Labour MPs

August 20th, 2009 at 7:53 am by David Farrar

blogged on 15 August 2009:

The fact that they weren’t sent to prison because they are Maori just doesn’t seem right to me.

Nanaia Mahuta blogged on 18 August 2009:

To criticise the sentence on a matter of race is ridiculous

I don’t think Trevor was being ridiculous, as Nanaia labels him.

In fact I sometimes wonder if Trevor does not have a very cunning game plan. So cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox.

He has become the de facto Opposition Leader of the House and appears to lead their parliamentary strategy.Have a look at Parliament some time and you will see Mallard working with Hughes and the Whips to decide what to do.

He also seems to be in charge of their communications, and set up Red Alert without even telling Phil Goff about it.

He is going out of his way to mentor new MPs, and often is delegated to speak on behalf of the party on non portfolio issues.

And we now see Trevor positioning himself to appeal to non-core voters with his blog on this issue.

Now maybe it is all a coincidence, but is it possible that Trevor is planning some bbqs over summer?

Trevor was widely seen as a leadership contender along with Maharey un until a couple of years ago. Suddenly within a few weeks Trevor was out of the running for punching Tau Henare, and Maharey bailed to academia. Phil Goff suddenly became the heir apparent despite never being Clark’s choice.

So is Goff there just to give Trevor time to rehabilitate himself?

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52 Responses to “Labour MPs”

  1. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    Baldrick used a weasel – not a fox. (and it just seems more suited to Trevor)

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  2. Angus (536 comments) says:

    Remember, this is the same Trevor Mallard who fabricated stories about National party policy being formulated in Washington and being financed by a wealthy US bag man.

    Remember, this is the same Trevor Mallard who taunted Don Brash with the Dianne Foreman remarks whilst sitting in Parliament.

    Remember, this is the same Trevor Mallard who instigated a stoush with Tau Henare.

    I repeat, the man is a disgrace to the NZ Parliament, his profession and his country. And this latest stuff is purely for political gain, he obviously said sweet fuck all when Margaret Wilson appointed this activist judge in the first place.

    And remember, the community will most likely have to endure having this boorish, truculent and illdisciplined lout Mallard as Minister of Education again one day.

    LEST WE FORGET.

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  3. wreck1080 (3,719 comments) says:

    So, trevors strategy is to stop being a wank long enough to get him to the head of the labour party. Once/if his plan succeeds, he’ll go back to the natural state of being a wank.

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  4. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    I think I would like Trevor Mallard as the leader of the Labour Party. We’d lose the no-mans land of Phil Goff and gain a contemptible politician in his place. Labour self destruction in 3 … 2 … 1 …

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  5. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,787 comments) says:

    Very good thesis David. Very difficult, however, to imagine the party’s Anger Management spokesman being elevated to the position of OIC Failure Management.

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  6. helmet (807 comments) says:

    “So is Goff there just to give Trevor time to rehabilitate himself?”

    F%$k I hope so, four more terms for the nats if it’s true!

    Chances are pretty slim though. Even though the talent pool in labour is shallow, there’s better talent in there than Trev. I don’t doubt that he wants the leadership role very badly, in fact it’s cringeingly obvious most of the time, but he’s just not qualified for it, never will be. It’s simple, he makes too many mistakes; he simply isn’t intelligent enough. I feel a bit sorry for him because he sure as hell tries hard.

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  7. Cerium (22,719 comments) says:

    I can see Mallard appealing to the party faithful as a stronger leader but I can’t see him winning back the votes they need to get anywhere.

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  8. XChequer (350 comments) says:

    If it is true that Trev is positioning himself for a shot at the title then the National Party strategists must be rubbing their hands in glee! It would be all their Christmas’ come at once (and possibly a couple of birthdays as well).

    Can’t see it happening myself. Andrew Little is too smart to let such a target rise to the top.

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  9. Tim Ellis (253 comments) says:

    Remember also when Mr Carter got into hot water over his travel expenses last week, he said that the only people authorised by the party to speak about MPs expenses were the leader, the whip, and Mr Mallard.

    I do wonder if there is a game being played by Mr Mallard over this issue. The attacks on the Maori party, and the suggestion that the people in this case got off lightly because they were Maori, suggests to me that the Labour Party have given up on the Maori vote, and they are trying to win back the socially conservative workingmen’s club voters.

