Strange that you should think that using a cellphone badly and stupidly is somehow different from driving badly and stupidly? Or do you believe that just because some people drive badly and stupidly then all people drive badly and stupidly?

And so everyone should be banned from driving?

Or that everyone is at the same risk of causing a crash no matter how they drive, how they use a cellphone or how they talk to their passengers in the front or back seats?

That kind of belief is actually the epitome of irresponsibility. The daft (and socialist) notion that how individuals behave is irrelevant so long as they comply with the law which must be designed and detailed to remove all risk – which of course it never does but actually increases risk by removing relevant localised information from decision-making.

And yes I agree that you selfish pricks who consider yourself to be absolutely capable and conscientious drivers are mindlessly stupid if you think you can drive safley and use the cellphone at the same time. See you every day driving like fruit cakes to an accident waiting to happen.

$250 instant fine in Queensland and they are much better drivers than you lot.

Epitome of the gen y ultimate mother.

Large 4 wheel Remuera cruiser at 3.15pm going all the way around a roundabout in dense traffic, steering with one hand and the other holding a cellphone, the mouth going full on, whilst yelling at the three kids and a dog in the back seats. And of course shouting “oh my God, oh my God” .
As bad as having full on sex with a cellphone to her ear while she makes the lunch and yells at the kids having breakfast.

No, they’ll make them switch to Vodafone as a punishment

I do not think anyone disagrees that people should be prudent in their use of cellphones while driving. The issue is whether its something that needs regulating.

I say it does not. There are enough laws. This is just the anti-smacking beast raising its ugly head again. A bunch of panty waisted nancy boys with a fascist mindset (yeah, don’t worry, there were plenty of them working for Adolf too) in Wellington trying to justify their existence.

Joyce needs to pull them into line, not pander to their empire building self serving strategies.

It might help the mobile ph witterers give up the blathering habit while driving a deadly machine.

Me? South Korea, though I find their absolute dedication to making money and doing nothing but work spiritually deadening in a way, even if I admire unconditionally what they did with their country after the desolation of the Korea War (the country was absolutely trashed). Is there no way to combine their work ethic with a little bit of enjoying life?

Power poles “cause” deaths, so- Should all power transmission lines be underground, on the basis that by doing so, it WILL SAVE ONE LIFE, AND THAT MAKES ANYTHING WORTHWHILE.

Ask any liberal.

“Confidence in yourself is good, I reckon, but disdain for and impatience with others is so often the downfall.”

Good example even tho its not tootally relevant.

So what do you want? North Korea or South Korea?

I’m not saying there is a direct correlation, but it shows that it can work the other way.

Confidence in yourself is good, I reckon, but disdain for and impatience with others is so often the downfall.

Whether cellphone distraction is actually responsible for any deaths is something I have no idea about, but I’m fine with the idea of the ban in principle pending actual data. The actual risk is important, and what we should base these decisions around.

If it turns out cellphone distraction has never caused a death, well, I’d think the ban is an overreaction and rather pointless. Anyone got any good studies?

Wow, who would have thought, Redbaiter standing up for his socialist watermelon buddies!

Fuck SOCIALIST NZers are hopeless. Why don’t you all fuck off to commie China and leave NZ to the Indonesians?

Instead why don’t you make it easier and fuck of out of the country yourself.

As a secondary issue, there is plenty of argument that allowing the government to insert itself into road law enforcement to the extent it does has a negative effect.

http://pc.blogspot.com/2009/06/libertarian-sus-road-tolls-tax-cuts.html#c2792223891679890404

There is a fuzzy line there, and I’m not really sure where it is. But your reacting with such anger that I assume you have a pretty clear idea, and I’m interested in where you think it is, so I judge whether you have a valid point.