Newspaper coverage of the 2008 election

July 20th, 2009 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

does another of his fantastic summaries of a chapter of a book reviewing the 2008 election. This post is on how the newspapers covered the election.

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16 Responses to “Newspaper coverage of the 2008 election”

  1. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Lefties analysing lefties. Yeah, that’ll be worth something.

    Is this the same Janine Hayward who used a Greenpeace Aotearoa template for her submission to the Environment Ministry on Climate Change??

    And who recently worked for the Waitangi Tribunal?

    The same Janine Hayward who claims to know what is meant by the phrase ‘the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi”, and describes them thus- “the principle of active protection, the tribal right to self-regulation, the right of redress for past breaches, and the duty to consult.”

    Pfffft….

    The notion that NZ’s media did a professional unbiased and effective job of reporting on the issues of the 2008 election is an utter absurdity. One that only ivory tower university employed professionals unable to think outside the left wing academic paradigm could ever so guilelessly promote.

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  2. Jeff83 (745 comments) says:

    Have you considered Redbaiter that the mainstream newspapers write for their audience, which in New Zealand is generally centre right, not hard right authoritarian, i.e. you are the minority and your business will not keep them afloat. In the end most New Zealanders like some minor form of socalism, be it only the concept of public schools and basic healthcare. The idea of an unchecked capitalist society where the state only provided the armed forces and police would not be many’s cup of tea I would imagine, much like a heavy socialist society of rationing and heavy market restrictions only would appeal to a select group as well, who I would argue would be unlikely to buy main NZ newspapers either.

    If you actually read the methodology used it seemed pretty unbiased to me, based on party rather than fundamental political beliefs.

    I guess the simple fact is to you (and I imagine you agree to some extent) is that the media have no party to support except Act who are not currently a socialist party, because the National party are currently heavily in a centralist position, and the support for Act is by memory around 4% of which half most probably were voting on their controversal law and order policies.

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  3. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Jeff, you must think people have all the time in the world.

    There are so many misunderstood concepts, so many examples of rank ignorance and political imaturity in your post, it would take a thousand words to set you straight, and I don’t even have time for the few I’ve written anyway.

    Go get your brain widened, and then get a friggen grasp on reality for chrissakes.

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  4. Jeff83 (745 comments) says:

    Redbaiter your 6897 posts tend to show otherwise.

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  5. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Redbaiter your 6897 posts tend to show otherwise.”

    So how many years has that been over, and how many minutes have I spent on the average post. Interested to see how you did the maths.

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  6. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and of course..one of the major failures of the media..during the election campaign..

    ..was their unquestioning acceptance of the complete unadulterated horseshit that was the ‘economic predictions’..from treasury..

    ..and allan (‘the recession is over!’) bollard..

    ..y’know..!..this was jaw-dropping stuff..

    ..easily countered/questioned by any whose reading is wider than said media..

    the media allowed both labour and national to peddle that ‘there there..!..everything is ok !’ bullshit..

    ..with nary a question/demur..

    how could their performance/neglect have been worse..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  7. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Did ‘issue bias’ favour a particular party? Again the answer seems to be ‘no’.”

    Well, that’s just so scientific..!!!

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  8. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    They didn’t include your aggregator, phool.

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  9. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    sorry hurf..but now that i know you are a snotty-nosed 19 yr old student..

    ..i just laugh when i see yr moniker/alias..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  10. big bruv (13,734 comments) says:

    A 19 year old who will in the next five years contribute more to the NZ economy than you have done in your miserable 50 something years Phool.

    When will get “get” that you do not have the right to comment or be listened to by those who work, pay tax and contribute to our society, until you get off your junkie arse your opinion or ideas are not wanted nor are they valid.

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  11. Jeff83 (745 comments) says:

    Red in regards to how many years, I have no clue, guess you already know the answer to that. In regards to total time spent, if I was to test that my methodology I would employ would be crude, but in summary would be to take a sample say the last week and sum up number of posts and then the number of words in those posts. It would also I guess have to take into some sort of account a summary of the posts you have read in regards to your posts. Finally you would have a better idea of how long it takes you to post something.

    Could be interesting from a purely random point of view, but to be honest seems to much effort for not enough gain :)

    And Whoar wtf does someone’s age have to do with whether they can have an opinion. Seriously that attitude can go and f*** it self.

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  12. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    That’s nice, phool. At least it’s just the one person.

    For now, anyway. ;)

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  13. racer1 (352 comments) says:

    I’m happy for all of my taxes to go to paying PhilU’s benefit, so all you lot shut the fuck up, wankers.

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  14. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    jeff..some 48 hrs ago hurf was expressing a desire to put a bullet in my head..

    ..and to dump my body in the tasman..

    ..(he has a thing about dpb families..not sure why..)

    ..he is a silly boy..

    ..and given his extreme right politics..

    ..probably a rich-kid snotty-nosed youth..

    ..echoing/parroting his fathers self-inteest driven ‘beliefs’..

    ..what’s to respect..?

    surely the death threats are ‘enough’..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  15. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Phool, phool, you misunderstand. I didn’t express a desire, I merely stated that it would have been better for everyone if the government of the time had just disposed of you like one does a used tampon.

    And if families are now need to know info, my father was a carpenter who taught me to save my money so I wouldn’t have to go on a dole, and we wouldn’t have even begun to look at upper working class status if it weren’t for the inheritance from my great-grandfather who copped it in the mid-90s. I’ve been in state education in my entire school life and have never been on any kind of state benefit. Does that tick the boxes of your little profile?

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  16. big bruv (13,734 comments) says:

    Racer

    Do you really think it is good for a bludger to steal from hard working Kiwi’s?, a lot of those hard working Kiwi’s will be Labour or left wing voters, do you think it is right that they should have to graft so that Phool can sit at home taking drugs all day?

    Tell me how that is fair?

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