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	<title>Comments on: Greens announce new emissions reduction policy &#8211; abortion</title>
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		<title>By: jcuknz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595470</link>
		<dc:creator>jcuknz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his desire to send the Greens up I think DPF made a mistake steming from their suggested reduction in the dairy herds.    A very sensible idea spoilt by the introduction of abortion/miscarraige which of course sets the feminists off quite justifiably, and other sensitive folk.   

The world doesn&#039;t need the number of humans it currently has let alone the likely increases of the future.    Better would be for the Greens to have suggested limited insemination in herds, which I gather has been normal practice for decades anyway, and then this could also be applied to humans.   But I expect it will be a long time coming becuase humans are basically only out for themselves when it comes to the crunch, that is nature for you, and it will need a lemming like solution to force it upon them. It could well be that nature has already set humanity on a lemming like race to extinction.

The problem with sensible ideas like this is that humans are born &#039;empire builders&#039; and want their group to be the dominent one becuase until recent times we have lived in an expanding world, which it no longer is.  Capitalism is based on  expanding production, increase GNP, using up earth&#039;s finite resources ... then what?    I imagine this sounds like &#039;green talk&#039; though since I almost never read anything they produce I wouldn&#039;t know ... but it seems to be common sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his desire to send the Greens up I think DPF made a mistake steming from their suggested reduction in the dairy herds.    A very sensible idea spoilt by the introduction of abortion/miscarraige which of course sets the feminists off quite justifiably, and other sensitive folk.   </p>
<p>The world doesn&#8217;t need the number of humans it currently has let alone the likely increases of the future.    Better would be for the Greens to have suggested limited insemination in herds, which I gather has been normal practice for decades anyway, and then this could also be applied to humans.   But I expect it will be a long time coming becuase humans are basically only out for themselves when it comes to the crunch, that is nature for you, and it will need a lemming like solution to force it upon them. It could well be that nature has already set humanity on a lemming like race to extinction.</p>
<p>The problem with sensible ideas like this is that humans are born &#8216;empire builders&#8217; and want their group to be the dominent one becuase until recent times we have lived in an expanding world, which it no longer is.  Capitalism is based on  expanding production, increase GNP, using up earth&#8217;s finite resources &#8230; then what?    I imagine this sounds like &#8216;green talk&#8217; though since I almost never read anything they produce I wouldn&#8217;t know &#8230; but it seems to be common sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Razork</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595451</link>
		<dc:creator>Razork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic; Hilarious!

I was thinking &quot;Logan&#039;s Run&quot; as an experiement to achieve the same thing but the age threshold would need to be lifted to 65 i reckon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic; Hilarious!</p>
<p>I was thinking &#8220;Logan&#8217;s Run&#8221; as an experiement to achieve the same thing but the age threshold would need to be lifted to 65 i reckon.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595393</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..Beam me up ‘Scotty’..&quot;

(indeed..!..would that they could..eh..?..would that they could..)

biblically-predicted-end-times..eh..?

are you from the loony (religious) right..?..there..kkk..?

..or do i need to ask..?

i could break down/laugh at yr &#039;list of reasons&#039;..

..but..y&#039;know..!..yawn..!

(save to say..thanks for the chuckle..

..and gizzayell when you plan to walk to the top of the mountain..eh..?

y&#039;know..!..to wait..?

..like in that simpsons episode..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..Beam me up ‘Scotty’..&#8221;</p>
<p>(indeed..!..would that they could..eh..?..would that they could..)</p>
<p>biblically-predicted-end-times..eh..?</p>
<p>are you from the loony (religious) right..?..there..kkk..?</p>
<p>..or do i need to ask..?</p>
<p>i could break down/laugh at yr &#8216;list of reasons&#8217;..</p>
<p>..but..y&#8217;know..!..yawn..!</p>
<p>(save to say..thanks for the chuckle..</p>
<p>..and gizzayell when you plan to walk to the top of the mountain..eh..?</p>
<p>y&#8217;know..!..to wait..?</p>
<p>..like in that simpsons episode..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Kris K</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595386</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>itiswhatitis 3:21 pm,

Yeah, I&#039;ve also heard the 500 million figure being quoted by the &#039;One Worlders&#039;. I did read somewhere also about the Georgia Guidestones - and their occultic links.

