Quoting Bill English

June 4th, 2009 at 1:31 pm by David Farrar

NZPA has a story (not onlne yet) quoting taking questions at a post budget speech.

He is talking about how he wants to make it easier for graduates, especially overseas, to pay off their loan. His exact words:

For example, he said it was extremely difficult for students to get information about and repay loans, especially when they were overseas.

He said graduates were computer literate and handled banking on-line so should be able to make payments to their loans the same way.

“If you are overseas with a student loan it’s very hard to even find the IRD’s phone number anywhere,” Mr English said.

“For any other service you just go on your laptop and they’ve got their pirated movies, and they’ve got their music downloads and they’ve got their email from mum.

“It’s all there — so why aren’t their there? Then they’d repay them.”

So Bill is saying it should be as easy to pay off your student loan, as it is to pirate music and movies :-)

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16 Responses to “Quoting Bill English”

  1. Ryan Sproull (7,360 comments) says:

    You don’t raise your 68 children without knowing a thing or two about the internet.

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  2. d14 (1 comment) says:

    My son in Japan accesses the IRD site and uses a credit card to pay off his loan. The credit card he found was the simplest way of transferring the money.
    A simple google search brings up the IRD site and you can register on the front page.

    So it seems possible now.

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  3. stephen (3,981 comments) says:

    ‘The kids aaand their inter-net, their ‘PCs’ an their ‘skateboards’…hey – get off my lawn!’

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  4. Hagues (703 comments) says:

    DPF “NZPA has a story (not onlne yet) quoting Bill English taking questions at a post budget speech.”

    Its online since this am….

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10576389

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  5. Pascal (1,187 comments) says:

    1. Go to http://www.ird.govt.nz
    2. Click “Contact Us”
    3. Under the left hand section for Phone Numbers, click Student Loans.

    That takes you to this page. I’d be worrying about the quality of tertiary education when they cannot actually find IRD’s phone number online.

    As to student loan repayments online? They can be done through:

    National Bank tax payment system
    ANZ Bank tax payment system

    Googling “pay student loan online” for sites within New Zealand provides a number of results.

    Such as Viewing your balance online, how to make repayments while you are overseas by using a credit card. All on the first page.

    I don’t know what Bill English is on, but seriously. If a student can’t find this information they should go back to Primary School.

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  6. NX (443 comments) says:

    ^ Pascal has highlighted where there is a will there is a way.

    But the IRD, WINZ, and Studylink sites are hard to navigate. To access you student loan stuff on the Studylink site is almost ridiculous. I have to actually write down my password… and or keyword.. so I can count characters to answer the security question.

    Bill English’s answer is astute because it could be simpler. I.e. have your student loan account show up on your online banking. Because if you’re anything like me, I don’t go looking for my student loan balance; out of site, out of mind.

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  7. MyNameIsJack (2,414 comments) says:

    Even easier than pascal’s commenst – its on the home page, under individuals and families headings.

    Took me less than 3 seconds to find it, but then i haven’t had the benefits of a university education like NX or a comfy leather seat like B’Linglish.

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  8. georgedarroch (303 comments) says:

    IRD is still run by idiots. 9 years of Labour didn’t see much improvement.

    The IRD would want a certificate from a Government agency before they accepted that I breathe air.

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  9. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    Yes its reasonably easy to pay if you live & work in NZ, but as English is actually talking about it being hard to pay from overseas, it misses the point.

    Surely IRD could have a page where you can log in, get a bank account number to pay into & a reference number of some sort, and then log on to your own banks internet banking (any bank in the world, not just NZ ones), and put a payment through, and its paid in NZ dollars?

    Can’t be that hard to do.

    As for Studylink, I agree trying to use there online thing is rediculous, I give up and just ring them, because why should I need to write down my password so I can figure out what the 6 letter is, and what the 12th letter of my pass phrase is. Seriously why is it so complicated? Do they think they’re the Reserve bank or something? It’s easier to log on to my internet banking, university details, and IRD than it is with studylink. Or is it all a plan to keep the staff numbers (call takers) & budget up?

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  10. jcuknz (689 comments) says:

    I take it that Bill is mildly slinging off at the low mental level and priorities of post graduates … else he and more so myself are of a different generation. I have put together several web pages but I find navigating around the average business/government/ local authority webpage an extremely frustrating exercise. I can only think that the webmasters are so bound up with the technicalities they loose track of what the page is for. It certainly shouldn’t be a monument to their creative genius, or an ego trip for those paying/authorising it. Then there are the folk in those organisations that are so sure that they have provided all the answers that they fail to include e-mail contact details … yuk!

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  11. grumpyoldhori (2,205 comments) says:

    Pay back student loans, damn when one listens to students one gets the feeling that they are owed a fat gift beyond what they are getting rather than a loan.
    Amusing that so few students have the drive and ability to work full time while doing a degree.
    Whoops, my mistake, students are owed a social life.

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  12. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,760 comments) says:

    If you’re heading off overseas with no intention of returning to work in New Zealand then why would you worry about paying off your student loan?

    It falls under the category of “Other people’s problems”.

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  13. Tauhei Notts (1,688 comments) says:

    OECD
    If a person who does not intend to return to N.Z. wants to pay off his student loan; then that person automatically becomes entitled to become a member of the Greens or the Labour Party. That person has the economic knowledge of a spastic sparrow.
    Key, English & Co are going to have do something about the idiotic interest free student loans. Making student loans interest free was the most imbecilic act of the Helen Clark regime. It is totally illogical.
    Interestingly I saw an analysis of whether to pay off a student loan early. I hope the algebra is not too difficult but it goes like this;
    Student Loan equals $A
    Three times $A equals $B
    Annual Income equals $X
    $X minus $30,000 equals $Y
    If $Y is higher than $B pay the loan off early with the discount.
    If $Y is lower than $B let the loan wait.
    If student loans were liable to interest such nefarious calculations would not be necessary. You would just pay the bastard off.
    Another thing on student loans; if a rich student loan borrower dies, the loan is waived so that his descendants get all of his dough. Imagine the chagrin when benevolent grandparents settled a grandson’s student loan seven weeks before the poor rascal was wiped out in a road accident.

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  14. Tuija (218 comments) says:

    That person has the economic knowledge of a spastic sparrow.

    If you are insinuating by the use of the word spastic that the sparrow is intellectually challenged the I shall have to take offence
    Why should a sparrow be tarred with the epithet spastic merely because it lacks knowledge ?

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  15. Pascal (1,187 comments) says:

    rolla:

    Yes its reasonably easy to pay if you live & work in NZ, but as English is actually talking about it being hard to pay from overseas, it misses the point.

    The information is there. The IRD has specific sections on their site devoted to helping people overseas pay it back with a number of payment options, including paying by credit card with no additional fees charged on that transaction. (Like the usual Westpac convenience fee)

    Are you saying that it is difficult to complete an online transaction using a credit card? Is that beyond a NZ educated student?

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  16. DingDing (2 comments) says:

    Look out before you repay your Student Loan!
    For my experience, from 2005 to 2008, Studylink paid total $15780 for me ( based on my invoices from university)but my loan principal is over $17700!
    Do not trust those officers.They are nasty.Every semester,I used to get a letter from Studylink warning me my student loan was expired, I must reapply; even my loan contract is one year time.If i did not reapply every semester,Studylink didnot pay, even my loan contract was not expired.And i was fined for late payment by university.

    Look out before you repay your loan,especially you are overseas.

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