General Debate 2 June 2009

June 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 am by David Farrar
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  1. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    If you put a mirror up to the Kiwiblog logo, it says, “Gold Iwi K.”

    Coincidence?

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  2. starboard (2,447 comments) says:

    …you need to get out more…

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  3. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Regarding theoutrageous claim by a sub sect of the UN, headed by Kofi Annan.

    Here is a stinging rebuttal.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/james_delingpole/blog/2009/06/01/kofi_annan_300000_people_die_every_year_from_climate_change_nonsense

    The comments following are particulary interesting.

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  4. petal (698 comments) says:

    “On this day in 1831, British explorer James Clark Ross discovered the North Magnetic Pole.”

    I think it’s since drifted about here.

    Brrrrrr

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  5. walter.k.jones (8 comments) says:

    Could some of the Finance Ministry staff do something about this exchange rate drift north? Surely the farmes and other exporters must also be getting cross!

    Bring it back to .50 please

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  6. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    This would be the same Kofi Annan whose personal assistant ordered Canadian Lieutenant General Roméo Dallaire NOT to sieze shipments of machetes at the airport and NOT to interfeer in the following genocide and the same Kofi Annan who personally blocked General Dallaire from giving evidence at the investigation and refused to release the documents showing his office had full prior knowledge of the planned genocide of nearly 1 million people?

    Watch closely while I give a crap about him trying to blame the weather for killing people. No one tops him in book of the recent history of mass killings thanks.

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  7. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    Who the fuck is peterquixote?

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  8. petal (698 comments) says:

    I’ll get on that as soon as I find Carmen Sandiego.

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  9. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    A twitter feed on this blog:

    has just turned on my heater for the first time this year.

    WTF has happened to Wellington? It used to be cool.

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  10. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Anyone else worried about Ryan?

    “He was a quiet man, kept to himself…”

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  11. petal (698 comments) says:

    … chiselled DPF in mirrored writing into his forehead …

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  12. peterwn (2,935 comments) says:

    See:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2463079/Freezing-family-told-Get-tough/

    Some Genesis customers had long periods without power during the weekend when a computer glitch meant they could not top up their meters and the meter disconnected the power when the prepay was used up.

    It was not the customers’ faults. A customer alleged being told to ‘Get Tough’ by Genesis staff and Genesis denied it which they seemed to have done ‘on principle’ without investigating.

    In these circumstances Genesis should have swung into emergency mode and called out inspectors and electricians to bypass the affected meters. IMO Gerry should give Genesis one almighty kick in the backside. Genesis’ handling of the situation is just not on.

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  13. trout (865 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan on the Cullen Fund. The suspension of payments into the fund indicates that the Government is heading this way.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/2462905/Dream-over-says-Gareth-Morgan/
    Can’t say I disagree.

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  14. virtualmark (1,421 comments) says:

    trout … on the one hand I agree with Gareth Morgan … and on the other hand I think about how he owns a funds management business, Gareth Morgan Investments, which would stand to pick up hundreds of millions of dollars worth of assets from such a move.

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  15. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    virtualmark, so you agree with him! If you think it’s a good move, then surely it’s irrelevant that he’s a fund manager?

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  16. trout (865 comments) says:

    Of all the participants in the funds management business Gareth is probably the one that least needs the money. And as he says his busines has to compete in the market place for clients. My own Kiwisaver account is managed by GMI and I have no complaints.

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  17. jcuknz (648 comments) says:

    The main threat to National Superanuiation is the mind set of selfish folk ignoring their responsibilities to look after those without. Forgetting that the less folk have the less they spend on keeping the ecconomy going. The aged are unlikely to save anything they get since they have barely enough to live on so it all returns into the ecconomy.

    Another issue is why is the government borrowing so much when it has the Super Fund .. I’m not suggesting an immediate sale of assests which would depress returns but at least a gradual sale when good prices could be obtained. One shouldn’t borrow to progress the fund neither should one borrow to maintain the fund. Unless anybody can come up with figures to show the loss from selling is considerably greater than holding on to a limited fund as it is now.

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  18. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Hey Glutaemus who is the dick in the comments on that link who claims the hole in the ozone layer has been “solved”?

    Apprently its continued existance is a conservative polt of some kind. Where the hell do we get these loonies from?

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  19. Jack5 (4,220 comments) says:

    New topic for a second if I may.

    Who said NZ was parochial? The headline….

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10575915

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  20. big bruv (12,352 comments) says:

    Is anybody fooled by the words of B Hussein Messiah Obama when he says that he is a reluctant owner of GM?

