Yeah well unless you’ve never voted the jokes on you, for as far as I know, there’s been laws against growing tobacco supported by all parties, for yonks.

This anti-emetic property makes canabis dangerous “in the field” because it allows young people, in particular, to drink huge amounts of alcohol (spirits in particular) without the vomit reflex kicking in to protect them from alcohol poisoning.

But in the hospital ward that is a potent and useful effect.

I also do not understand the argument that we cannot use marijuana for medical purposes because it is also an illegal drug.

When I had my aortic dissection event (which is terribly painful) I was only able to get any sleep because of my morphine injections.

They were wonderful but I did not rush out of hospital looking for a fix.

I can see the attraction. Quite apart from the pain relief morphine makes everything look radiant and beautiful. The nurses used to bung it in then line up at the end of the bed and enjoy watching my face as my mind converted these three rather ordinary looking young women into the most beautiful women in the world. It’s nice to spread some joy around!

Though that’s not what he said, is it?

..and this able to provide real relief for suffering new zealanders..

..you are happy with this outcome..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

“Happy” is not the right word, Ecstatic would be a better description.

As we heard last night Phool there are many other drugs available that can alleviate the “suffering” these people feel.

And please, I do not believe for one moment that 63% want to legalise dope.

It’s a question of principle.

Should people be able to live their lives how they want to live them, or should the nanny state restrict your freedom to do what you like with your body for your own good?

This story translates to NZ quite easily.

Britain is facing a reposession timebomb, Vince Cable warned yesterday.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/mortgages/5700963/Just-six-families-helped-by-government-Mortgage-Rescue-Scheme.html

Hey expat – with a link that long I thought Philu had hacked your user account.

phil, the real issue is, the MP have v limited ammo, and where should they best take a stand..”

two facts:

this was a conscience vote..

..and it was only to move the bill to the select committee stage..

..what ‘stand’..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

Britain is facing a reposession timebomb, Vince Cable warned yesterday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/mortgages/5700963/Just-six-families-helped-by-government-Mortgage-Rescue-Scheme.html

I’m thankful that no truly democratic government could ever countenance such a ludicrous proposition. If there is any determination for the child to be represented, teach them to wield a crayon in the voting booth, and let them simply be influenced by their parents.

I’d have loved to vote McGillicuddy Serious when I was 12 – I LOVED their ads. At high school, most of the guys I spoke to expressed similar desires. Had anybody asked me back then whether I believed that as a human being I should be entitled to a vote, I imagine I’d have said “hell yeah”. Had anybody asked me whether I’d be willing for my parents to take that entitlement and vote for fuddy duddy stuffy National, I’d have been pissed out of my brain.

As it happens, I don’t believe children or teenagers should have a vote. But if they did? I sure as hell don’t think adults should be allowed to take that vote for them. Nobody ever should take a vote for somebody else.

I would have thought you of all people would be in support of traditional families getting disproportional levels of representation in the election?

You didn’t actually notice the evidence I presented that Booze is 4 TIMES as dangerous as pot. DID you….

Which should be illegal again?

BJ

What has been shown is that the ANTI-cannabis forces are basically a “cult” with no more scientific or medical credibility than witch doctors or the makers of “reefer madness”. In time the dinosaurs died off, unfortunately the same is not true of idiots, so I have no real hope that parliament will actually improve on this performance anytime soon.

I have sort-of enjoyed visiting, but I don’t expect to stay. Some folks here seemed to enjoy the information seeing the light of day and the arguments being made. Others.. well they just don’t change no matter what the facts are or how politely things are phrased or powerful the evidence is… a group overrepresented in parliament no matter which party is in power.

respectfully
BJ

Unfortunately, vis-a-vis the governing party, they’re not in the same “Most Favoured Nation” position that ACT occupies which gives ACT much more actual influence notwithstanding their actual nominal power.

So given that, if you were the MP, with the portfolios they have the granting of which has burned some of their credit, how would you play your remaining cards?

..shows how far out of touch with the voters most mp’s are..

..that and they are ‘scared’..

the one that surprised me tho’..was the maori party..

..when so many maori die from diabetes..

..and cannabis is the only relief for the excruciating pins & needles in physical extremeties..

..suffered in the final stages of that miserable death..

..and the maori party says..’no..!..our people cannot have that medicine..!’..(!)

..it’s a major ‘for shame..!’..for them..

..and all those other m.p.’s who voted for their fellow citizens to ‘just suffer!’..

..parliaments’ worst hour..for quite some time..

phil(whoar.co.nz)