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July 21, 2009 2:00pm by David Farrar

Labour’s pixies

The headline on Stuff:

‘There are no pixies printing cash’ Key tells Labour

Says it all really.

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toad

Yeah, its a bit like women will just have to put up with lower wages and salaries than men because, can’t you see, we’re in a recession.
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July 21, 2009 2:03pm
village idiot

He’s such a wag, the John Key. No pixies!!!!
Chuckle, chuckle, chuck…
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July 21, 2009 2:03pm
MyNameIsJack

Or we can’t afford hip replacements because we have to let the SAS play with their toys in Afghanistan.

[DPF: You think the SAS go to Afghanistan to play? Wow wish we had you during WWII complaining about the troops paying in Germany]
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July 21, 2009 2:05pm
Chris_C

Yes there are! The quantitative easing pixies! Haven’t they reached NZ yet?

Oh. Never mind. Another couple of quarters in recession, I’m sure they’ll be here like John and Bill are a couple of elderly shoemakers and the economy is made out of shoes. Or something.
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July 21, 2009 2:07pm
Le Grande Fromage

Well said Jack. You put forward a good argument for privatising both health care and the army.
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July 21, 2009 2:08pm
village idiot

(John and Bill are a couple of elderly shoemakers)

Then let’s give them the boot!
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July 21, 2009 2:09pm
Doug

MyNameIsJack

Or we can’t afford hip replacements because we bought a useless Railway more like.
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July 21, 2009 2:10pm
Bok

That just goes to show what you know about labour politics. You are just a stupid tory, nasty money grabbing piece of work. If you had paid any attention in the last 9 years you would have seen that there is a bottomless pit of money available for all sorts of things… like hip hop research. (The fundamental Aotearoa music form that has carried our traditions for the last 1000, no ahm 100, sorry 10 ah no 4 years… rather than hip replacement..(tory luxury… or dialyses … he was a white bastards anyway…)

Your elitist view that people should only be rewarded for effort just shows up your total lack of knowledge of things fiscal.

It really pisses me off that idiots such as yourself post these derogatory type posts after having had nearly a decade to study at the feet of the genius who knows more about money and finance than god. Jesus, Micheal Cullen showed you how to stitch up the Aussies financially by paying 6 times more than the train set he was buying was worth. Those fiscal fools never saw it coming…

And then him and Helen deftly managed to take 8 years of fat and turn it into ACC sawdust.

So stop pretending to know what you are talking about, and stop poking fun at Labour. And what would Key know about money any way.. he is just a self made rich prick who is being abandoned in droves at the polls…….
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July 21, 2009 2:14pm
Redbaiter

“‘There are no pixies printing cash’ Key tells Labour”

There are in the US. Just ask Obama.
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July 21, 2009 2:16pm
Bok

MNIJ
The one thing a person who just got caught stealing a cow should not do….
is to say how much they hate thieves…..

A little proverb from the east to be remembered by the Labourites..
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July 21, 2009 2:20pm
Tom Semmens

Lots of Pixies for private schools though, they are getting tens of millions more.

Lots of Pixies for John Key’s absurd cycleway, around fifty million of them.

Lots of Pixies for Don Brash, getting paid to tell us what we already know he is going to say.

Lots of Pixies, then, if it suits John Key.
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July 21, 2009 2:21pm
Bok

Tom
Do you use both hands?
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July 21, 2009 2:24pm
Bok

Village Idiot , the great joy in your life should be that you and Tom Semmens are spot on…
the only problem is that you are the only two who thinks so..( Phil u does not count because… no he just does not)
Have a look at the polls and realize that one of the biggest signs of madness s to howl a the moon to change it’s course…

Or maybe that is like a train set… right over the top of your head..
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July 21, 2009 2:29pm
Buggerlugs

# toad (1360) 4 10 Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 2:03 pm

Yeah, its a bit like women will just have to put up with lower wages and salaries than men because, can’t you see, we’re in a recession.

And that’s today’s issue is it toad? Cheers. And tomorrow from the Greens, we’ll have ‘Pigs – Would You Make Your Mother Live in a Crate?’ (mother in law, maybe…)
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July 21, 2009 2:35pm
Paul Williams

No pixies printing cash but there are Commissions who can magic-up productivity?

