Political Advertisement

July 15th, 2009 at 9:39 am by David Farrar

This is an actual advertisement, not a parody. I’m sorry but who came up with the line “the bells of socio-economic freedom”. It’s hilarious.

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103 Responses to “Political Advertisement”

  1. Say Goodbye to Hollywood (563 comments) says:

    Pete Hodgson is looking more like Papa Smurf with each day. Memo to Young Labour: Check the latest poll results.

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  2. chfr (126 comments) says:

    That is the funniest thing I have ever seen. Are these people for real?????

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  3. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (852 comments) says:

    bwuhahaha!

    oh, I get it, the chubby socialist is supposed to be the cool model from the kiwibank ad. Yeah right.

    and the Nats are evil, you can tell because they are the man, and wear ties and wash and stuff.

    and Pete Hodgson, sitting behind his socialist issue office desk in his pre-fab is the face of fresh labour youth ideology.

    Oh well, there’ll always be socialists at university, its a bit like vermin really, they always seek out a warm stodgy breeding ground full of half baked ideas to feast upon.

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  4. Peter (1,723 comments) says:

    “Face it, the tide is turning, and it isn’t going your way”

    Clearly the mirror was just out of shot…

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  5. Bok (740 comments) says:

    Jesus! I knew Labour was stuff finically
    but getting a form 3 media studies group to shoot, act and produce
    an ad that was written by a 12 year old boy who had just read about
    revolutions and mutiny, should be against the law.
    Please tell me I have it right as far as the producers are concerned.
    If not the advertising industry in NZ is finally F@#$%%d

    Please please please the writers and producer of this masterpiece, please let us know who you are.
    It is your duty as a human being and a NZder to out yourself.

    Please!!!!

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  6. Straight Shooter (135 comments) says:

    The Left just aren’t funny. They had a classic format for an advert to copy from and they butchered it. They should have stuck to it, kept it short and sweet. Anyone with any attention to detail would have done a better job. Pathetic!

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  7. JustRight (31 comments) says:

    Beeeeeaaauuuuttttiful. That has made my day. They are doomed.

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  8. Elvis Christ (29 comments) says:

    I am still hoping there is a secret agenda, we need one and we need it now, National are too soft of the state sector.

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  9. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    I love that they don’t seem to have realised that by calling for people to “join the opposition” that kind of leaves them stuck as, well, the opposition. I guess if they like it there all power to them.

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  10. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    Young Amateurs in Shock Amateurish Video Scandal. News at 11.

    They’re just kids. Be nice.

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  11. Grant Michael McKenna (1,160 comments) says:

    You know, Key is looking more and more likely to take the record for longest ever time as PM…
    That old fogey is Pete Hodgson? Never see him around here- but then, I live in Dunedin North electorate.

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  12. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Commies, they love democracy… right up until they get their asses fired.

    Comedy, its all about timing. As Tim Curry said in the Three Musketeers.. “Bad timing”.

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  13. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Young Amateurs in Shock Amateurish Video Scandal. News at 11.

    Yeah.

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  14. NX (504 comments) says:

    lol… do these young Labourites know Phil Goff is the leader they’re advocating to be Prime Minister?

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  15. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Actually, actually reminded me of a propaganda video for the Hitler Youth.

    Good effort Chris but I feel there’s a lot of room for you to Godwin harder next time.

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  16. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    Do I detect the superb production and writing skills of Russell Brown?

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  17. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Do I detect the superb production and writing skills of Russell Brown?

    Media-types would’ve done a way better job than this. I would hope he’s a bit more cynical than what was on display here.

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  18. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    Auberon, an easy mistake to make. If it had some of his mums recipes slotted in it would definately be a brown effort.
    Does anybody else feel vaguely uncomfortable with hodgsdons cameo? I saw this last night and blogged on it at the time. He comes across as a very creepy uncle.

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  19. big bruv (14,147 comments) says:

    “from the solo parents who rely on welfare to survive”

    That bloody line is the only reason this nation needs to NEVER vote Labour back into power.

    Typical socialist scum.

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  20. NX (504 comments) says:

    Grant Michael McKenna wrote:

    Key is looking more and more likely to take the record for longest ever time as PM…

    At this stage in her Premiership Clark had managed to offend and degrade sections of the population with her acid tongue. But because Helen’s on the political left that was okay… just like it’s okay for black people to use the ‘N’ word.

