Young on Key/Goff

June 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm by David Farrar

Audrey Young blogs:

One politician was bound to be deeply embarrassed today, or . One would be right and one would be wrong. And the answer is that is wrong.

The Prime Minister and Opposition Leader have been publicly disputing what was said in their private conversation on May 6 about text and phone messages from to a Labour woman activist (that stopped on February 23).

Goff insisted his version was more accurate because immediately after the call he had written a file note from the scribbles he had taken during the conversation.

The file note was headed 9.45 – 9.55 pm. Key dismissed that at his post cabinet press conference yesterday saying “that can’t be right because I got off the plane at 10 pm.” Phil Goff has just retrieved his own phone records of the call made from his desk at Parliament to Key’s cellphone. The call started at 21.49 (11 minutes to 10 pm) and lasted 8 minutes and 30s. That means that Goff is substantially correct.

Yep. I assumed Key’s insistence was based on checking records. He shouldn’t shoot from the hip on details like this – especially considering it wasn’t a cruical detail, but it now becomes a credibility issue. Definitely an own goal.

Young however notes:

Key had the moral high ground on this issue last week. His willingness to meet the woman complainant only after she has show the texts and phone logs to his chief of staff is entirely reasonable.Labour’s stalling tactics have looked as though they know they don’t have a solid case but want to spin it out for as long as possible.

Absolutely. Labour are not interested in actually helping the complainant – just using her not for political point scoring.

That accords with his own file note which says the contact from Worth to the woman was “verging on sexual harassment.” And he acknowledged to me this morning that he has not even seen the woman’s responses at any time let alone asked to see them.

I would have thought one would have asked to see all text messages in and out.

But whatever holes there are in Goff’s case at present, Key has just given him a leg up to seize the moral high ground.

Yep. As I said – it was an own goal.

However let us not lose focus on the text messages. Richard Worth’s future may hang on them. It is time to stop messing about, and pass them onto the PM’s Chief of Staff. There is really no excuse for not doing so after all the complaining and publicity.

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20 Responses to “Young on Key/Goff”

  1. sonic (2,818 comments) says:

    So is key a liar or merely an idiot?

    As for “political point scoring” what else was your little campaign against Benson-Pope?

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  2. Richard Hurst (817 comments) says:

    There is only one thing in this entire pathetic matter which is of any relevance and that is Richard Worth possibly offering jobs on publicly funded boards/agencies in exchange for sexual favors. This is corruption, abuse of his office and a betrayal of the National party as a whole, voters and taxpayers if true. He’s been booted out of cabinet by Key and I suspect soon out of Parliament- good, problem solved.

    It is vapid irrelevance worrying about when Goff called Key.

    P.S It doesn’t reflect well on the Labour party in general that their activists are displaying utter disloyalty to the party by going around National party ministers sniffing for jobs on publicly funded boards/agencies. Assuming of course this isn’t an elaborate sting operation by the Labour party in a continuance of their dirty politics in the 2008 election.

    Whatever the case Wellington is a city of whores- of one sort or another.

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  3. Tom Semmens (79 comments) says:

    For goodness sake Mr Key!!!

    Basic political PR – Be honest, state your case and JUST TELL THE FREAKING TRUTH!

    Somehow or another John Key has managed to turn this whole sorry saga into an unflattering soap opera about himself.

    All John Key had to do was stand up and say he had stood down (not fired) Worth as a result of a police complaint around unsavoury behaviour. Rather than bring up the Goff complaint he should have said nothing. Then if Goff raised the subject, say he didn’t mention it to protect her, but now it was out there say in hindsight he should of looked into it faar more thoroughly and arrange a meeting with the woman to apologise to her directly, thus making him look noble and bi-partisan all at once.

    Now the whole drama has got a whole new set of legs and everyone is thinking the “Slippery Key” meme again.

    John Key’s stupidity doesn’t bother me in the slightest, but if I were a National supporter I’d be tearing my hair out about now.

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  4. Nigel7 (13 comments) says:

    God damn it this whole saga is just a pathetic beat up now. Is there not more important issues to discuss and debate by our leaders and media? I feel like I’m living in a lunatic asylum.

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  5. Countess of Cleavage (29 comments) says:

    never mind Bill English is there to rescue the party, just I wish he would get some botox. Just imagine if Don had been around when all these questions of marital impropriety are being aired. Nicky Hagar we cant thank you enough.

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  6. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I’m with Nigel7, for fucks sake the country has a multitude of problems and all we get is he said, he said, she said. They sound like my kids having a set to. If I was JK I would have told old Philin to get a life, not very helpful I know but JK is playing into a increasingly desperate and irrelevant lefts hands. Ignore the bastards, they hate that.

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  7. Countess of Cleavage (29 comments) says:

    We need to call off the hunt. Its one thing for the hounds to be baying for that fox Goff and us calling Talley Ho but it isnt going to plan.

