Comments on: General Debate 31 July 2009 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:18:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: James http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591315 James Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:13:06 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591315 Bok and Angus....you are ignorant idiots.....and probably need someone toi wipe your bums and tuck you in at night as it seems you are not capable pof doing so yourselves going by your statements. Bok and Angus….you are ignorant idiots…..and probably need someone toi wipe your bums and tuck you in at night as it seems you are not capable pof doing so yourselves going by your statements.

]]> By: kiwipolemicist http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591261 kiwipolemicist Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:27:03 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591261 Bok and Angus: I have written a response to your comments: http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/woman-kills-son-whilst-stoned-but-drugs-are-a-victimless-crime/ Bok and Angus:

I have written a response to your comments:
http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/woman-kills-son-whilst-stoned-but-drugs-are-a-victimless-crime/

]]> By: Angus http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591169 Angus Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:37:30 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591169 Bok, true. Much of the libertarian doctrine only applies in a Robinson Crusoe type situation. (before companion Friday shows up at least] Bok, true. Much of the libertarian doctrine only applies in a Robinson Crusoe type situation. (before companion Friday shows up at least]

]]> By: Bok http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591167 Bok Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:30:43 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591167 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10587854 Yep Libertarians.. it is a victimless crime.... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10587854
Yep Libertarians.. it is a victimless crime….

]]> By: nickb http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591138 nickb Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:18:27 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591138 Haha ok phil will do. Is anyone is disgusted by Roger Douglas's behaviour as I am? I know you will be phil. What a prat. Has been in parliament half of his working life and is straight back in the trough after 6months of Parliament. Haha ok phil will do.
Is anyone is disgusted by Roger Douglas’s behaviour as I am?
I know you will be phil.
What a prat. Has been in parliament half of his working life and is straight back in the trough after 6months of Parliament.

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591137 philu Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:15:03 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591137 nah nic..! like most others..still looking/searching.. (tho' i have worked out..that we shouldn't eat other animals.. you can take that as a 'given'..eh..?..) phil(whoar.co.nz) nah nic..!

like most others..still looking/searching..

(tho’ i have worked out..that we shouldn’t eat other animals..

you can take that as a ‘given’..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: nickb http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591129 nickb Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:45:04 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591129 So got an answer yet phil? So got an answer yet phil?

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591127 philu Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:40:59 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591127 i see you've taken a very simplistic.one-dimensional/rightwing reading of that..stuffed.. ..can't see the ideas..for the words.. ..eh..? it's obvious that both you..and nic.. ..are part of the problem.. ..eh..? phil(whoar.co.nz) i see you’ve taken a very simplistic.one-dimensional/rightwing reading of that..stuffed..

..can’t see the ideas..for the words..

..eh..?

it’s obvious that both you..and nic..

..are part of the problem..

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: nickb http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591123 nickb Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:30:22 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591123 We have internalized the awful ethic of corporatism — one built around the cult of the self and consumption as an inner compulsion — – to believe that living is about our own advancement .. and our own happiness at the expense of others. What does that sound like to me phil? Does a person having 38% of their wages stolen to pay for your living make you seem to feel like you are a "cult of the self"? Phil, you still havne't answered why you think you are entitled to live off the backs of others, even when 2 parent families with more kids than you can still both work 40+ hours. Your excuse for this fascinates me, as does your continual ducking of an answer- come on, you're not normally short for a word We have internalized the awful ethic of corporatism — one built around the cult of the self and consumption as an inner compulsion —

– to believe that living is about our own advancement .. and our own happiness at the expense of others.

What does that sound like to me phil?
Does a person having 38% of their wages stolen to pay for your living make you seem to feel like you are a “cult of the self”?

