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June 13, 2009 2:35pm by David Farrar

A Green protest

Sunday News covers this initiative by PETA to convince people to swap to a plant based diet.

One can only wish them luck.

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metcalph

Let’s see.

If I and a lot of other people convert to a vegan diet then such protests will cease.

On the other hand…

If I continue eating meat I will continue being bombarded by images of pretty women with not much on.

The choice is clear – eat meat.
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June 13, 2009 2:39pm
Don the Kiwi

Yum yum.

Where do we start eating? 😉
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June 13, 2009 2:49pm
sbk

“Vegans up in arms over Veg Trade”

Its just (s)exploitatation says Miss se(X)y star..”the suffering those poor Vegies went through .. it just breaks my heart.”
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June 13, 2009 2:59pm
Hagues

My diet is very much plant based… cow/sheep/pig eats the plants, I eat the cow/sheep/pig.
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June 13, 2009 3:04pm
Inventory2

Hagues – love it!
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June 13, 2009 3:12pm
Rakaia George

Away you go PETA…I wish you luck with your first High Country lentil farm.
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June 13, 2009 3:21pm
3-coil

Mum always told me that I must eat my greens – she was right.
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June 13, 2009 3:23pm
Poliwatch

I can’t figure out if these people are vegans because they love animals or because they hate plants
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June 13, 2009 3:25pm
philu

i find it quite fascinating that those in most need of..and who would benefit most .. from a vegan diet..

..are those who point the finger…

..and (hollow)-laugh the loudest..

..go figure..!

(anyway..time/the consequences will take their toll..)

..and the thing is..these are intelligent/analytical people..

..yet their addictions to flesh/fat/blood..are such..

..that they willfully ignore the knowledge they must already have..

..that they are (likely) heading to a premature grave..

..once again..

..go figure..!

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 13, 2009 3:34pm
democracymum

Personally I don’t think any woman looks good in lettuce.

My mistake – bok choi

I do not like it in a salad
I do not like it in a dress…
etc etc
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June 13, 2009 3:34pm
democracymum

…although most new breastfeeding mums know that
cabbage leaves will do wonders for the pain of engorged breasts
a must-have for any new mum in hospital.

(These women don’t look like they fall into that category though)
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June 13, 2009 3:39pm
philu

next time i get engorged breasts..democracymum..

i shall follow your advice..

..and slap a couple of cabbage leaves on them..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 13, 2009 3:41pm
Chicken Little

Whats up with womens knees these days?

Is it intelligent design or do skinny blondes naturally evolve to have bad knees.*

*disclaimer – my wife’s a skinny blonde with bad knees (don’t tell her I said that)
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June 13, 2009 3:52pm
Manolo

I’ve said it before: NZ is never short of fuckwits, morons, tree-huggers, and gullible people; and that is where the Luddite Green Party support comes from.

For non-sensical reasons these “activists” feel always compelled to tell you how to live your life.
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June 13, 2009 4:02pm
Shunda barunda

philu, I am deeply upset over your insensitive, bigoted comments.
There are those of us that suffer from a condition known as acute carnivitus, where we see meat at a shop and must purchase it, cook it, and eat it. This condition affects a great many kiwi’s which makes your comments all the more intollerant.
You can’t possibly know my pain, have some damned humanity man!!
There are women with this disorder as well, which makes you an ignorant misoginist intollerable bigot!!
It must be wonderful for you to hang out with the slim and pasty, have a heart man and spare a thought for the non skeletal, and those with a little more colour in the skin!!
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June 13, 2009 4:04pm
tknorriss

OOOh for some big catipillars
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June 13, 2009 4:07pm
Banana Llama

Hungry Catipillars :O!
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June 13, 2009 4:19pm
Brian Marshall

In all seriousness, why do these finger pointers/wagers tell us to go vegetarian and save the world?
If they were really serious, they would tell us to have less children.
They should start in the overpopulated enviromentally damaged countries first. Same with the anti-carbon Global warming nutters. More people is why carbon emissions have shot up over the last 50 years.

Now having said that, at least it’s a protest I don’t mind watching even if I disagree with the message.
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June 13, 2009 4:44pm
sbk

philu (4211) Vote: 0 6 Says:
June 13th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

..yet their addictions to flesh/fat/blood..are such..
..that they willfully ignore the knowledge they must already have..

..yet their “addictions” .
..that they “willfully ignore” ..

words written by PhilU?.
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June 13, 2009 5:00pm
village idiot

Chicken Little – you’re playing a dangerous game, talking about knees on this blog.