    It is interesting that there seems to be much more frequently hostile comments from Labour Party people about Mr Goff. I think Mr Goff has a lot of talent, and is very experienced and capable, but I can’t see him lasting more than a few months at this rate.

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  10. mike12 (183 comments) says:

    I think you are giving Labour far too much credit David – as much as I would love Trev the Muss to be their next leader its more likely they are simply going in different directions as they struggle to come to terms with on-going failure

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  11. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Goff has been in Parliament since 1981. Mallard has been in Parliament since 1984.

    It is like watching Chernenko and Andropov competing to run the Soviet Union.

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  12. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Goff or Mallard.

    Works for me!

    Sans faire rien.

    The Ginga would be even better.

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  13. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    what a cunning plan to completely fuck the labour party. i like it.

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  14. Danyl Mclauchlan (1,065 comments) says:

    I called this one

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  15. trout (898 comments) says:

    Yesterday’s men; both Goff and Mallard will be discarded in due course in favour of the up and comers. Hipkins, Twyford, and Shearer are finding their feet and of course the Ginga is the annointed. Not sure about Little; he is very capable but uncharismatic; could be compared to Bill Rowling.

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  16. gravedodger (1,504 comments) says:

    I for one agree with DPF’s analysis of the duck’s game plan. Hence the feigned contrition after the Henare rap etc. He has for some time seen” himself” as a leader of his rabble and if with his disastrous polling, Philin does get rolled he is probably the next best option for the government as his temper and his self opinion of ahis leadership skills it will be less than effective and as easy to work around as the present incumbent.

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  17. tvb (4,192 comments) says:

    He is going for leadership all right – with a naked appeal to the blue collar vote which has bled away to National. The blue collar vote (which is now quite small) used to be Labour’s core vote. He is Muldoonist in appeal – remember those scaps Muldoon used to have. That’s our Trev.

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  18. John Ansell (861 comments) says:

    Trevor’s first comments on Kiwiblog were the first public sign that he was planning a run for the leadership.

    Most of his comments here have been reasonable enough, and seemed designed to build a bridge that would enable him to pitch himself as a more centrist Labour leader.

    He wants to be able to say, “I’m the only one who can win back the blue collar workers who Helen drove into the arms of Key.”

    From his point of view this makes sense.

    Oh, and fabricating stories and being boorish and a disgrace to Parliament are hardly barriers to Labour leadership – those same ‘qualitites’ sustained the previous leader for 15 years.

    I’ll say one thing for Trevor: at least he had the guts to close schools that were no longer viable – including his own. The National Populists, it seems, now have a policy of only closing schools whose communities demand that they be closed.

    Ann Tolley’s statement, if accurate, surely represents a new low in political cowardice. What’s next – only jailing those who demand to be jailed? Only taxing those who demand to be taxed?

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  19. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Employment dispute for 3 years ? Feels “bullied” at work ? Who the hell would stay working at such a place ? Oh yeah, a 25-year government department jobsworth who’d never find employment in the real world.

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  20. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    whoops wrong thread. Although accidentally kind of relevant LOL

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  21. Richard Hurst (750 comments) says:

    Mallard as leader of the opposition= Duck hunting season all year round for National.
    Labour would have to be quackers to have him as their leader.

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  22. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Not sure about Little; he is very capable but uncharismatic; could be compared to Bill Rowling..”

    i agree..

    the thought of having to watch little debate ..say.. english…

    ..would drive life-long teetotallers to serious drink..

    .and cause others to drive their eyes-balls out with hot needles..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  23. Ryan Sproull (7,024 comments) says:

    Mallard as leader of the opposition= Duck hunting season all year round for National.
    Labour would have to be quackers to have him as their leader.

    He would be… fowl…

    Um.

    Also, Mallard is Latin for “bad fat”. DO NOT QUESTION ME.

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  24. vibenna (305 comments) says:

    This agent provacateur stuff is always great fund. But I think Mallard has done his time and taken his lumps. He is rehabilitated as far as I am concerned. Nobody’s perfect (except John Eales), so I don’t see what is wrong with him tilting for the leadership.

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  25. RichUncleSkeleton (5 comments) says:

    I don’t think Mallard is setting himself up for leadership.

    I think Little is the next leader, in fact it’s slightly worrying. After Labour were routed and Goff was named leader, I thought it was perfect from a National stand point, with Goff not being strong enough to truly lead I thought there would surely be messy leadership challenges that divided the party and left them weak for the next couple of elections.