    State control of the worlds second largest car manufacturer is the stuff of wet dreams for the Democrats.

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  21. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    bb, with its Chapter 11 filing and the already announced plant closures, product line cuts, how long do you think GM will retain status as No 2?

    Of course, state control hasn’t stopped China’s boom, has it?

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  22. Komata (971 comments) says:

    Re the Air France tragedy:

    Although it has only just occured, (and is probably as a result of extreme air turbulence aka a thunderstorm of large proportions) , any bets on the length of time it will take before, someone, somewhere, makes the inevitable associtation between the unsolved ‘disappearance’ (after all another airliner -Avro Tudor IV ‘Star Tiger’ disappeared in the same vicinity) and the Bermuda Triangle? And that they will be American?

    Watch this ‘space’ . . .

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  23. Angus (536 comments) says:

    This link is lowbrow and locker room stuff, but seeing that vile rapper Eminem getting made an “Arse” of, is hilarious !

    http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/eminem/news/122823-watch-bruno-eminem-at-mtv-movie-awards

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  24. backster (2,000 comments) says:

    JACK;;;;;;;;;Of course, state control hasn’t stopped China’s boom, has it?

    Maybe not, but it has produced a lot of shonky Billionaires in a very short time, and I don’t think they started out picking rice.

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  25. Bok (740 comments) says:

    Komata
    No bermuda Triangle theory, simply another Scarebus. These things are dangerous, cheap and will kill loads more people.

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  26. Bok (740 comments) says:

    No MNJ
    Slave labour does have financial benefits.
    As does forced seizure of property, bulldozing of housing without buying them first , just to make way for a factory.
    very caring and loving and looking after the small guy, these communist and socialists countries.
    Just have a look at how South Koreans cannot wait to nip into North Korea and share in the poverty and misery.

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  27. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Opening a new coal fired power plant every weeks seems to be the way to go according to genocide jack.

    Sounds good, we even have our own coal.

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  28. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    Bok (500) Vote: 1 0 Says:

    June 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
    No MNJ
    Slave labour does have financial benefits.

    Very true, especially for walmart et al.

    Bok, are you refusing to buy chinese on these grounds?

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  29. Bok (740 comments) says:

    No On grounds of quality, why?

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  30. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Whaaaahahahahaha gettinga job in walmart is “slavery” but getting your house bulldozed for good of the communist party is just another day at the office.

    No wonder people think you’re such a pody part.

    Gotta love that work ethic.

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  31. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    maybe the South Koreans will change their minds when they see this -

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/06/02/1243708441374.html

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  32. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    The world as we knew it has ended.

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/2009/06/02/1243708434572.html

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  33. Bok (740 comments) says:

    MNJ
    You crack me up. The people live in abject poverty, and you show the dictator’s house as an example how good it is?
    Go and read the article and you will really see what a lovely man or thing really il is. Chemical warfare, nuclear tests and palatial mansions. Wow. Sometimes the hand posts faster than the eyes read hey MNJ?

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  34. Bok (740 comments) says:

    If you are too lazy to read it MNJ then let me post it for you and you can tell us all how this actually underscores your support of the North Korean regime… (and now we will hear the squeals, “I dont , I dont” yea right.)

    “Among the most notable findings is the site of mass graves created in the 1990s following a famine that the UN estimates killed about 2 million people.

    “Graves cover entire mountains,” Melvin said.

    Also visible is the stark contrast between the living conditions of North Korea’s elite and the general population.

    The palaces housing dictator Kim Jong Il and his inner circle, clearly shown on the maps, contain Olympic-size swimming pools with giant waterslides and golf courses.

    Conversely, much of North Korea’s population is reliant on foreign food aid, ironic given the authoritarian regime is built around the ideology of self-reliance.

    Analysing the satellite maps allowed Melvin to plot the country’s transport and electricity network, revealing that many towns have no power supply at all.

    Melvin and his team also believe they have discovered the Vinalon complex that has been connected with chemical warfare experiments.”

    Riveting stuff is it not MNJ.

    2 million starve while KJI plays on a water slide.
    Wow and NZ was stupid enough to get rid of Helen? What were they thinking?!? Just think another nine years and NZ could have had a great palace like that as well.

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  35. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    Key is looking stupid over super. On the goggle box, he looks and sounds like a liar.

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  36. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    Hey idiot, keep pushing the key is a liar theme. You look more stupid with each successive comment. It’s quite entertaining.

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  37. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    English reeks of dishonesty and it shows like Borat’s bum, there for all to see.

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  38. ophiuchus (127 comments) says:

    village idiot oozes noxious gases from his arse when he speaks

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