One does have to start taking the Biblical end times account increasingly more serious. Especially in light of the moving towards a One World Government, one world laws, one world spirituality, the destruction of the autonomous nation state, increasing lawlessness/rebellion, increasing homosexuality, breakdown of the nuclear family, etc.

I guess when you throw out the old Deity, the new deities come flooding in. eg humanism, earth worship [Gaia], and all the other false religions.

Beam me up &#039;Scotty&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>itiswhatitis 3:21 pm,</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve also heard the 500 million figure being quoted by the &#8216;One Worlders&#8217;. I did read somewhere also about the Georgia Guidestones &#8211; and their occultic links.</p>
<p>One does have to start taking the Biblical end times account increasingly more serious. Especially in light of the moving towards a One World Government, one world laws, one world spirituality, the destruction of the autonomous nation state, increasing lawlessness/rebellion, increasing homosexuality, breakdown of the nuclear family, etc.</p>
<p>I guess when you throw out the old Deity, the new deities come flooding in. eg humanism, earth worship [Gaia], and all the other false religions.</p>
<p>Beam me up &#8216;Scotty&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: itiswhatitis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595374</link>
		<dc:creator>itiswhatitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris k

Yeah and they say the proposed 80% population reduction is a mere &quot;conspiracy&quot;
While everyday leaders, top scientists and greenies put forth the ideas of accepting culling the populations to save the planet.
theres even been the Giogia Stones erected to to send a message to the world to;
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature. 

see the photos
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris k</p>
<p>Yeah and they say the proposed 80% population reduction is a mere &#8220;conspiracy&#8221;<br />
While everyday leaders, top scientists and greenies put forth the ideas of accepting culling the populations to save the planet.<br />
theres even been the Giogia Stones erected to to send a message to the world to;<br />
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.<br />
2. Guide reproduction wisely &#8211; improving fitness and diversity.<br />
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.<br />
4. Rule passion &#8211; faith &#8211; tradition &#8211; and all things with tempered reason.<br />
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.<br />
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.<br />
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.<br />
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.<br />
9. Prize truth &#8211; beauty &#8211; love &#8211; seeking harmony with the infinite.<br />
10.Be not a cancer on the earth &#8211; Leave room for nature &#8211; Leave room for nature. </p>
<p>see the photos<br />
<a href="http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kris K</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595359</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>itiswhatitis [August 11th 8:02 am] &amp; TimG_Oz [August 11th 11:18 am]

Those links are both scary and revealing of the Green/One Worlders agenda. Namely, severe population control/reduction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>itiswhatitis [August 11th 8:02 am] &amp; TimG_Oz [August 11th 11:18 am]</p>
<p>Those links are both scary and revealing of the Green/One Worlders agenda. Namely, severe population control/reduction.</p>
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		<title>By: TimG_Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595278</link>
		<dc:creator>TimG_Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is this might not be satire at all:

Meet some environmentalists that terminated their children for the sake of the planet.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/save_the_planet_kill_your_child</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is this might not be satire at all:</p>
<p>Meet some environmentalists that terminated their children for the sake of the planet.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/save_the_planet_kill_your_child" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/save_the_planet_kill_your_child</a></p>
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		<title>By: itiswhatitis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595267</link>
		<dc:creator>itiswhatitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food crisis could force wartime rations and vegetarian diet on Britons.
Even though the nation is 73 per cent self-sufficient in food production, higher than during the 1950s, the food chain is at risk from global influences such as a worldwide increase in population, climate change bringing extreme weather patterns, higher oil prices and more crops being grown for bio-fuel instead of food
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6789958.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food crisis could force wartime rations and vegetarian diet on Britons.<br />
Even though the nation is 73 per cent self-sufficient in food production, higher than during the 1950s, the food chain is at risk from global influences such as a worldwide increase in population, climate change bringing extreme weather patterns, higher oil prices and more crops being grown for bio-fuel instead of food<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6789958.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6789958.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595239</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hilarious how eye-wateringly &#039;dumb&#039;..jackp/gj actually are..

