911 is merely a portal, it opens up lots of things, like this possible explanation of the recent Chinese riots. Of course, keep looking at Popular Mechanics as well, just make sure it’s not the only thing you look at.

http://www.ae911truth.org/ is one of the better sites for those with open minds. There’s a free vid on the left, well worthwhile.

Some breads only is way to go

The Bread Bakers choice of adding Folic Acid to some breads only is the obvious and sensible way to go about this. It should still placate the idiots in Australia – since when does bread made in NZ get sold in Oz?. Safety of the population majority has to be at the forefront.

folic acid

key needs to move swiftly to stem the damage done by kate wilkinson in her q & a interview!!
we want a government that is in control to repair the damage done by 9 years of cullen/clark incompentence! not one that is controlled by beauracrats!
the public service has been stacked with “lefties” and a prime mission of our new govt must be to weed them out !!

“Shunda, they did it 400 or 600 times in the 12 months preceeding 911. Within 10 mins.

That was standard operating procedure.”

Reid really should read the wikipedia page – it is a good compilation of refuting of BS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/911_conspiracy_theories#Main_issues

In reality, it is neither quick nor easy to locate and intercept a plane behaving erratically. The hijackers turned off or disabled the onboard radar transponders. Without these transponder signals to identify the airplanes, the hijacked airplanes would have been only blips among 4,500 other blips on NORAD’S radar screens, making them very difficult to track.[47][48]

In fact, only 14 fighter jets were on alert in the contiguous 48 states on 9/11. There was no automated method for the civilian air traffic controllers to alert NORAD. “They had to pick up the phone and literally dial us,” says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. According to Popular Mechanics,[48]

You mean Hamas and Hezbollah? Since when are they “zionist”?

“If one was a conspiracy theorist which of course I’m not,”

Oh lol.

Zionists, neocons, jews – they’re all the same to reid the cleverclogs who knows what we don’t.

I have never ever seen any evidence of any kind of cartel that would engineer any of the events you mention. If there ever was such evidence it would be splashed throughout haaretz, J-Post and Yedioth Ahronoth, as all other Israeli + Jewish scandals quickly are. And Israelis would be furious – as they were with Rabin’s murder.

The definition of Zionism that I would most closely define would be covered something like this: http://www.zionism-israel.com/zionism_definitions.htm

Your definition of zionism appears to be more closely aligned with the protocols of the elders of zion – a fraudulent piece of anti-semitic literarture.

Shunda, they did it 400 or 600 times in the 12 months preceeding 911. Within 10 mins.

That was standard operating procedure.

Thought you would have known that.

“Who are Zionists? Oh – you mean the Jews.”

Oh no, Tim. Oh no. Whyever would you imagine I’d conflate the two? What a big silly you are. The zionists are the people who murdered Rabin, the people who destroyed the IDF’s reputation through engineering a war that ended in defeat in Lebanon, the people who destroyed Israel’s global reputation by engineering the Gaza conflict. If one was a conspiracy theorist which of course I’m not, one would also say that they are the people who took out Sharon because he refused to go into Lebanon because he knew it was a bad idea. Those are the zionists.

The rest of your post really does indicate you have CONFLATED zionists and Jews, which is the distinction that the question in my provocative 11:19 was all about. Here it is again:

Question: do you think that zionists want to destroy Israel or are protecting the interests of the Israeli people?

Now Tim, seriously, I know from past contacts you are a seriously patriotic Israeli, but until you stop pretending that in order to be a friend of the Jewish people I need to be a friend of the zionists, you and I are never going to agree. If you can’t make that distinction then fine. However, if you can, and I think you can, then let’s make a better attempt to understand where each other is coming from and I think thereby we can actually make some useful headway because I sense you have an understanding which I don’t and which I’d like to understand. As I’ve said before, I am for the Jewish people but their govt which is zionist, really doesn’t serve their interests.