    The thing about John Key is he’s actually nice to the people that didn’t vote for him. He doesn’t refer to the nasty left-wing with their bonfire politics. IMO John completely destroys the myth that was Helen Clark.

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  21. dimmocrazy (286 comments) says:

    It would be sad and pathetic if it wasn’t so scary.
    Realize what you see here in action is the result of more than 10 years of creeping indoctrination through a state school system that has been geared and rigged to produce this kind of fanatics and ‘believers’, who will take anything on board that is being sprouted by their leaders and self-proclaimed intellectuals. They may now be only 15-16 but in a couple of years time this is the first row of the marching jackboots.

    This looks funny and silly but scares the shit right out of me. Whoever said that this looked just like the Hitler Jugend is spot on, that is precisely what it is, and I bet you there is a future aunty Helen out there somewhere, a worse one, without any materialistic desires but with only a burning lust for power. A Robespierre, a Marat, a Hitler, one that will stoop to any low and vile means of persuasion, ready to make any promise, in order to achieve but one thing: the grubby tentacles of the socialist state into every little part of everybody’s lives.

    That is what we are looking at in this video and it ain’t funny.

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  22. Bok (740 comments) says:

    You have a hand in it then, Ryan?

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  23. niggly (831 comments) says:

    Slogan: “Young Labour: Join the opposition”.

    Join the opposition? Eh? Are they saying they wish for people to join the opposition … and stay in opposition … what forever perhaps? (Eg like the Greens – they’d rather remain in opposition on principles than be corrupted by power)? That’s how it reads to me!

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  24. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    It was so deftly scripted that I was sure big Russ was involved, but perhaps not. And I agree, the lack of a lamb neck chop recipe does rather eliminate him.

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  25. Bok (740 comments) says:

    Nah too polished for the faux “im cool by being rough around the edges” Brown. It also shows glimmers of talent.
    So Nah.

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  26. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,917 comments) says:

    deity, the actual habitat of verminous creatures requires these characteristics – warm, dark and wet.

    Kinda fits, really.

    auberon, yes I came to the same conclusion. They are recruiting people who want to be in opposition.

    Goff’s Army perhaps should have been the title, replete with khaki and broomsticks at the slope.

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  27. Bok (740 comments) says:

    Adolf
    organically grown gender neutral broomsticks..
    And not at the slope each broomstick has the right to stand proudly upright
    unless that would make another broomstick feel inferior in which case ……

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  28. Jman (84 comments) says:

    Crikey that was horrid. What a bunch of numbnuts.

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  29. NX (504 comments) says:

    dimmocrazy wrote:

    They may now be only 15-16 but in a couple of years time this is the first row of the marching jackboots.

    ^ nah, I reckon they’re early 20s – first year university types. Old enough to buy smokes and drink (yet they choose to make a political video, go figure).

    The main problem with this video is that it’s opposition just for the sake of opposition. There’s nothing National are doing to fire up anyone let alone the political left. We on the right had plenty to complain about – Winstongate, EFA/EFB, 2005 overspend, Tax, Cullen, Helengrade……

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  30. Sam Buchanan (501 comments) says:

    Is Pete Hodgson, with the “so you’re one of us… OK, I’ll give you the good stuff” line, supposed to be a leader of some sort of secret masonic lodge or a drug dealer?

    The saddest bit is the ‘marching down the street looking militant’ bit. Only they’re marching on the footpath, not the street, which gives it a ‘we’re militant, but we don’t want to disrupt the traffic’ look. We’re playing at militancy, but we’re really nice middle-class people.

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  31. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    NX said it, just “oposition”. Thats it, nothing else. Just against.

    Grow TF up kiddies.

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  32. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    You have a hand in it then, Ryan?

    Bok – no, not me.

    I just feel sorry for earnest kids doing their best at something, putting it out there and getting cheerily (and occasionally cruelly) mocked by a bunch of adults. Possibly adults who couldn’t do much better if they tried to do something similar. It’s impolite.

    I agree with you about the glimmers of talent. The “whack-a-tain” thing was fast enough and unexpected enough to be funny. And you can sort of see what they were trying to do with it. They just went a bit long and too complicated to get their point across – reminds me of this. And their sound let them down. Good sound is far more important than people realise.

    But there are some good ideas in there. People gradually joining the group as it marches down the street, then breaks into a run. You can see what they were trying to do there.

