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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-587186</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a thought - all of you who want &quot;Matariki&quot; as a day off use up one of your annual leave days and just take it.  Dont inflict it on the rest of us.  While we are at it let&#039;s get rid of all the &quot;public&quot; holidays and let folks choose there own time off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought &#8211; all of you who want &#8220;Matariki&#8221; as a day off use up one of your annual leave days and just take it.  Dont inflict it on the rest of us.  While we are at it let&#8217;s get rid of all the &#8220;public&#8221; holidays and let folks choose there own time off.</p>
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		<title>By: clintheine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-587175</link>
		<dc:creator>clintheine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Toad for being a middle aged white boy trying to inflict guilt upon us all and accusing us all of oppressing the Maori. :)

The real story is all the bills that were not drawn out of the ballot and the stupidity of what was.  So we will debate a holiday and a bill that will make no difference to slave labour?  Does Parliament deliberately take the piss or do the left think it&#039;s funny to put in these silly bills?  More disregard for our tax dollars!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Toad for being a middle aged white boy trying to inflict guilt upon us all and accusing us all of oppressing the Maori. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The real story is all the bills that were not drawn out of the ballot and the stupidity of what was.  So we will debate a holiday and a bill that will make no difference to slave labour?  Does Parliament deliberately take the piss or do the left think it&#8217;s funny to put in these silly bills?  More disregard for our tax dollars!</p>
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		<title>By: johnbt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-587107</link>
		<dc:creator>johnbt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So this would be a Maori day off, but for everyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this would be a Maori day off, but for everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586810</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like a perfectly sensible law, just replace &quot;Maori&quot; with &quot;any person&quot;.

Be a good way of getting rid of all the churches, chiropractors and herbalists too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a perfectly sensible law, just replace &#8220;Maori&#8221; with &#8220;any person&#8221;.</p>
<p>Be a good way of getting rid of all the churches, chiropractors and herbalists too.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586808</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matariki sounds like a good idea but lets have a new day for it, Queens birthday is as much part of NZ&#039;s heritage.

Toad, you don&#039;t have to make everything an apologists wetdream with respect colonisation of NZ by the British.  It happened, 200 years later the piss taking by the treaty grievance industry rolls on.  NZ would be a great deal better off closing the bi-cultural myth and operating in a multi-cultural society with no race based prefernces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matariki sounds like a good idea but lets have a new day for it, Queens birthday is as much part of NZ&#8217;s heritage.</p>
<p>Toad, you don&#8217;t have to make everything an apologists wetdream with respect colonisation of NZ by the British.  It happened, 200 years later the piss taking by the treaty grievance industry rolls on.  NZ would be a great deal better off closing the bi-cultural myth and operating in a multi-cultural society with no race based prefernces.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586806</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crusader said: &lt;i&gt;And how about “Dominion Day”...&lt;/i&gt;  

I&#039;ve often wondered why that is a holiday for the legal profession and for South Canterbury, but not for anyone else.

KiwiGreg said: &lt;i&gt;…and I dont recall EVER hearing about “Matariki” until the last decade or so.&lt;/i&gt;

Probably because, like most things Māori, under assimilationist policies Pakeha either tried to pretend they didn&#039;t exist or actively suppressed them.  We even had the Tohunga Suppression Act on our statute books between 1907 and 1962:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Every person who gathers Maoris around him by practising on their superstition or credulity, or who misleads or attempts to mislead any Maori by professing or pretending to profess supernatural powers in the treatment of cure of any disease, or in the foretelling of future events, or otherwise, is liable on summary conviction before a Magistrate to a fine not exceeding twenty-five pounds or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding twelve months in the case of a second or any subsequent offence against this Act.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crusader said: <i>And how about “Dominion Day”&#8230;</i>  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered why that is a holiday for the legal profession and for South Canterbury, but not for anyone else.</p>
<p>KiwiGreg said: <i>…and I dont recall EVER hearing about “Matariki” until the last decade or so.</i></p>
<p>Probably because, like most things Māori, under assimilationist policies Pakeha either tried to pretend they didn&#8217;t exist or actively suppressed them.  We even had the Tohunga Suppression Act on our statute books between 1907 and 1962:</p>
<blockquote><p>Every person who gathers Maoris around him by practising on their superstition or credulity, or who misleads or attempts to mislead any Maori by professing or pretending to profess supernatural powers in the treatment of cure of any disease, or in the foretelling of future events, or otherwise, is liable on summary conviction before a Magistrate to a fine not exceeding twenty-five pounds or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding twelve months in the case of a second or any subsequent offence against this Act.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586802</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anti-child labour bill sounds like motherhood until you start trying to define a child, work out who is goiing to pay for proving your imports aren&#039;t touched anywhere by &quot;children&quot;, and working out which countries can be discriminated against.


...and I dont recall EVER hearing about  &quot;Matariki&quot; until the last decade or so.

When I was a child I used to love getting work because that equalled getting money.  

