffic. But I wouldn’t make a big deal about it promoting overseas tourism, because I just don’t see it happening.

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  24. Scott (1,693 comments) says:

    Agree its a good idea, the New Plymouth walkway has been a big winner for them.
    I also think the length of NZ is also good-it makes it special rather than a hodge podge mixture of cycle tracks.

    Great idea and I predict it will be good for our country, tourism, wise and maybe help NZers to get out and see their own country more.

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  25. Tuija (220 comments) says:

    ‘Well the Greens will be happy!”

    Nothing would make them happy. The most joyless people on the planet.

    What a strange thing to say

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  26. paradigm (507 comments) says:

    “Anything running an engine so powerful that you can hear it from the other side of town is probably an ecological disaster”

    Modern Passenger Jet aircraft are very fuel efficient, giving far better mileage/person than your average car. Yes they use a lot of fuel, but they also carry a lot of people. In the end it more than evens out.

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  27. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    $50 mill over 3 years.

    So Bill was right. It didn’t get $50 mill in this year’s budget, nor will it in next’s, it’s spread over three years!

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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  28. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Bad move. It’s $50m we don’t have, and will therefore need to borrow. Show me the business plan. Just looks like a sop to the voters, a $50m ‘hey we listened’ gesture.

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  29. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    getstaffed – yes.

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  30. peterquixote (231 comments) says:

    This proposal by Key is good,
    a good track through New Zealand,
    I’m going to ride it,
    should take two months i reckon,

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