Phil, you still havne’t answered why you think you are entitled to live off the backs of others, even when 2 parent families with more kids than you can still both work 40+ hours. Your excuse for this fascinates me, as does your continual ducking of an answer- come on, you’re not normally short for a word

]]> By: getstaffed http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591120 getstaffed Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:24:31 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591120 <blockquote>We have shifted from a culture of production to a culture of consumption</blockquote> Oh yes, fewer people are producing (generating tax revenue), and more - like you phil - are mindlessly and selfishly consuming. <blockquote>... one built around the cult of the self </blockquote> That's rich, coming from the most selfish person posting here. Ah, why bother. Your worthless diatribe is nothing more than tired, drug-induced, anti-establishment drivel. Again. Kaya: Agree :)

We have shifted from a culture of production to a culture of consumption

Oh yes, fewer people are producing (generating tax revenue), and more – like you phil – are mindlessly and selfishly consuming.

… one built around the cult of the self

That’s rich, coming from the most selfish person posting here.

Ah, why bother. Your worthless diatribe is nothing more than tired, drug-induced, anti-establishment drivel. Again.

Kaya: Agree :)

]]> By: hubris http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591117 hubris Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:21:47 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591117 <i>Absolutely brilliant!</i> Yeah, absolutely awesome movie :) Absolutely brilliant!

Yeah, absolutely awesome movie :)

]]> By: kaya http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591111 kaya Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:11:09 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591111 Just watched the greatest swordfight in the history of the cinema for the first time in around a year. Mind you, I've watched it over 200 times!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3gfFVmw0kA&feature=related Absolutely brilliant! Just watched the greatest swordfight in the history of the cinema for the first time in around a year. Mind you, I’ve watched it over 200 times!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3gfFVmw0kA&feature=related

Absolutely brilliant!

]]> By: nickb http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591109 nickb Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:05:45 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591109 I hate WFF. It has turned the nations middle class into a bunch of Phil U's, more more more..... Our nations middle class are now mostly state beneficiaries. Let these people keep their money in the first place FFS, make private schooling/medical care tax deductible... And kick serial bludgers off the beneift I hate WFF.
It has turned the nations middle class into a bunch of Phil U’s, more more more…..
Our nations middle class are now mostly state beneficiaries.

Let these people keep their money in the first place FFS, make private schooling/medical care tax deductible…

And kick serial bludgers off the beneift

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591105 philu Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:54:33 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591105 anyway..as an attempt to instigate some discourse.. this is kinda interesting.. http://whoar.co.nz/2009/the-rise-of-gonzo-porn-is-the-latest-sign-of-americas-cultural-apocalypse/ "..The cultural embrace of illusion, and the celebrity culture that has risen up around it.. .. have accompanied the awful hollowing out of the state. We have shifted from a culture of production to a culture of consumption. We have been sold a system of casino capitalism, with its complicated and unregulated deals of turning debt into magical assets.. .. to create fictional wealth for us .. and vast wealth for our elite. We have internalized the awful ethic of corporatism — one built around the cult of the self and consumption as an inner compulsion — – to believe that living is about our own advancement .. and our own happiness at the expense of others. Corporations, behind the smoke screen, have ruthlessly dismantled and destroyed our manufacturing base .. and impoverished our working class. The free market became our god and government was taken hostage by corporations.. .. the same corporations that entice us daily with illusions though the mass media, the entertainment industry and popular culture. The more we sever ourselves from a literate, print-based world, a world of complexity and nuance, a world of ideas. .. for one informed by comforting, reassuring images, fantasies, slogans .. and a celebration of violence .. ..the more we implode.." phil(whoar.co.nz) anyway..as an attempt to instigate some discourse..

this is kinda interesting..

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/the-rise-of-gonzo-porn-is-the-latest-sign-of-americas-cultural-apocalypse/

“..The cultural embrace of illusion, and the celebrity culture that has risen up around it..

.. have accompanied the awful hollowing out of the state.

We have shifted from a culture of production to a culture of consumption.

We have been sold a system of casino capitalism, with its complicated and unregulated deals of turning debt into magical assets..

.. to create fictional wealth for us .. and vast wealth for our elite.