Now there’s an irony!
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July 21, 2009 2:39pm
Richard Hurst

I think Phil Goof may have finally gone mad. I just can’t believe Goof is actually demanding public money be given to couples because one of them loses their job while the other is still bringing in a wage. The dole was not designed as a way for middle class couples to pay off their mortgages! Goof wants to use public money to privately benefit a select group. To pay their bills for them so they can keep living large and beyond their means. The dole never was and should never be used for this kind of pork barrel, reckless, unfair policy.
On top of that it would cost at least $1 billion extra over the next 3 years which would have to be borrowed and interest paid on it by future taxpayers! Ye Gods!
If this is the best Labour can come up with then I think Labour really, really needs a new leader and soon.
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July 21, 2009 2:40pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

Red, they don’t have pixies in the US. They have little gollywogs.
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July 21, 2009 2:43pm
village idiot

That jolly fellow John Key. It will be a merry little meeting, between Mr Key and the mother of the first child born with a spinal deformity that could have been prevented by eating folated bread. There’ll be pixies everywhere and merry laughter. Mr Key will be bouncing from cloud to cloud. Cyclists will be cycling.
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July 21, 2009 2:47pm
xxx

Tom Semmens list may be largely fictional, but the premise is true. There are pixies when any government wants them. Not until the government stops giving money away to other countries and wasting it here at home, will I believe that they are in any way concerned about a recession.
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July 21, 2009 2:50pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

Paul W, it won’t be terribly hard to increase prosperity when you start from the low base left by your mates after nine years of slide towards the bottom of the world’s economic ladder. Just burn off a few thousand more media and policy advisors, get rid of a few more oligopolies, dump all the school teachers who cant read, write or count, sack all the news readers who have speech impediments, sell off 49% of all SOEs to Kiwis and bingo – it’s the white man’s magic..

Once the Maoris own half the means of production they’ll never ever vote Labour again.

(Somebody said that the other day and it the most intuitive comment there has been for some time.)
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July 21, 2009 2:52pm
Ross Miller

Tom Semmens … the $20m extra for the private school sector and the 50m for the cycleway = 70m.

Just how many $70m go into the $400m that your mob played over the top to an Oz Company for a broken down train set that will NEVER make a profit.

But even that doesn’t tell the whole story like for every pupil who transfers from the private school sector to the state school sector costs the taxpayer, on average, an additional additional $5k while the cycleway project will create private sector jobs.

And there are certainly no pixies to maintain a bloated public service which you would seen from the Treasury Report last night is riddled with waste, duplication of resources and inefficiency.

The list goes on and on and on yet clearly Labour is stuck in a pre-resession time warp where spending decisions are predicated on a ‘never mind the quality, feel the width’ type approach. The reality is that your mob couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

Labour voodoo economics are alive and well and worship at the feet of intellectual giants like Zimbo Gono who thought that printing money was the way forwardn to economic salvation. Cullen must be knashing his teeth in the knowledge that in the Labour Party the inmates have taken over the asylum.
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July 21, 2009 2:53pm
Doug

Labour are Leaderless and Rudderless.
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July 21, 2009 2:54pm
xxx

Just on the topic of Goff suggesting middle class welfare/mortgage repayment…

bit of an inefficient money go round but would it eventually amount to the lost tax cuts? Public Services would have to be cut to pay for it, but Average Joe Mortgage would be in a better position post recession. Forcing a situation where if the cut services were really that necessary, or wanted, private funds would have to be raised.

Oh my God, is Goff proposing privatisation by stealth?! Good for you, Phillip!
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July 21, 2009 2:54pm
Cerium

You’ve gotta admit, it was a very effective wee phrase.

Key seems to be able to come across as an ordinary person in an extraordinary position.
In comparison Goff seems to be trying very hard to do something he doesn’t know how to do.
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July 21, 2009 2:55pm
bchapman

Yeah well better we spend the money helping stimulate every one elses economy when the private prison money flows offshore to whoever wins the contract. Come to think of it, If we can keep locking up more and more people maybe those foreigners will employ everyone as prison guards.
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July 21, 2009 2:55pm
wreck1080

Many of Goffs ideas could have come straight from a Harry Potter story, and probably did.
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July 21, 2009 2:58pm
Paul Williams

Paul W, it won’t be terribly hard to increase prosperity when you start from the low base left by your mates after nine years of slide towards the bottom of the world’s economic ladder. Just burn off a few thousand more media and policy advisors, get rid of a few more oligopolies, dump all the school teachers who cant read, write or count, sack all the news readers who have speech impediments, sell off 49% of all SOEs to Kiwis and bingo – it’s the white man’s magic..

Once the Maoris own half the means of production they’ll never ever vote Labour again.

(Somebody said that the other day and it the most intuitive comment there has been for some time.)