    But just like it happened to me, the hounds got the scent of my precious Foo Foo and just in time I whisked her into the back seat of the Rolls, with all the hounds slobbering over the glass.
    I have heard on the Remuera bush telegraph that Dickie Worth will be fronting tout suite to give the hounds a fresh scent and prevent them from bringing down Foo Foo , I mean Johnny

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  8. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    Goofy is enjoying the limelight, the media aren’t listening to him on anything else so I guess he has nothing to lose.
    At the end of the day it’s all a total waste of time.

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  9. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    This all a big pile of the steamy brown stuff…… Surely there is more important topics to discuss in the media, heavens to morgatroid, it is boring…

    So what John Key got the time wrong, it is not the main guts here, Key has handled this well. Goofy Goff looks like a total twot….

    Move on, next topic…. if Worth has hidden the salami, the police will sniff it out and he will get his dews…. Let it go…

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  10. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    Those MP’s at the forefront of this sorry saga have shown thier true colours. A pack of fucking lying bastards. But we knew that already. Where’s the fucking tax cut John, where’s the get tough on welfare John, where’s the scrapping of middle class welfare John, where’s the making students pay interest on thier student loans John.
    We voted National and got Labour. The only National politician I respect these days is Melissa Lee.

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  11. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Audry Young’s editorials are about as interesting as New Idea’s or Woman’s Weekly. Key fired the guy as minister. New Zealand has more important problems to face than this small episode compared to Goff (Helen Clark) government. Goff supported a known liar and socialist. Yet he can stand there and accuse Key for something Key took care of last week, or two weeks ago. No, this is a Tony Veitch syndrome. It is getting out of hand and the news is reveling in it because they don’t like National.

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  12. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    Jack – When has the media ever not made love to Labour ????????????????

    Murray – Will only reply to your comment of which is kind of off topic. How the fuck can John Key give a tax cut when the books he took over were down in the deep dark soggy depths of a long drop, again thank you Labour…..

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  13. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    Hey wingnuts

    Welcome to power.

    Labour was put through all sorts of crap like what a Minister may have done 20 years ago as a School teacher. And you chose to jump up and down on his response like it mattered.

    Human frailities do not matter. According to the rules you have set everyone has to be perfect all of the time.

    And guess what. Your lot is perfect less of the time than our lot were.

    Key should not have said what he did. It was lazy and was going to be checked up and he shows signs of major fatigue. You should acknowledge Helen’s contribution and her composure and professionalism. She was way way better than the current incumbent.

    And you should acknowledge that Phil Goff is streets ahead of JK and it will only get worse for you.

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  14. Crusader (298 comments) says:

    Phil Goff is pretty pathetic.
    The world economy is in meltdown, and National is fighting a rearguard action to rescue NZ from the hole that the Clark/Cullen government left us in. Meanwhile swine flu is spreading and North Korea and Iran are making progress to getting nukes.
    And Goff is concerned about the exact time a phone call was made.
    Just pathetic.

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  15. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    MickyS – Phil Goff is an oxygen thief, a pathetic one at that…….. Our pathetic media makes it worse, look whats happening in the world at present and what is in every news report. The time a phone call was made… Goff is a shocker, this happened months ago, he is trying to milk it for all it is worth, and very few of the population give a dam..

    These errors that you point to are minor in the scheme of things, at least he is human and shows some humility.

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  16. mike12 (183 comments) says:

    “And you should acknowledge that Phil Goff is streets ahead of JK”

    Up till this bit I thought that was a serious post. Mick I really hope like hell they hold on to Goof until 2011

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  17. starboard (2,495 comments) says:

    “Where’s the fucking tax cut John, where’s the get tough on welfare John, where’s the scrapping of middle class welfare John, where’s the making students pay interest on thier student loans John.”

    ..as much as I hate to..Id have to agree..c’mon JK start sortin out welfare..teenage baby factories…dpb etc..

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  18. starboard (2,495 comments) says:

    “And you should acknowledge that Phil Goff is streets ahead of JK and it will only get worse for you”

    ..wanker…

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  19. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Whafe, it is very frustrating about the news media but unfortunately the average person believes this stuff. Gosh, if only the news weren’t union, then you would see Goff go down in flames. Oh well, perhaps the public will catch on and stop supporting these gossip columnist like Audrey and start to look for what is important.

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  20. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    Jack – hear you on the media, it is scary that the vast number of the population believes this crap…

    And into it again this morning, news is syaing that Goff is allowing a compromise for the information to come forward etc etc… What a yawn.

    Goff give it a break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The men in blue are onto it in going through the complaints, Worth is more or less gone, if he did hide the salami it will be his most expensive salami hiding venture yet, its cost him his political career, if in fact he had one…..

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