Funny how you meat-eaters seem to wilt at the sight of lettuce. Myself, I’ll stick up for those three women in green.
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June 13, 2009 5:23pm
village idiot

Why hasn’t someone said they’d like to toss their salads? What’s wrong with you fat-chewing righties?
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June 13, 2009 5:24pm
Viking2

OOHHH I wouldn’t mind muchin the lettuce of the bush on the brunette.
we could finish off with another favourite dish,m
yeh delicious stuff, Edmunds recipe

Honey turnover and lettuce root”
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June 13, 2009 5:27pm
TCrwdb

Plants have feelings too
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June 13, 2009 5:31pm
Patrick Starr

Judging by their hairless underarms they’re not real green women.

(I suspect they’re plants)
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June 13, 2009 5:44pm
Murray M

I wonder if they like sausage?
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June 13, 2009 5:51pm
Shunda barunda

“Judging by their hairless underarms they’re not real green women.

(I suspect they’re plants)”

Carniverous plants!! stay back lads, its a trap!!
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June 13, 2009 6:35pm
Rebel Heart

The ignorance of meat eaters on this blog is pathetic. Here, have some information:

In addition to having distinct personalities, cows are very intelligent animals who can remember things for a long time. Animal behaviorists have found that cows interact in complex ways, developing friendships over time, sometimes holding grudges against cows who treat them badly and choosing leaders based upon intelligence. They have complex emotions as well and even have the ability to worry about the future.

Researchers have found that cows can not only figure out problems, they also enjoy the challenge and get excited when they find a solution. In one study, researchers challenged the animals with a task where they had to find how to open a door to get some food. The researchers then measured their brainwaves. Professor Broom said that ‘The brainwaves showed the cows excitement; their heartbeat went up and some even jumped into the air. We called it their Eureka moment,’ Cows can also learn how to push a lever to operate a drinking fountain when they’re thirty or press a button with their head to release food when they’re hungry. Like humans they quickly learn to avoid things that cause pain like electric fences. In fact if just one cow in the herd is shocked by an electric fence, the rest of the herd will learn from that and will avoid the fence in the future.

Grandmother cows often help their daughters with mothering duties, but one cow named Olivia wanted no part of that. She never left her calf’s side, and she ignored her mother’s offers to help groom him. Offended, her mother finally marched off to another field to graze with her friends and never communicated to her daughter again. Cows can also remember and hold grudges against people who have hurt them or their family members

Dairy cows are continually kept pregnant and lactating and their babies are sold off to the meat industry when they are only two days old. The life of a dairy cow is not as natural as you might think, especially considering that 80 percent of dairy cows are made pregnant through artificial insemination.

The only way for a cow, like any other mammal, to produce milk is for the cow to have a baby. The milk produced by cows is naturally meant for baby calves; however, because people want to drink this milk, the baby calves are taken away from their mothers when they are only a few days old. Cows are extremely maternal animals and both the mother cow and the baby calf suffer terribly from being separated at such a young age. In fact, one cow missed her baby so much that she broke out of her paddock and trekked through 8 kilometers of paddocks and rivers to find her baby. On dairy farms, mother cows can be heard bellowing out wildly trying to find their babies as well as running after the cattle trucks that take their babies to separate farms.

The baby calves life is then decided by their gender. That’s right, not only is the dairy industry hell for the animals, the environment and your health, it is also an industry that decides an animal’s entire life based on whether they are male or female. If the calve is male then he is taken away to be raised and slaughtered for meat. Because of this the NZ dairy industry contributes to the death of more than 1 million male dairy cows every year. That’s one death every 20 seconds. In fact, 55 percent of all beef in New Zealand supermarkets comes directly from the dairy industry. These male calves are transported to separate meat farms where they will never see their mothers again. They suffer terribly on their journey to the meat farm. Transported as young as 4 days of age, they endure cold and hunger, without food for up to 30 hours, while struggling to maintain their footing in the cattle truck.

However if the calf is female she is raised as a dairy cow, living in the same conditions as her mothers. She too will live in a cycle of pregnancy and lactation, being forced to give birth to a baby calf each year, only to have that baby torn away from her within a few days. In the wild cows can live to be up to 25 years old. But on dairy farms they are slaughtered when they are only 8-10 years old meaning that most dairy cows live less than half their natural life span.

Because dairy cows are milked so excessively, NZ dairy cows have increased risks of teat diseases like mastitis. When a cow has mastitis her udder may become so inflamed that it is as hard as a stone, and blood bubbles into her milk, which becomes clotted and watery. Severe cases of mastitis can kill a cow in less than a day.