    Better idea with a low budget is to go the whole way with the absurdity and hope you strike a chord with viewers at the same time as getting one very simple point across. Then you get to take advantage of the viral nature of online videos – people tell others to watch it because they think they’ll get a kick out of it.

    The best thing Young Labour did in 2005 was the 0800 DON BRASH number. It had a low budget, but it was wacky, funny, got one single point across, and was entertaining enough that long after the 0800 number had hit its limit, people were emailing the mp3 to each other – and it got play on the news, I think.

    That’s what low-budget youth branches of political parties need to do to have any impact, I think.

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  33. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    So it’s not the kiwibank ad, but sounds a heck of a lot like it…………..

    should kiwibank sue for copyright breach? After all, remember the hoo-hah over the music for the National Party/John Key ambitious for NZ ad?

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  34. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Is Pete Hodgson, with the “so you’re one of us… OK, I’ll give you the good stuff” line, supposed to be a leader of some sort of secret masonic lodge or a drug dealer?

    Tsk, not watching enough TV there Sam. The Kiwibank ads use the same thing where a customer at a bar gets better wine due to his being a Kiwibank client, just like the bartender, totally woah.

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  35. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    So what is the point of this? Do Labour like being in opposition? If they want to stay there, then thats fine with me. Frankly they are doing a great job of making sure it happens anyway.

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  36. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    Tsk, not watching enough TV there Sam. The Kiwibank ads use the same thing where a customer at a bar gets better wine due to his being a Kiwibank client, just like the bartender, totally woah.

    Hah, oh. That went completely over my head. I don’t really watch TV.

    Anyone got a link to the Kiwibank ad?

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  37. trout (944 comments) says:

    The left wing contibutors have always taken great delight in using this blog to proselytize; I guess the debates offer more of an intellectual challenge than the left wing blogs which in general offer the same satisfaction as kissing your sister. And yet no comment on this ill- conceived promo ( none of the usual defence) it must be really bad, embarrassing even.

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  38. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Ryan, it’s on youtube, even: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmNTwKbLHgU

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  39. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (852 comments) says:

    Sam, brilliant.

    “we’re militant! but we’re “on the footpath” militant!”

    tis ever the way with university socialists, wouldnt want to do anything other than shock the olds, but not so much they stop the allowance or take the car back.

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  40. Julian (178 comments) says:

    A few points:

    1) It’s frightening that people with (or working towards, judging by the Otago Uni shots) university degrees still believe in anything the Labour Party is selling.

    2) It’s embarrassing that the best the opposition can come up with is this pathetic video. Phil Goff is a National dream come true.

    3) Pete Hodgson! Of all the people you could have chosen!

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  41. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    Hah, thanks, Stephen.

    I would have understood the Young Labour thing a lot more if I’d seen that first. I’m guessing most people have.

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  42. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    2) It’s embarrassing that the best the opposition can come up with is this pathetic video.

    Did you miss the ‘it’s just a bunch of high school kids’ bit?

    3) Pete Hodgson! Of all the people you could have chosen!

    Yep. Though I imagine it went more like ‘HQ! Can we get an MP in our ad?!’

    ‘Sure guys, we’ve asked around, and Pete said he’d be glad to help!’

    ‘Guys, they said Pete Hodgson! Can we say we don’t want him without being reeeeally rude?

    ‘Not really.’

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  43. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    Bahahaha! That’s soooo bad!

    Was ripping off the Kiwibank adverts, badly, REALLY the best the Labour yoof could come up with for their assignment?

    Fortunately Ratbiter is already a leftie so does not need converting..

    (edit: Nice cameo by Hodgson though. No dancing…. )

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  44. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Yeah, “no dancing” probably means he did a passable job.

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  45. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    Fact: Pete Hodgson dancing is awesome.

    You can’t argue with that. It’s science.

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  46. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    IMHO Pete needs, er, better science textbooks.

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  47. david (2,563 comments) says:

    Aw c’mon Ryan, Pete Hodgson is NOT Chuck Norris

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  48. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    Hell and I thought Kate Wilkinson was going to be a problem for National.
    After seeing this clip from Young Labour National has nothing to worry about.
    They can now go ahead and completely balls things up and still came out looking good.
    Kate could also look for a career change.. she would be a stand out leader for Labour,
    compared to the monkeys and the chicken dancer they have in their ranks now.