It&#039;s clearly just a trojan horse for an anti-free trade lobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-child labour bill sounds like motherhood until you start trying to define a child, work out who is goiing to pay for proving your imports aren&#8217;t touched anywhere by &#8220;children&#8221;, and working out which countries can be discriminated against.</p>
<p>&#8230;and I dont recall EVER hearing about  &#8220;Matariki&#8221; until the last decade or so.</p>
<p>When I was a child I used to love getting work because that equalled getting money.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s clearly just a trojan horse for an anti-free trade lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586789</link>
		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please add my vote for a Matariki holiday in place of the Queen&#039;s Birthday (which isn&#039;t even her real birthday anyway).
And how about &quot;Dominion Day&quot; (late September, to commemorate NZ becoming an independent dominion rather than a colony) in place of Labour Day.
At least that would space out the public hols better over the year!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please add my vote for a Matariki holiday in place of the Queen&#8217;s Birthday (which isn&#8217;t even her real birthday anyway).<br />
And how about &#8220;Dominion Day&#8221; (late September, to commemorate NZ becoming an independent dominion rather than a colony) in place of Labour Day.<br />
At least that would space out the public hols better over the year!</p>
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		<title>By: dion</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586758</link>
		<dc:creator>dion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t say no to another holiday.  Especially if it&#039;s made to fall on a Monday :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say no to another holiday.  Especially if it&#8217;s made to fall on a Monday <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586726</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;By coincidence the Greens are having a Mātāriki Party tonight, which they have kindly invited me to.&quot;

Ewwwww...yuk, surely you are not going?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By coincidence the Greens are having a Mātāriki Party tonight, which they have kindly invited me to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ewwwww&#8230;yuk, surely you are not going?</p>
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		<title>By: BlairM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586719</link>
		<dc:creator>BlairM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what about the other legislation?  Banning imports manufactured by children?  Would Maryan Street rather that third world families become destitute rubbish dump scavengers, or sell their children into marriage or prostitution?  Very feminist that.  Yes, no child should have to work for a living, but in many countries a human right like that is a luxury.  The answer is to encourage people to buy those products so that third world economies are enriched, not take away that income and make things worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what about the other legislation?  Banning imports manufactured by children?  Would Maryan Street rather that third world families become destitute rubbish dump scavengers, or sell their children into marriage or prostitution?  Very feminist that.  Yes, no child should have to work for a living, but in many countries a human right like that is a luxury.  The answer is to encourage people to buy those products so that third world economies are enriched, not take away that income and make things worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Camryn</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586672</link>
		<dc:creator>Camryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Charles becomes King, he&#039;ll leave it up to the government to decide when they&#039;d like the holiday to celebrate his birthday to be. They can say &quot;the day of the next new moon following the day in which the moon rises in the months of May or June&quot; and we can have both King&#039;s Birthday and Mātāriki on the same day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Charles becomes King, he&#8217;ll leave it up to the government to decide when they&#8217;d like the holiday to celebrate his birthday to be. They can say &#8220;the day of the next new moon following the day in which the moon rises in the months of May or June&#8221; and we can have both King&#8217;s Birthday and Mātāriki on the same day.</p>
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		<title>By: backster</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586641</link>
		<dc:creator>backster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well we could cancel Waitangi Day and install Matariki Day, alternatively we could make Matariki day a holiday for Maori only, that wouldn&#039;t affect overall productivity much indeed it might improve it. It would also acknowledge Maori as special people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we could cancel Waitangi Day and install Matariki Day, alternatively we could make Matariki day a holiday for Maori only, that wouldn&#8217;t affect overall productivity much indeed it might improve it. It would also acknowledge Maori as special people.</p>
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		<title>By: Cerium</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586640</link>
		<dc:creator>Cerium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And: Treatment of public holidays
  13. What are your views on the significance of the 11 public holidays listed in the Act? (These are: Christmas Day; Boxing Day; New Year&#039;s Day; 2 January; Waitangi Day; Good Friday; Easter Monday; ANZAC Day; Queen&#039;s Birthday; Labour Day; and Provincial Anniversary Day.)

Take part in the democratic process if you feel strongly about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And: Treatment of public holidays<br />
  13. What are your views on the significance of the 11 public holidays listed in the Act? (These are: Christmas Day; Boxing Day; New Year&#8217;s Day; 2 January; Waitangi Day; Good Friday; Easter Monday; ANZAC Day; Queen&#8217;s Birthday; Labour Day; and Provincial Anniversary Day.)</p>
<p>Take part in the democratic process if you feel strongly about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cerium</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586629</link>
		<dc:creator>Cerium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can make submissions on this here: http://dol.govt.nz/consultation/holidays-act-review/

It includes : Allowing all employers and employees to agree to transfer the observance of a public holiday listed in the Act to another day 