We have internalized the awful ethic of corporatism — one built around the cult of the self and consumption as an inner compulsion —

– to believe that living is about our own advancement .. and our own happiness at the expense of others.

Corporations, behind the smoke screen, have ruthlessly dismantled and destroyed our manufacturing base .. and impoverished our working class.

The free market became our god and government was taken hostage by corporations..

.. the same corporations that entice us daily with illusions though the mass media, the entertainment industry and popular culture.

The more we sever ourselves from a literate, print-based world, a world of complexity and nuance, a world of ideas.

.. for one informed by comforting, reassuring images, fantasies, slogans .. and a celebration of violence ..

..the more we implode..”

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: Hurf Durf http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591102 Hurf Durf Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:45:20 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591102 <i>i hate to break it to you.. ..but its’ moment is nigh..</i> Oh God, not again. brb, joining the cops to crack some naive dopesmoking dreadlocked Green-voting skulls. i hate to break it to you..

..but its’ moment is nigh..

Oh God, not again.

brb, joining the cops to crack some naive dopesmoking dreadlocked Green-voting skulls.

]]> By: Steve http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591098 Steve Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:38:47 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591098 Phool, How money did you get today? how much of our money did you spend? did you save some? You really are a joke Phool,
How money did you get today? how much of our money did you spend? did you save some?
You really are a joke

]]> By: side show bob http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591096 side show bob Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:32:43 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591096 Sorry Philu have not dispatched anything today but sent 5 calves to their maker via the bobby calf truck yesterday. Spring is such a lovely time of year, so much mayhem, so much new life. Just been out to check the cows and 10 new calves, oh joy, plenty of work tomorrow and I suppose it will bloody rain, such is life. Sorry Philu have not dispatched anything today but sent 5 calves to their maker via the bobby calf truck yesterday. Spring is such a lovely time of year, so much mayhem, so much new life. Just been out to check the cows and 10 new calves, oh joy, plenty of work tomorrow and I suppose it will bloody rain, such is life.

]]> By: Bryan Spondre aka The Link Whore http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591070 Bryan Spondre aka The Link Whore Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:31:45 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591070 "More must be done to expose the constant stream of lies the left use to advance their agenda." Keep up the good work Russell, the good people of Tauranga must be protected from their own ignorance and you Mr Fletcher are just the man to do it. “More must be done to expose the constant stream of lies the left use to advance their agenda.”

Keep up the good work Russell, the good people of Tauranga must be protected from their own ignorance and you Mr Fletcher are just the man to do it.

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591069 philu Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:28:11 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591069 "..I hate to break it to you but the Hippie movement is so outdated.." i hate to break it to you.. ..but its' moment is nigh.. (and weren't/aren't they 'right' about so many things..?..eh..?.. .esp the later/new generation vegan/low-footprint model..eh..?) i have the utmost respect for them..as models of how to live without trashing/thrashing the planet.. ..but the reactionary-rightwing dosen't give a flying fuck about ' trashing/thrashing the planet'.. eh..? ..as long as there is a buck to be made.. ..eh..? (step right on up..!..bloody-hands-bob..!..eh..?..) phil(whoar.co.nz) “..I hate to break it to you but the Hippie movement is so outdated..”

i hate to break it to you..

..but its’ moment is nigh..

(and weren’t/aren’t they ‘right’ about so many things..?..eh..?..

.esp the later/new generation vegan/low-footprint model..eh..?)

i have the utmost respect for them..as models of how to live without trashing/thrashing the planet..

..but the reactionary-rightwing dosen’t give a flying fuck about ‘ trashing/thrashing the planet’..

eh..?

..as long as there is a buck to be made..

..eh..?

(step right on up..!..bloody-hands-bob..!..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/general_debate_31_july_2009.html#comment-591065 philu Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:20:09 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=35226#comment-591065 can you multi-vote..? what fucken use is that then..? it renders any result a total fantasy.. phil(whoar.co.nz) can you multi-vote..?

what fucken use is that then..?

it renders any result a total fantasy..

phil(whoar.co.nz)

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