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  49. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    Aw c’mon Ryan, Pete Hodgson is NOT Chuck Norris

    If Pete Hodgson goes a day without dancing, it would cure cancer, BUT PETE HODGSON NEVER GOES A DAY WITHOUT DANCING.

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  50. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    Michael Jackson didn’t actually OD on anything – he just learned that Pete Hodgson dances and died of fright.

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  51. davidp (3,587 comments) says:

    If National hadn’t nixxed Tizard’s S92a, then KiwiBank would be getting the Labour Party’s Internet connection terminated right about now.

    The brilliant irony would have been having the infringement complaint made in the name of Michael Cullen.

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  52. Sam Buchanan (501 comments) says:

    “Tsk, not watching enough TV there Sam.”

    True – more or less gave it up after The Simpsons lost it’s edge. I’ll take a good comic book anyday, but it does mean I miss a few things in terms of commenting on pop culture/pop politics.

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  53. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Yeah, lost its edge a while ago. Hmm, maybe The Daily Show? culture and politics in one

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  54. s.russell (1,646 comments) says:

    This may prove to be a very effective recruiting tool . . . for the Young Nats.

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  55. Michael E (274 comments) says:

    I think you have to remember that they’re Otago Students, so probably were drunk when they joined Labour. If they were real lefties they would have joined Socialist Workers or whatever they’re now called. When they graduate, they’ll discover that forking over half their income to pay for solo mums on welfare actually stinks.

    Plus Pete Hodgson is the Dunedin North MP – which shows how drunk Otago students are if they think he is the best to represent them.

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  56. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    big bruv notes:

    “from the solo parents who rely on welfare to survive”

    That bloody line is the only reason this nation needs to NEVER vote Labour back into power.

    I wouldn’t worry too much, BB. Remember, when Clark, Goff, Hodgson and the rest of them had a chance to reverse the savage benefit cuts introduced by Shipley they did nothing. Too gutless to attack the poor themselves, they were happy to let someone else do it for them, then whistle and look the other way when they gained power.

    No doubt the makers of this video were still playing with their Barbies when that happened, so they forget that “the bells of socio-economic freedom” haven’t rung out under Labour since well before they were conceived.

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  57. calendar girl (1,264 comments) says:

    Kiwibank can’t take an action against Young Labour for infringement – its directors owe their positions to Labour and its lapdog Anderton. That includes Bolger.

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  58. big bruv (14,147 comments) says:

    Rex

    Believe it or not I am not a totally heartless bastard, I actually believe that NZ should have a gold plated welfare system that provides a better than average lifestyle for the few GENUINE cases we have.

    I believe that the way we look after our war vets is shameful, the way we “care” for our mentally ill is shocking and the amount we hand out to our genuine sickness and invalids is embarrassing.

    The problem we have is low life scum like Bradford and her ilk, as soon as a government decides to do the right thing for these groups we have the left wing low life finding ways for the bludgers (Philip Ure) to get their hands on the money.

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  59. Banana Llama (1,043 comments) says:

    Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?

    Nun, Volk, steh auf und Sturm brich los!

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  60. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Now I can see why Labour and the Greens want the voting age down to 14.

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  61. niggly (831 comments) says:

    Crickey, what’s the significance of the two people snogging as the Young Laborites dash past the Uni?

    Bystanders? Nah, I doubt it (cos it would be a controlled area when filming).

    A cameo role played by whom I wonder?

    Heh heh the YL (Dunedin) President or someone else of significance perhaps? Wonder whether he/she asked to re-take the shot a few times to get a decent clean out of the other person’s insides?!!!

    Student’s eh, they just can’t get enough sex (or beer … or toga parties) ….

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  62. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    Is Pete Hodgson, with the “so you’re one of us… OK, I’ll give you the good stuff” line, supposed to be a leader of some sort of secret masonic lodge or a drug dealer?

    I took it to mean he’ll only help you if you’re a labour party member. Which is a bit wrong considering he’s supposed to be the MP for North Dunedin & help and represent all in his electorate. I guess the truth is finally out.

    Having the labour badge under his collar, what’s with that? Must be embarrassed to be a member of the Labour party now. Shows what he thinks of Goff then, doesn’t it?

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  63. niggly (831 comments) says:

    Oh here’s a thought. I do hope whoever were snogging in the video weren’t part of Young Labour, the Otago Students Association or another related activist group.

    One thing student activists are well known for, is sleeping around the group (and then dissing/avoiding the other person later). For their sake then, they wouldn’t wanna be found out!