..eh..?

r/w s.o.h. byepass-at-birth-dictum...?..further confirmation..?..

(as if we needed it..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hilarious how eye-wateringly &#8216;dumb&#8217;..jackp/gj actually are..</p>
<p>..eh..?</p>
<p>r/w s.o.h. byepass-at-birth-dictum&#8230;?..further confirmation..?..</p>
<p>(as if we needed it..?..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: itiswhatitis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595176</link>
		<dc:creator>itiswhatitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greens idea?
Heres the study that greenies are using around the world, this is not a joke to them.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VFV-4V8FFCG-1&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=411a4bfd17ad84a0d2fd4c0a9061c717</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greens idea?<br />
Heres the study that greenies are using around the world, this is not a joke to them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&#038;_udi=B6VFV-4V8FFCG-1&#038;_user=10&#038;_rdoc=1&#038;_fmt=&#038;_orig=search&#038;_sort=d&#038;_docanchor=&#038;view=c&#038;_acct=C000050221&#038;_version=1&#038;_urlVersion=0&#038;_userid=10&#038;md5=411a4bfd17ad84a0d2fd4c0a9061c717" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&#038;_udi=B6VFV-4V8FFCG-1&#038;_user=10&#038;_rdoc=1&#038;_fmt=&#038;_orig=search&#038;_sort=d&#038;_docanchor=&#038;view=c&#038;_acct=C000050221&#038;_version=1&#038;_urlVersion=0&#038;_userid=10&#038;md5=411a4bfd17ad84a0d2fd4c0a9061c717</a></p>
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		<title>By: jackp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595155</link>
		<dc:creator>jackp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the greens are a good argument against mmp.  Once they are out of Parliament, I will feel a whole lot better. I think the campaign against mmp needs to start now! Abortions, wow, which rock did they sliver out from underneath?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the greens are a good argument against mmp.  Once they are out of Parliament, I will feel a whole lot better. I think the campaign against mmp needs to start now! Abortions, wow, which rock did they sliver out from underneath?</p>
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		<title>By: GJ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595117</link>
		<dc:creator>GJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With this sort of rubbish coming from the Greens the best thing for the country would be to eliminate the Green Party altogether and if you want a bonus get rid of all the idiots’ that continue to believe their lies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With this sort of rubbish coming from the Greens the best thing for the country would be to eliminate the Green Party altogether and if you want a bonus get rid of all the idiots’ that continue to believe their lies!</p>
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		<title>By: Galeandra</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595103</link>
		<dc:creator>Galeandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF was not admired by village idiot: &quot;Nice glimpse into the mind of a mysoganist.&quot;
Course, others found him witty AND hilarious &quot;Some of you people are sad sacks. The post is tagged under satire. God knows how you would moan about Jonathan Swiftt’s treatise on eating Irish babies.&quot; said Brian (who would be Bigger).

The sad fact is, though, that David has been a bit tasteless and for no good reason. Swift was scathing in his attack on those who would exploit the defenceless. David seems not to give a (cow)shit about the state of planet that those of us who have children would like to leave as legacy. He would rather jeer from afar. Fastidious as Swift, no, prissy maybe, but a Yahoo for all that.
 For sure Swift would resent the cheap plagiarism, and  resent seeing his giant cloak trailed through Grub Street by wee David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF was not admired by village idiot: &#8220;Nice glimpse into the mind of a mysoganist.&#8221;<br />
Course, others found him witty AND hilarious &#8220;Some of you people are sad sacks. The post is tagged under satire. God knows how you would moan about Jonathan Swiftt’s treatise on eating Irish babies.&#8221; said Brian (who would be Bigger).</p>
<p>The sad fact is, though, that David has been a bit tasteless and for no good reason. Swift was scathing in his attack on those who would exploit the defenceless. David seems not to give a (cow)shit about the state of planet that those of us who have children would like to leave as legacy. He would rather jeer from afar. Fastidious as Swift, no, prissy maybe, but a Yahoo for all that.<br />
 For sure Swift would resent the cheap plagiarism, and  resent seeing his giant cloak trailed through Grub Street by wee David.</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595098</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that many people reading this post hesitated at first, since perhaps the greens may just be that crazy that this is something they could come up with. We know they are concerned about overpopulation, we know they have little concern for a foetus, we know many on their team value animals over humans. 
Anyone who claims this is sick needs to look at their own position on abortion. I&#039;m sure some are genuinely sickened, but I am sure a whole lot more of you are having a kneejerk and don&#039;t really believe there is anything wrong with selective abortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that many people reading this post hesitated at first, since perhaps the greens may just be that crazy that this is something they could come up with. We know they are concerned about overpopulation, we know they have little concern for a foetus, we know many on their team value animals over humans.<br />
Anyone who claims this is sick needs to look at their own position on abortion. I&#8217;m sure some are genuinely sickened, but I am sure a whole lot more of you are having a kneejerk and don&#8217;t really believe there is anything wrong with selective abortions.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurf Durf</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595069</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurf Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had it an hour ago, phool.</description>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595063</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can hear your mum calling you for dinner..hurf..