Something similar is already done in some areas (eg Otago) with anniversary days where they can be taken at a more convenient day. This ensures employees get their quota of public holidays but avoids the payment complications that arise now and may help reduce the accumulation of lieu days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make submissions on this here: <a href="http://dol.govt.nz/consultation/holidays-act-review/" rel="nofollow">http://dol.govt.nz/consultation/holidays-act-review/</a></p>
<p>It includes : Allowing all employers and employees to agree to transfer the observance of a public holiday listed in the Act to another day </p>
<p>Something similar is already done in some areas (eg Otago) with anniversary days where they can be taken at a more convenient day. This ensures employees get their quota of public holidays but avoids the payment complications that arise now and may help reduce the accumulation of lieu days.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586597</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The first is the Customs and Excise (Prohibition of Imports Made by Slave Labour) Amendment Bill by Labour’s Maryan Street. &lt;/i&gt;

There goes chocolate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The first is the Customs and Excise (Prohibition of Imports Made by Slave Labour) Amendment Bill by Labour’s Maryan Street. </i></p>
<p>There goes chocolate.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586582</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff83
Standard hours of work  Monday to Friday 8am to 5pm 30 minutes lunch. Saturday 8am to 1pm no break but paid at 1.5.

Min 2 days week overtime of 3 hours  each paid at 1.5 

Average 53.5 hr p wk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff83<br />
Standard hours of work  Monday to Friday 8am to 5pm 30 minutes lunch. Saturday 8am to 1pm no break but paid at 1.5.</p>
<p>Min 2 days week overtime of 3 hours  each paid at 1.5 </p>
<p>Average 53.5 hr p wk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff83</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586572</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He he he.

Im for it, with or without dumping Queens Birthday.

Gd

&quot;We had 10 days annual holidays when I started work and it didnt do us any harm&quot;

Pretty sure 12 hour days were not a normal thing when you started work either.  Think you would be hard placed to argue thsoe who work work less than people did in the 50s mate.  Happy to be proved wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he he.</p>
<p>Im for it, with or without dumping Queens Birthday.</p>
<p>Gd</p>
<p>&#8220;We had 10 days annual holidays when I started work and it didnt do us any harm&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty sure 12 hour days were not a normal thing when you started work either.  Think you would be hard placed to argue thsoe who work work less than people did in the 50s mate.  Happy to be proved wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: paradigm</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586567</link>
		<dc:creator>paradigm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Condoms are over rated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So is the &quot;DPB lifestyle&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Condoms are over rated.</p></blockquote>
<p>So is the &#8220;DPB lifestyle&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/07/selected.html/comment-page-1#comment-586563</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing I struggle with DPF is when a smart, intelligent, original thinker like yourself lets himself become nothing more than a cheer leader for the National party.

You seem to have developed a rather silly habit of attacking those who dare question Neville Key and the Nat&#039;s, it is rather reminiscent of the way the hard left go after one of their own who dares to disagree with the Nomenklatura.

How the hell can you say that any discussion around public holidays has nothing to do with shop trading hours?, to even suggest the two are not connected is disingenuous at best, the fact remains DPF that the Nat&#039;s want to do away with public holidays and replace them with annual leave.

We do not need any more annual leave, we did not need the fourth week introduced by the Labour government, what we need is better productivity and the return of the traditional Kiwi weekend where Mum and Dad have the time to care for their kids, take them to sport and make their own fucking coffee!

[DPF: You should try not inventing things. As far as I know National has no policy or plans to do away with national holidays. In fact sadly most National MPs are like you - totally conservative and resistant to change when it comes to a sensible regime for shop trading hours or public holidays.

And you may have missed me attacking today the Govt&#039;s decision on cellphones in cars and yesterday&#039;s criticism of John Key and Paula Bennett over their response to the Maori Welfare report.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I struggle with DPF is when a smart, intelligent, original thinker like yourself lets himself become nothing more than a cheer leader for the National party.</p>
<p>You seem to have developed a rather silly habit of attacking those who dare question Neville Key and the Nat&#8217;s, it is rather reminiscent of the way the hard left go after one of their own who dares to disagree with the Nomenklatura.</p>
<p>How the hell can you say that any discussion around public holidays has nothing to do with shop trading hours?, to even suggest the two are not connected is disingenuous at best, the fact remains DPF that the Nat&#8217;s want to do away with public holidays and replace them with annual leave.</p>
<p>We do not need any more annual leave, we did not need the fourth week introduced by the Labour government, what we need is better productivity and the return of the traditional Kiwi weekend where Mum and Dad have the time to care for their kids, take them to sport and make their own fucking coffee!</p>
<p>[DPF: You should try not inventing things. As far as I know National has no policy or plans to do away with national holidays. In fact sadly most National MPs are like you - totally conservative and resistant to change when it comes to a sensible regime for shop trading hours or public holidays.</p>
<p>And you may have missed me attacking today the Govt's decision on cellphones in cars and yesterday's criticism of John Key and Paula Bennett over their response to the Maori Welfare report.]</p>
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