Tom’s posts from 2003 as I said were from a formative period and while I’ve grown in understanding from there I don’t rescind those views. You need to look at the distinction I make between the Jewish people and zionists to appreciate that.

And I think the American people and govt were horrified at how vulnerable they really were. In reality reid, you can not scramble fighter jets every time a passenger jet deviates off coarse, you also can’t just start shooting down planes full of innocent people based on a hunch.
Bureaucracy moves too slow to stop radicals killing themselves and others as it’s happening, they can only try and make rules to stop future attacks.

Lets just analyse your statements reid .. this is great – you are starting to rant

“Zionists really really stink. They’re arseholes.”

Who are Zionists? Oh – you mean the Jews. Yep. OK so you don’t like the Jews…

So do the Jews want to destroy Israel? Well clearly since:

a) They have nowhere else to go. [Clearly by your language you'd be p*ssed if some zionist a-hole comes to live next to you]
b) They are attached to the land … well hey, what drew them there in the first place? Oh yeah, they’d been praying to it for 2000 odd years
c) Nobody else likes them living there, but probably wouldn’t like them living anywhere else (this is pretty similar to point a + b) – reminds me of the Yiddush Policemans union by Michael Chabon

Then no, I don’t think they want to destroy Israel, cos then they’d have nowhere to live. Pretty simple, huh?

Hey Hurf, I don’t give a fuck what you think. I know that my understanding explains a whole hell of a lot about the world today and that’s proved by both predictive accuracy in terms of what’s happening next and also in after the fact facts which I suspected beforehand that are subsequently revealed.

I know that 911 was an important historical event that I rarely pay any attention to these days, which set me up to understand a whole spectrum of stuff that I never even saw before.

If you don’t want to play in that space, that’s your choice and I don’t care. It’s a shame in that you live in ignorance. You don’t know you do, but you do.

Good evening to you all.

If anyone ever wants information, feel free to email me anytime. I think my real email is on my profile.

think most people use cause and effect to come to the conclusion that 911 was done by a bunch of pissed off Muslims. There is no conspiracy, it was an act of hatred towards America by enemies of America. It’s not as if we haven’t already seen a multitude of other such events by these people before.

Oh no question Shunda, there was motive. Question is, they executed maneuvers in extremely well-guarded airspace that in normal circumstances resulted in fighter scrambles within minutes and yet, three times that day, nothing happened, for hours.

That’s just one of the many many many questions that haven’t been fully and I mean fully explored. Sure, Dan Rather has done a piece on it for the useful idiots, but you’re not one of those, are you? I know you’re not.

“Israel should be proud of its military which trained Georgian soldiers” – Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili

lol que ¿

Well apparently they think they exist, Hurf Durf. Perhaps they don’t care enough about what you think. Perhaps you should go and explain to them the situation, as you see it.

Hows about I call them Palestinians until you let me know otherwise?

I’d really like an answer to that, too, Tim.

I think most people use cause and effect to come to the conclusion that 911 was done by a bunch of pissed off Muslims.
There is no conspiracy, it was an act of hatred towards America by enemies of America.
It’s not as if we haven’t already seen a multitude of other such events by these people before.

“Palestinians” don’t actually exist. They are Jordanians. Or, they would be if Jordan cared enough about them enough to not make them political pawns, same with Egypt.

Everyone knows “Palestine” wouldn’t be a viable state anyway. “Palestinians” as a whole are too deranged and childlike to be able to function sensibly and rationally. Israel knows this, so do I, as a matter of fact.

So tell me Tim where’s your evidence that:

it wasn’t the Mossad who did the cemetary. Oh, that’s right, I didn’t say it was in the first place, did I. Bzzzzt.

And please please please Tom, please try to tell me that the IDF wasn’t in Georgia. Go on.

My favourite is you blaming the Jews … oh I mean the Mossad for desecrating the cemetary in Wellington. And it was just like Tom Hunter quote “I’m not sure, but does anybody find it suspicious that ….”

Another example was blaming Israel for Russia invading Georgia. Gold.