off you go..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can hear your mum calling you for dinner..hurf..</p>
<p>off you go..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Hurf Durf</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595049</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurf Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best thing about the Green Party isn&#039;t mocking them, it&#039;s watching their supporters wet themselves afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing about the Green Party isn&#8217;t mocking them, it&#8217;s watching their supporters wet themselves afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595006</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and then decrys anyone having any&quot;

Incorrect getstaffed. Read carefully: RRM decried rued people who consider their money-making capacity validates their rudeness. 

&quot;(except fellow socialists travellers I presume).&quot;

Interesting presumption getstaffed. Please explain. I am gainfully employed in private enterprise and have never drawn any MSD benefit - hardly Kiwiblog&#039;s classic &quot;Socialist&quot; strawman??


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&quot;you have no right to tell them to shut up.&quot;

Kiwigreg, why do you think Farrar runs these threads if not to garner feedback? I did not tell him to shut up, only that what was said was a pretty sickening. As per getstaffed comments, please read more carefully. You are arguing a taste and decency problem as though it is a freedom of speech issue, exactly as I said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and then decrys anyone having any&#8221;</p>
<p>Incorrect getstaffed. Read carefully: RRM decried rued people who consider their money-making capacity validates their rudeness. </p>
<p>&#8220;(except fellow socialists travellers I presume).&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting presumption getstaffed. Please explain. I am gainfully employed in private enterprise and have never drawn any MSD benefit &#8211; hardly Kiwiblog&#8217;s classic &#8220;Socialist&#8221; strawman??</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;you have no right to tell them to shut up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kiwigreg, why do you think Farrar runs these threads if not to garner feedback? I did not tell him to shut up, only that what was said was a pretty sickening. As per getstaffed comments, please read more carefully. You are arguing a taste and decency problem as though it is a freedom of speech issue, exactly as I said.</p>
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		<title>By: itiswhatitis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-595005</link>
		<dc:creator>itiswhatitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugenics is gradually being uttered all around the globe as something that should be embraced. Contraception is acceptable to teens and parents alike, while families are urged to work harder, spend more time working and getting into monumental debt while having fewer kids in the process. Parents are being made to feel bad about having children through advertising and movies.
Countries have had mass vaccinations that have 

READ THIS
Obamas Science Czar John Holdren publically recomended to the White House Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A &quot;Planetary Regime&quot; with the power of life and death over American citizens. 
The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation&#039;s drinking water or in food; 
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
China forced Eugenics onto their populations, and what has that done to their environment? Maybe a Greens member could explain how well abortion, even FORCED MASS abortions in China has helped their Environment??

Wonder if the Greens pinched the idea off the Oregon State University Study http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis

The research also makes it clear that potential carbon impacts vary dramatically across countries. The average long-term carbon impact of a child born in the U.S. – along with all of its descendants – is more than 160 times the impact of a child born in Bangladesh.