    How does that old saying go? Something like the Left hate others of the Left more than someone from the Right? Something like that!

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  64. tvb (4,502 comments) says:

    This video with the unusual person Hodgsen showing off his Labour Badge which is BEHIND his lapel like some secret gang patch and then he says “Ok I will get you the good stuff”, what is that a reference to – except drugs for heavens sake. So he thinks young people will respond to something secret and illegal. Then he shows a whole series of PAST policy initiatives, nothing abut the future. National will bank this ad and show it over and over again. It is utterly stupid beyond belief. I call it a “Weatherstone” ad. Opps I might upset someone with that.

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  65. JustRight (31 comments) says:

    niggly (17) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
    July 15th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Crickey, what’s the significance of the two people snogging as the Young Laborites dash past the Uni?

    Niggly, this is their vision of utopia with “the bells of socio-economic freedom” ringing out, Pete dancing and giving out the good stuff, people snogging on the street (was it a man & woman or 2 boys practicing socio-sexual freedom by the way?), clean living suits being interrogated, youths dominating the footpaths and various constituencies being bribed with their own money.

    Why are they so obsessed with dividing the pie according to their pet agenda, when the name of the game is ‘grow the pie’?

    I can’t help but agree with dimmocrazy’s “10 years of creeping indoctrination through a state school system” as an explanation to this…

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  66. Leonidas (1,441 comments) says:

    Pete’s acting is more wooden than his dancing! surprised it got the green light.

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  67. Razork (375 comments) says:

    I thought the snogging couple were an early representation of the welfare dependant solo mums.

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  68. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    Big bruv:

    I actually believe that NZ should have a gold plated welfare system that provides a better than average lifestyle for the few GENUINE cases we have

    You and me both, BB. If they let us loose down at WINZ I suspect we might end up arguing over where the line was drawn under “genuine” but I also suspect that would be a long time coming, as we’d both be busy for months weeding out the obvious malingerers and bludgers.

    I’m ashamed to say there’s one in my extended family (not by blood… a bad choice of partner by someone who ought to know better, though she’s ditched him recently). He’s an able bodied oaf who spends literally all day on the couch playing PS3 games – when he’s not “on a course” (organised and paid for by WINZ) or making “rap videos” with electronic equipment bought with his dole. His friends are universally the same. So I’m under no illusions about the leeches.

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  69. Flashman (184 comments) says:

    What is it with Labour and their obsession with giving keynote billing to androgenous women with bad teeth and annoying accents?

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  70. Banana Llama (1,043 comments) says:

    I don’t understand why WINZ doesn’t take everyone down to a labour hire, it’s what i have to do when i have no income.

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  71. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    “I’ll get you the good stuff…OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!”

    I liked that KiwiRail didn’t make a show on that illuminative list of accomplishments. And increasing minimum wage in the middle of a recession? Thank fuck National won.

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  72. heathcote (104 comments) says:

    Listen carefully – she says “the bowels of socio-economic ……”

    Sort of sums them up, doesn’t it. Pathetic

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  73. Tauhei Notts (1,747 comments) says:

    This is spooky.
    Dimmocrazy was spot on at 11.08 a.m. with his comments.
    I went to the Wednesday evening show before the Mount Albert bye election. I saw all the young Labour Party hacks there. The blokes were a pathetic bunch of weeds. But I had to admire their organisation. I looked at those imbeciles and thought that if the worst comes to the worst those punks will be the future of our country. It is not a nice thought.
    Look carefully at the advert and note how it sucks up to university students and welfare bludgers. Tradesmen, and the dinkum working class, have been forsaken by this new Labour Party. Anybody who has enough brains to get a trade knows that Labour Party stuff is not for them. The Labour Party is for dole bludgers and students who complain about their arts degree not making them employable. But those unemployable mongols can put an erudite video together to suck in all their useless mates.
    That is the truly scary part.

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  74. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    No, you don’t understand… it actually reminded me of a specific propaganda video for the Hitler Youth. It’s the bit where they’re walking down the pavement and then start to run…

    I withdraw and apologise! Can you detail the video at all? Just curious.

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  75. V (749 comments) says:

    Haven’t laughed this much in ages. Surely these students of political science should know something about the current economic reality. A bit embarrassing for Otago Uni. Pity they missed a shot of the last Labour government pissing billions of $ into the Leith?
    Pete Hodgson should forfeit his salary for however long he was pissing around making such tripe.