Dairy is a very nutritional, healthy and natural food, if you’re a baby calf! Cow’s milk is designed to be healthy for calves, who have four stomachs, gain hundreds of pounds in a few months and can weigh up to 1000 pounds before they are two years old. Dairy products contain no complex carbohydrates or fiber but instead are packed full of saturated fats and cholesterol. Because of this, dairy products have been linked to asthma, allergies, heart disease, cancer and obesity. Dairy companies continually promote dairy products for calcium and bone health. However dairy products are actually quite low in calcium, compared to foods like soy milk, almonds, nuts, apricots, broccoli, figs, and tofu. In fact, one serving of sesame seeds has almost double the calcium as a glass of cow’s milk and one serving of soymilk has almost 100 milligrams more calcium then a serving of cow’s milk. Magnesium, Potassium, Vitamin C, and Vitamin K are all required for good bone health. These vitamins are all found in a vegan diet. The only mineral that vegans should look out for is Vitamin B12. Vegans should either take a B12 supplement or eat foods fortified with B12, such as marmite and soymilk

There are dairy free cheeses, chocolates, milks, yogurts, pretty much any dairy food you can think of can be made vegan. For example try replacing dairy yogurt with soy yogurts like King lands, which is available at most supermarkets. Replace cheese with vegan cheeses like Scheese and Cheezley which you can buy at http://www.choosecruetlyfree.co.nz. There are rice, almond, oat and soymilks all available at supermarkets, just experiment with different types, flavors and brands until you find one that you like. Most people think that if they go vegan they will have to give up chocolate. This is simply not true. All of Whittaker’s dark chocolates are vegan, and you can get dairy free white chocolate at http://www.choosecruetlyfree.co.nz. Replace butter with dairy free margarine like Olivani, which can be found at most supermarkets. Literally anything can be made vegan. Nachos, pizza, pasta, casserole, stew, soup, burgers, hot chips, sausages, you name it there’s a vegan alternative.
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June 13, 2009 7:37pm
Shunda barunda

Rebel Heart, plants have to die for you to eat them you know, you’re nothing but a murdering b#stard.
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June 13, 2009 7:50pm
ophiuchus

“NZ dairy cows have increased risks of teat diseases like mastitis.”

Mastitis is caused by not milking the cows regularly as well.

Sure I can go vegan – but only if they can get the seagulls to stop picking on the poor fish, tell endangered lions to stop eating the defenceless antelope and please for the love of god, tell them EVIL killer whales to stop eating them cute little sea lions.
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June 13, 2009 7:52pm
philu

very tidy summary/roundup there..rebelheart..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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June 13, 2009 8:34pm
MT_Tinman

A shame a joke organisation like Peta is given publicity by this blog.

One question for the nutter with the long post (that I have no intention of reading); If your way is even partially correct (it isn’t) why do you feel the need to try and replicate meat products?
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June 13, 2009 9:02pm
lilman

REBEL HEART- you complete and utter fruit cake.
Dairy farmers arent polluters as a whole like all greenies are wallies either.Good and bad on both sides,but know this for you to espouse you great passion and drive to all and sundry ,dont for get your university,roads, hospitals ,government,shops and every bloody thing in this great country has dairy to thank as well as other Primary industries for their very existance.
If you arent a hypocrite,why are you posting even,for cows and sheep and those dreadfull pigs aswell gave you your life style.

You truly are a coward to the truth.
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June 13, 2009 10:15pm
Brian Marshall

If rebel heart had a brain, he would realise that the eating of meat and other sources of animal protien is what gave human ancestors the edge and allowed us to develop bigger brains.
Give us one example of an intelligent vegaterian animal. None, why is that? Cause all the meat eating animals keep eating them when they argue with the carnivores about changing their diet.
The only animal I think would come close is an Elephant, and look how much they have to eat every day. If there were 6 billion elephants on the planet, the planet plant life would be in serious trouble.
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June 14, 2009 9:39am
Murray

This would be the same peta that euthaises 97% of the pets they take to “rehome”, has the celeb face of Pam Anderson, gives out faux comics to kids telling them that their mother is a murderer for cooking meat and thinks that chook farming is morally equvilant to Nazi death camps.

Pass.

I’m sure their nice girls who think they doing something positive but I prefer to know the nature of the organisation thats getting my support.

As long as Jessica Simpson is willing to be photgraphed wearing a t-shirt that says “Real girls eat meat” the sex appeal vote is still going to the cheeseburger end of the spectrum.
http://fibers.com/blog/real-girls-eat-meat-t-shirt-spotted-on-celebrity/

And yes she really is that simple that she missed the double meaning.
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June 14, 2009 10:32am
bearhunter

“Cows can also learn how to push a lever to operate a drinking fountain when they’re thirty ”

Dumb pricks. I could do that when I was 12. And if we weren’t meant to eat animals, why are they made from meat?
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