Great, what targets will be set for Years 1, 2 and 3? I can’t wait for the anticipated improvement in real wages, GDP per person, labour participation etc. I wonder what the Commission will make of the policy of reducing funding for skills development, seems counter productive to me (and is inconsistent with approaches in the US, UK, Australia etc).
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July 21, 2009 3:07pm
Murray

I’m not suprised that Labour believes in pixies, they’re manned almost entirely by Noddys already.
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July 21, 2009 3:23pm
garethw

What happened to the pixies that printed out that extra $2.9BILLION in spending from their Budget in May?
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July 21, 2009 3:26pm
Murray

They’re blocking roadworks in the Waikato… no wait thats a different fictional animal isn’t it. One we’re not allowed to make fun of.
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July 21, 2009 3:28pm
adc

I wish JK did whip some money-printing pixies into action. It would ease the pressure on the NZD following the US lead. It’s creeping up too damn high.

Would be great for exporters, and there would be all this money floating around to pay for useless shite we don’t need.
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July 21, 2009 3:37pm
MyNameIsJack

Murray (3619) Vote: 0 0 Says:

July 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
They’re blocking roadworks in the Waikato… no wait thats a different fictional animal isn’t it. One we’re not allowed to make fun of.

What has the god of the juice got to do with the waikato?
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July 21, 2009 3:44pm
Murray

Tell you what if I want to have a discussion of any kind with you I’ll say hey dickhead first so you know I’m talking to you.
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July 21, 2009 3:54pm
MyNameIsJack

murray, if I want to hear from an arsehole, I’ll fart.
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July 21, 2009 4:00pm
unaha-closp

DPF you seem to forget the 40% Cap’n’Trade Fairy (not technically a pixie) that will doubtless provide a substantial (shortterm) boost to the Treasury.
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July 21, 2009 4:27pm
skyblue

The Pixies are currenty employed in Washington & London merrily printing away. They will be available again in 2012 after they have added their 6th round of zeros to the Greenback & Pound. Probably will come via Zimbabwe.
BTW Goff, fuck off and leave my wallet alone, you raped it more than a Mongrel Mob gang bang, it was a 9 year ordeal for the poor taxpayer on NZ.
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July 21, 2009 4:34pm
Hurf Durf

lol frog, village idiot and jackoff.

NZ will be a paradise with its 1.2% growth rate in late 2010 compared to the two year old recessions in the UK and US.
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July 21, 2009 4:42pm
Glutaemus Maximus

Just like the munchkins who are the Climate change marketeers, it is so obvious from selected comment above that

SOCIALISM IS A CULT.
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July 21, 2009 5:26pm
Komata

So Phil and his mates now want to catch the middle-class vote whom they have never bothered-about before – and have actively derided as part of the ‘class strugggle’ To even consider such a thing shows that they are evidently desparate.

A question though, that perhaps the red’s amongst us can answer:

Why was it that during the nine years of Labour’s power, Labour (Cullen especially) never gave any thought to this concept and also made very sure that the unemployed were actively discouraged from actually going onto the dole? The fact that there might actually be a genuine need wasn’t considered a valid reason!!

(Oh, but I forgot – they were in power weren’t they and Animal Farm was the socialists textbook).

And perhaps too, our labour readers who are old enough to remember could tell us how close Phil is in his adherance to the unemployment policies that helped get Mickey Savage into power?

Several genuine questions – so please be polite and constructive – name calling is SO unprofessional
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July 21, 2009 7:55pm
Brian Marshall

Phil Goff only a few days ago was saying how we shouldn’t have stopped the contributions to Kiwisaver and the Cullen Fund in responce to the Fitch rating downgrade warning. (which would have made all deficeits worse not better).
Now he wants to borrow even more money and spend it on helping those in need. Well I think that is a nice idea, but is wholely counter to what he said on Friday about trying to improve the fiscal deficeit.

So I’m not able to take anything he says seriously anymore and I’m wondering why aren’t the media, (mainstream) taking him to task? Are they economic muppets or something?
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July 21, 2009 8:54pm
Viking2

“There, but for the gift of God goes you”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/surviving-the-recession/news/article.cfm?c_id=1502812&objectid=10585853
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July 22, 2009 6:38am
expat

the coomie rent a crowd come out spilling dribble and bile – then snuffle off looking for gumint handouts.

f*ckwits.
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July 22, 2009 7:05am
expat

yes viking, I was refering to toad et al at the top of the post.
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July 22, 2009 7:11am
Murray

It would be the most intelligent thing to come out of you yet jackoff.
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July 22, 2009 8:24am

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