    HurfDurf – I think Kiwirail was the first card, but the camera was panned out for a reason.

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  76. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t at all be surprised if perhaps advertisers had incorporated some of the Nazis’ methods over the years…

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  77. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Look carefully at the advert and note how it sucks up to university students and welfare bludgers.

    I too condemn every family getting WFF ;-)

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  78. Ryan Sproull (7,279 comments) says:

    No, you don’t understand… it actually reminded me of a specific propaganda video for the Hitler Youth. It’s the bit where they’re walking down the pavement and then start to run…

    Come to think of it, that bears some similarity to March of the Penguins. Coincidence?!

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  79. noskire (842 comments) says:

    Reminds me of a Peter Jackson film – Meet the Feebles.

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  80. reid (16,632 comments) says:

    “I wouldn’t at all be surprised if perhaps advertisers had incorporated some of the Nazis’ methods over the years…”

    They were doing it in the 50’s stephen.

    Don’t underestimate the viral power of ads like these. As Ryan says, to adults it looks childish. But we’re not the audience, are we? This is a first attempt. They’ll note what happens and the next and the next will grow in effect.

    Also note the flash cards Hodgson displayed. D’ya think maybe that’s where their polling shows they’re getting resonance? Note those and watch for them to start playing those themes over the next few years.

    What the Nats and ACT need to do RIGHT NOW is to mobilise their young people to do exactly the same. Counter it, like noise cancellation. And FFS don’t make it nerdy and/or dorky.

    Remember, lefties are past masters at propaganda. Also remember that just because we don’t find it appealing, it doesn’t mean the target audience don’t. And each of them have one vote, just like each of us.

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  81. clintheine (1,571 comments) says:

    reid, naa mate. This is the best they can do, believe me. These kids will be out of University by the time the next election comes around and even then they won’t win it.

    I wouldn’t be advising Campus ACT to copy this at all. However what I do like is that Labour Youth are getting out there and putting their heads up when it isn’t even an election year. This is something that will help their organisation and legitimise it to other students. However that is much easier to do for them as Otago is left wing and if you attempted anything remotely right wing it would be shouted down by the militants that reside within OUSA.

    The only mobilisation needed by ACT and National students is to get out there and fight hard for VSM.

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  82. reid (16,632 comments) says:

    However what I do like is that Labour Youth are getting out there and putting their heads up when it isn’t even an election year.

    That’s what I meant Clint when I said, noise cancellation. Disperse a wave in exact frequency but opposite oscillation and cancel the vibration.

    If we let lefties get momentum, it’s hard to regain.

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  83. emmess (1,432 comments) says:

    Watching that literally made me feel physically sick

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  84. Angus (536 comments) says:

    Yeah, utterly cringe inducing.

    The pieties, the drooling talking points, the token Asian guy (so contrived), that awful Dyson-esque vernacular, it’s got to be some sort of elaborate piss-take, surely.

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  85. ophiuchus (84 comments) says:

    Thank you Labour for making sure that I will always be a centre-right rational thinker.

    I mean “Join the Opposition”. Maybe Young Labour’s lost their faith in their adult counterparts as well (along with the vast majority of NZer’s). How else could they produce such an ad that just…sucks…arse.

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  86. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Even the fawning leftist trolls aren’t going to touch this by the look of it.

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  87. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    It was in the video archives at my previous university.

    I work at one, might see what I can dredge up one rainy day…

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  88. clintheine (1,571 comments) says:

    sorry reid. I got all excited and didn’t read your post right. :)

    This “momentum” is not the sort I was referring to, this will put them back for a year – heh. They will sit back thinking this was a great video and relax, we can do more by organising our grass roots without humiliating ourselves. The reason why they are all excited now is that many of them were in attendence at Mt Albert a few weeks ago. Labour paid for 2 or three of the Otago members to go up there, Pete and Clare sorted it out for them. Add them to the Wellington members bussed up and every Labour Youth member in Auckland and you can see why they all got excited.

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  89. Sam Buchanan (501 comments) says:

    “what is that a reference to – except drugs for heavens sake. So he thinks young people will respond to something secret and illegal.”

    An old trick of the capitalists – I looked at some cola the other day – it was “Illicit” or some similar sounding brand, with a “secret ingredient from the South American rainforest” or some similar trying-to-sound-like-a-drug claim. The “secret ingredient” was yerba mate. Just a tea-like substance with an obscure name, which the manufacturers were hoping kids would think was something dodge.