Or they pinched it out of Science Direct (THE WHOLE STUDY)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VFV-4V8FFCG-1&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=411a4bfd17ad84a0d2fd4c0a9061c717

The weather crisis is obviously so bad that the Pentagon finds that the Global Warming can influence terrorism 
The Department of Defense’s assessment of the security issue came about after prodding by Congress to include climate issues in its strategic plans — specifically, in 2008 budget authorizations by Hillary Rodham Clinton and John W. Warner, then senators. The department’s climate modeling is based on sophisticated Navy and Air Force weather programs and other government climate research programs at NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. THATS WEATHER MODIFICATIONS AND CHEM SEEDING. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=3&amp;th&amp;emc=th




http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=3&amp;th&amp;emc=th

To me its garbage, and Eugenics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugenics is gradually being uttered all around the globe as something that should be embraced. Contraception is acceptable to teens and parents alike, while families are urged to work harder, spend more time working and getting into monumental debt while having fewer kids in the process. Parents are being made to feel bad about having children through advertising and movies.<br />
Countries have had mass vaccinations that have </p>
<p>READ THIS<br />
Obamas Science Czar John Holdren publically recomended to the White House Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A &#8220;Planetary Regime&#8221; with the power of life and death over American citizens.<br />
The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation&#8217;s drinking water or in food;<br />
<a href="http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/" rel="nofollow">http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/</a><br />
China forced Eugenics onto their populations, and what has that done to their environment? Maybe a Greens member could explain how well abortion, even FORCED MASS abortions in China has helped their Environment??</p>
<p>Wonder if the Greens pinched the idea off the Oregon State University Study <a href="http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis" rel="nofollow">http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis</a></p>
<p>The research also makes it clear that potential carbon impacts vary dramatically across countries. The average long-term carbon impact of a child born in the U.S. – along with all of its descendants – is more than 160 times the impact of a child born in Bangladesh.</p>
<p>Or they pinched it out of Science Direct (THE WHOLE STUDY)<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&#038;_udi=B6VFV-4V8FFCG-1&#038;_user=10&#038;_rdoc=1&#038;_fmt=&#038;_orig=search&#038;_sort=d&#038;_docanchor=&#038;view=c&#038;_acct=C000050221&#038;_version=1&#038;_urlVersion=0&#038;_userid=10&#038;md5=411a4bfd17ad84a0d2fd4c0a9061c717" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&#038;_udi=B6VFV-4V8FFCG-1&#038;_user=10&#038;_rdoc=1&#038;_fmt=&#038;_orig=search&#038;_sort=d&#038;_docanchor=&#038;view=c&#038;_acct=C000050221&#038;_version=1&#038;_urlVersion=0&#038;_userid=10&#038;md5=411a4bfd17ad84a0d2fd4c0a9061c717</a></p>
<p>The weather crisis is obviously so bad that the Pentagon finds that the Global Warming can influence terrorism<br />
The Department of Defense’s assessment of the security issue came about after prodding by Congress to include climate issues in its strategic plans — specifically, in 2008 budget authorizations by Hillary Rodham Clinton and John W. Warner, then senators. The department’s climate modeling is based on sophisticated Navy and Air Force weather programs and other government climate research programs at NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. THATS WEATHER MODIFICATIONS AND CHEM SEEDING. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=3&#038;th&#038;emc=th" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=3&#038;th&#038;emc=th</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=3&#038;th&#038;emc=th" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/science/earth/09climate.html?_r=3&#038;th&#038;emc=th</a></p>
<p>To me its garbage, and Eugenics</p>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/08/greens_announce_new_emissions_reduction_policy_-_abortion.html#comment-594998</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RRM &quot;It amazes me how the Kiwiblog right shamelessly misrepresents issues of good taste and decency as freedom of speech issues&quot;

It&#039;s a private blog.  You actually have to come here and read it, it&#039;s not been rammed down your throat.  If you are at someone&#039;s house and they start ranting about stuff you disagree with you can argue with them, or you can leave, you have no right to tell them to shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RRM &#8220;It amazes me how the Kiwiblog right shamelessly misrepresents issues of good taste and decency as freedom of speech issues&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a private blog.  You actually have to come here and read it, it&#8217;s not been rammed down your throat.  If you are at someone&#8217;s house and they start ranting about stuff you disagree with you can argue with them, or you can leave, you have no right to tell them to shut up.</p>
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