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	<title>Comments on: Can Norman beat Lee?</title>
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		<title>By: Tuija</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-572627</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuija</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How times change
&lt;blockquote&gt;But at this stage what I think it shows is that yes it is possible National could win the seat with a very narrow 250 vote majority, but more likely Labour holds on with 3,000 or so votes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lee struggling to get second eh ? who would have thought?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How times change</p>
<blockquote><p>But at this stage what I think it shows is that yes it is possible National could win the seat with a very narrow 250 vote majority, but more likely Labour holds on with 3,000 or so votes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lee struggling to get second eh ? who would have thought?</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MJ, I think she&#039;s have to work about 103 hours a day to get paid that low.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJ, I think she&#8217;s have to work about 103 hours a day to get paid that low.</p>
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		<title>By: mjanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-572613</link>
		<dc:creator>mjanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently Lee only gets paid $2 an hour! 

What happened to minimum wage laws? Did National abolish them under urgency too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Lee only gets paid $2 an hour! </p>
<p>What happened to minimum wage laws? Did National abolish them under urgency too?</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571908</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will Wussel beat Lee? doubt it, Wussel would have trouble beating himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Wussel beat Lee? doubt it, Wussel would have trouble beating himself.</p>
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		<title>By: mjanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571857</link>
		<dc:creator>mjanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is rather trivial analysing sample statistics down as far as the margins of errors cross.

As we know samples obviously only give the representative outcome of a population - therefore the bigger margins are what should be used for any kind of statistical analysis or comments on predicted outcomes.

To add my 2c, I believe Russel will beat Melissa :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is rather trivial analysing sample statistics down as far as the margins of errors cross.</p>
<p>As we know samples obviously only give the representative outcome of a population &#8211; therefore the bigger margins are what should be used for any kind of statistical analysis or comments on predicted outcomes.</p>
<p>To add my 2c, I believe Russel will beat Melissa <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: backster</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571699</link>
		<dc:creator>backster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Countess of Cleaveage........Troll exposed. She is really Goff&#039;s Indian Honey Trap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Countess of Cleaveage&#8230;&#8230;..Troll exposed. She is really Goff&#8217;s Indian Honey Trap.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, like Shearer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, like Shearer.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571666</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mellissa&#039;s problem is she has no idea other than that she can do socialism better.

The Nats are a decade behind the public mood, as elections in Europe show.

Replace her with a Conservative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mellissa&#8217;s problem is she has no idea other than that she can do socialism better.</p>
<p>The Nats are a decade behind the public mood, as elections in Europe show.</p>
<p>Replace her with a Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: journo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571661</link>
		<dc:creator>journo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MetVUW (http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/) shows a very wet Saturday is likely.

This could affect voting patterns.  Time for a mega KFC order, perhaps?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MetVUW (<a href="http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/" rel="nofollow">http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/</a>) shows a very wet Saturday is likely.</p>
<p>This could affect voting patterns.  Time for a mega KFC order, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will Normann pick up the Mt Albert Labour / BNP vote?  The Greens are inward looking enough and just like the BNP keen on so called indigenous rights they probably should go for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Normann pick up the Mt Albert Labour / BNP vote?  The Greens are inward looking enough and just like the BNP keen on so called indigenous rights they probably should go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shearer is a National man anyway isn&#039;t he toad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shearer is a National man anyway isn&#8217;t he toad.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571643</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That poll was partially pre-Budget and entirely pre-Worth revelations, so I&#039;d suggest things may have already changed by the time it was released.

What&#039;s more, it shows Lee has no chance, so people who support Green policies may would have voted Labour for Shearer it were close will now feel free to vote for Norman.  Similarly, some who were polled as voting for Lee may well defect to Boscawen or Norman now they know she has no chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That poll was partially pre-Budget and entirely pre-Worth revelations, so I&#8217;d suggest things may have already changed by the time it was released.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, it shows Lee has no chance, so people who support Green policies may would have voted Labour for Shearer it were close will now feel free to vote for Norman.  Similarly, some who were polled as voting for Lee may well defect to Boscawen or Norman now they know she has no chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/06/can_norman_beat_lee.html/comment-page-1#comment-571631</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It all goes to show, all the media training in the world cant make a lady&quot;

Yeah we can see that troll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It all goes to show, all the media training in the world cant make a lady&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah we can see that troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Countess of Cleavage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Countess of Cleavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poor wee Melissa. 
 She so sweet when you first see her , but what comes out of her mouth makes you think of some school girl- and not Dio either. 
It all goes to show, all the media training in the world  cant make a lady, that requires a good french or swiss finishing school.

But Ive all ways said we in the National party dont do identity politics, in my day it was called flavour of the month. It ends up so quickly as last months  look, like polka dot hats for  ladies day  at the races.
So even if she comes third , it will be a triumph for her personally, very good to  set the ground for this early
. We cant have any of this reflecting back on those that chose her. 
Those that know horse breeding would never put some flighty filly up for a group 1 race. 
 It could ruin your reputation and no one would send their best stallions any more, all you end up with would be randy old goats]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor wee Melissa.<br />
 She so sweet when you first see her , but what comes out of her mouth makes you think of some school girl- and not Dio either.<br />
It all goes to show, all the media training in the world  cant make a lady, that requires a good french or swiss finishing school.</p>
<p>But Ive all ways said we in the National party dont do identity politics, in my day it was called flavour of the month. It ends up so quickly as last months  look, like polka dot hats for  ladies day  at the races.<br />
So even if she comes third , it will be a triumph for her personally, very good to  set the ground for this early<br />
. We cant have any of this reflecting back on those that chose her.<br />
Those that know horse breeding would never put some flighty filly up for a group 1 race.<br />
 It could ruin your reputation and no one would send their best stallions any more, all you end up with would be randy old goats</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Statistical question: David, is there much evidence to support the notion that the samples from these polls are actually normally distributed?

I mean, obviously if you take enough samples then the central limit theorem applies, but I&#039;m always so wary of the assumptions these polls seem to make based on such relatively small sample sizes.

[DPF: Generally political polls have a pretty good track record as being good representations. But there are many things pollsters can do wrong to get a bad sample, so they are far from infallible]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistical question: David, is there much evidence to support the notion that the samples from these polls are actually normally distributed?</p>
<p>I mean, obviously if you take enough samples then the central limit theorem applies, but I&#8217;m always so wary of the assumptions these polls seem to make based on such relatively small sample sizes.</p>
<p>[DPF: Generally political polls have a pretty good track record as being good representations. But there are many things pollsters can do wrong to get a bad sample, so they are far from infallible]</p>
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		<title>By: mike12</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their poll had Lee winning the seat for some strange reason. Combine this with the Muss trying to steal votes off Dave &#039;Black water&quot; Shearer and Melissa has an outside show :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their poll had Lee winning the seat for some strange reason. Combine this with the Muss trying to steal votes off Dave &#8216;Black water&#8221; Shearer and Melissa has an outside show <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well hes got a slight weight advantage but Lee is wirey and may have some moves.

If it goes past the third round my moneys on a points win for Lee so Norman will need to look to landing some early hits and go for a KO.

Apparently hes got more &quot;muscle&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hes got a slight weight advantage but Lee is wirey and may have some moves.</p>
<p>If it goes past the third round my moneys on a points win for Lee so Norman will need to look to landing some early hits and go for a KO.</p>
<p>Apparently hes got more &#8220;muscle&#8221;.</p>
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