    “Remember, lefties are past masters at propaganda. ”

    Yeah – here lefties are copying the product of a capitalist media agency’s fake ‘revolutionary’ advert. The evil swine, how dare the leftists copy the capitalists’ copy of leftists!

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  90. Zarchoff (100 comments) says:

    The bit about “…solo-parents who depend on welfare..” sums up the 9 years of the Helen Clark Labour regime nicely.

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  91. Lumathe (1 comment) says:

    Well…that’s a lot of flaming and criticism over a video that people actually put time into. I’ve only seen one or two bits of vaguely positive stuff/constructive criticism on here. Yes, it may be based off an ad, and may not be amazingly-well-produced, but considering it was done in spare time, without piles of professional equipment or money, I’d say it turned out pretty well. As for comparing it to communism or a Nazi recruitment video, that’s taking things a wee bit far. Sure, there may be a lot of red throughout, but that’s the colour of Labour, so we stuck with it.

    Yes, I was involved in some of the acting for this video (miscellaneous guy in the background in several scenes), and until the Tory youth (or young nats, whatever you’re called) produce something like this, I feel people should refrain from putting down an honest attempt at giving it the good old kiwi try. Admittedly, Hodge does seem a little dodgy, but that was a reference to underground resistance (hiding the badge under the lapel) rather than some sort of Gang, as several people have inferred.
    I’m not personally part of young labour myself, but got dragged into the filming by several friends who are, and believe me, they actually spent a decent amount of time on it. So quit flaming and cut Young Labour some slack. Constructive criticism, yes, comparing it to Nazi Youth, no.

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  92. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    Hahaha,

    I bet if this was a “well produced” film the argument here would be “obviously paid for by the tax payer or aunty helen”. Seriously, with the thinking processes of some New Zealander’s I question how this country is even being governed right now.
    Clearly this is an Otago student video with no direct funding relationship with the likes of BBC, Warner Bros or Hollywood but in the middle of a bloody recession what more did you expect? A walk-in appearance of Micheal Jackson right before his death? A waving good bye of Helen Clark flying all the way from New York?

    Oh and what did the Young Nat’s rely on in election year? Nothing but word of mouth.

    Absolutely nothing, as a student at Auckland university last year I don’t even recall a stall by the Young Nat’s or leaflet drops that were organized regularly by Young Labour to be picked up right before a lecture on “legal methods”.

    As a young tertiary student myself I am more inclined to vote for and join a party that actually has a progressive youth sector making some descent political noise!
    Youth campaigns from Labour and the Greens are far more visible and clearly received than the likes of Young Nat’s and Young Act’s who blog their way to death by arthritis – its all about power to the people.

    Commend the effort not the power of the budget!

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  93. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    It is a dire effort – little miss lispy and little mr puddy the penguin waddling down the street who then visit the paedo peddler pushing good stuff.

    LMFAO!

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  94. clintheine (1,571 comments) says:

    Welcome back FAIL, I mean Fale. I’m sure the reason why you didn’t see any ACT or National youth at Auckland University is because you’re deep inside the unpleasent orifice of the left.

    And Lumathe, who isn’t Labour but is “friends” with them, only sad Labour people call the Young Nats – Tory Youth. Please don’t pretend you’re on a higher plateau than your friends. A “good old kiwi try” isn’t putting together some video making your opponents look like some money hungry scoundrels – Kiwi values are a little more advanced than that subtle attempt to make right wingers look like money obsessed sub-humans…

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  95. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    Why thank you for the random act of kindness Clintheine, it’s not everyday your welcomed onto a blog like that!!

    Clintheine, I should point out that at the tender ages of between 16 and 21 university political recruitment is the most strategic method of action, even if your parents vote completely different.
    It was at university that Helen Clark decided to stray from the family pack and join Young Labour, alongside many other highly profiled Labour MP’s of today and of yesterday.

    If those of Young Labour have the time, effort and commitment to their political campaigns they should be given the utmost support and encouragement. From people like you clintheine I struggle to comprehend how you sleep at night…

    If this is the future of the political spectrum in New Zealand than I am very concerned.

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  96. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Hey Fale, at AU last year there was fuck all there in terms of youth political groups campaigning, with the exception of ACT On Campus, who went through one of the computer rooms and doled out free condoms with “fuck Labour” and “How big is your…economy?” on them. That was pretty clever. Better than that shitty video, anyway.

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  97. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    I would dispute that statement completely Hurf Durf, I don’t know where you mingle on campus but I was definitely approached on orientation, clubs days, random days, etc…

    Young Labour’s presence on campus is at most effective, motivating and strategically successful – You see in 2008 I was a first year with no political allegiances or interest what so ever – the same can be said for other like-minded students fresh from secondary school.
    So along comes Young Labour with this huge vision of Labour party recruitment, targeting the right groups of students and remaining consistent and enthusiastic about the result. I joined the party because of these exact efforts and to this very day there have been no regrets.
    I have my slight disagreements on some particular issues but Labour best represents students because its actually out there physically recruiting the young and politically small-minded.

    If the Young Nat’s got to me first I can guarantee that I would not be a Labour supporter and the same can be said for the Young Act’s, Greens or even NZ First lol.
    As for the condoms, I don’t recall such an occurrence but I don’t use the state’s computers so I wouldn’t know would I?

    The point here is this – I will not support a party that does jack all in terms of recruitment, active involvement and interest in new young-minded members.
    I prefer a party like Labour that has an effective policy for young people across many sectors and covering many issues and I support a party that actually does something for what it stands for.

    The opportunity is open to all political parties of NZ, the issue here is how many are actually doing so successfully?

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  98. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    “Young Labour’s presence on campus is at most effective, motivating and strategically successful – You see in 2008 I was a first year with no political allegiances or interest what so ever – the same can be said for other like-minded students fresh from secondary school.”

    So was I, for the first part. But then I was paying attention and had gradually figured out that socialism was a fraud and a waste of time and I couldn’t be bought off with Laborgs jumping up to me with leaflets before others could. I couldn’t be bought off with discredited and lazy policy. Interest-free loans? If they gave a shit they wouldn’t have left that so late. Emissions trading? Kiss goodbye to economic recovery. KiwiRail? Get the fuck out, Labour. How pathetic are you if you join a party simply because its youth wing gave you unwarranted attention?

    “As for the condoms, I don’t recall such an occurrence but I don’t use the state’s computers so I wouldn’t know would I?”

    It’s the university’s computers which I am allowed to use because I paid the university’s fees. Does that mean you don’t use the library or its online e-journal system then? Because you’re setting sail for a hard fail.

    “Labour best represents students because its actually out there physically recruiting the young and politically small-minded.”

    Says it all, really.

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  99. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    Good for you Hurf Duff, but is the issue here about why students support one party over another or is it more about the relevance of party campaigning on campus and the effectiveness of Young Labour’s? I don’t like to doodle off topic.
    Your view on Socialism is at most one-sided and I could argue something similar for Right-wing Conservatism but on a Sunday night I just don’t have the tolerance. But to address your concern – no I don’t support Labour because I get attention from them, more or less I support Labour because they best identify with me and the issues I support, they represent me better than most other parties will and their policies directly contribute to my success. Policies like investment in education, health care, the economy and employment, its investment in families and in many other at need industries – as a Polynesian immigrant I feel privileged at being supported and encouraged by the back-bone of our former Labour administration that no doubt contributed to the success of my own but also to like-minded immigrants.

    P.S
    I can use the university’s online systems via my lap top so I don’t see the need in investing valuable study time in failed attempts to locate a university computer within an hour. Not to mention the speed and performance of such computers. For someone proudly “paying fees” I would be a bit more concerned at exactly what your getting from such payment. I was fortunate to receive a Polynesian scholarship after High school so I am not in the same position.

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  100. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    “the issue here about why students support one party over another or is it more about the relevance of party campaigning on campus and the effectiveness of Young Labour’s?’

    Free money and naive idealism goes far.

    Though fair enough for you. Labour has paid and billeted for your social rise and it’s natural and understandable that you would reciprocate in kind. I hope you are doing well with the scholarship my and my family’s taxes are paying for. Or maybe it’s the cash from the scholarship my Malaysian friend was getting before it was cancelled? Oh well, it doesn’t matter anymore. Good luck.

    Agreed on the computer front. I only managed to grab it because it was just there available, I don’t bother anymore. If I have to I’ll rent out a laptop. Such a pity Labour couldn’t provide enough funding for more computers to feed young minds and help them succeed, instead spending that money on philu’s news aggregator and nationalising the railway.

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