    However if they stay together, and Little is able to naturally come in when he’s ready after the next election, they have a couple of well known, relatively trusted experienced MP’s (Goff, Mallard, King) at the top of the party able to support Little, and they’ve got talent coming up (off the top of my head, Chauvel, Twyford, Grant Robertson, maybe Curran) so all they need to do is ditch the dead wood (Carter, Hodgson) and they’ll be in a position to present a very strong challenge in 2014.

    Shit, if it wasn’t Labour I’d say it was a clever, coherent plan.

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  26. Manolo (13,303 comments) says:

    The idea is not without merit: a thug leading a gang of crooks!

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  27. Richard Hurst (750 comments) says:

    From Wiki description of Mallards: “..The breeding male is unmistakable, with a green head, black rear end..”

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  28. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    They breed?

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  29. s.russell (1,558 comments) says:

    I don’t think Mallard is stupid enough to be plotting to roll Goff. It would be like fighting over who gets first go with the self-disembowelling machine. Plotting to succeed Goff after 2011? That makes more sense. Labour’s leader for 2011 will be cannon fodder.

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  30. Christopher (425 comments) says:

    Only taxing those who demand to be taxed?

    I just got a hard-on.

    On-topic: I absolutely agree with DPF’s assessment. That was my first thought when I read Mallard’s post at Red Alert.

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  31. grumpy (240 comments) says:

    Nah, I think Trev’s just having fun. Still, taking such an un-PC line is not going to do his popularity outside hard line Labour supporters any harm.

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  32. Sam Buchanan (502 comments) says:

    “the man is a disgrace to the NZ Parliament, his profession and his country”

    That’s quite an accolade, and clearly makes him suitable for Labour leader, but I wouldn’t read much into Trev’s comments – he did the wacky “I am indigenous – I am from Wainuiomata” thing a while back.

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  33. starboard (2,463 comments) says:

    ..at the end of the day who really gives a flyin fuk who’s leading the labour losers..goof…mallard…full moon…they are all way passed their use by dates and irrelevant .

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  34. Trevor Mallard (245 comments) says:

    David tempted to just make a comments about penguins in the hot sun and leave it but better put it on your record, as I have for others over the years.

    I’ve worked closely with all leaders of the Labour Party back to and including Bill Rowling. I know what it takes to be Prime Minister. A long time ago, when I was a whip, I worked out that I do not have the patience or tolerance to have a leadership role in a political party.

    I am working closely with new members – I’ve had a bit of both +ve and -ve experience over the years and some of this very talented bunch check things out with me. And Darren has asked me to back him up in the House and act when he is away.

    I want to ensure that this is a one term national government.

    Hope the rest of your holiday goes well. Don’t get too much sun.

    [DPF: So you're happy to be the MP for Hutt South :-)]

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  35. Tim Ellis (253 comments) says:

    Interesting, Mr Mallard, that you didn’t your comment to express confidence in Mr Goff as leader through to the 2011 election.

    I give your leader six weeks.

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  36. Phil (125 comments) says:

    Yes Tim, it’s often what we DON’T say that speaks volumes.

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  37. Right of way is Way of Right (1,129 comments) says:

    Mr Mallard, if you truly want this to be a one term National government, you have got your work cut out for you. And your party WILL need a new leader. Those in your party with the best political acumen are unsuited to the leadership role, and this includes your current leader and deputy. It must be said that also includes yourself. Those best suited to the leadership have insufficient expereince to take the role on. One of your potentially best candidates is not even an MP, Andrew Little.

    The chances of the Labour Party forming the next government are very remote, considering they have not yet managed to form an effective opposition! And that will remain the case until your party stops getting texts from New York, and actually get’s back to it’s foundation principles and stands up for the workers and the wealth generators of this country. You know, like Paula Bennett’s doing!

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  38. Trevor Mallard (245 comments) says:

    Tim Phil – sorry didn’t think it is necessary. Phil Goff will lead the Labour Party to, and has a very good chance of winning the 2011 election. Is that clear enough for you.

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  39. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    “and has a very good chance of winning the 2011 election”

    yeah, there’s more chance of Chris Carter having to give up his seat to a flying pig

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  40. starboard (2,463 comments) says:

    Trev..if you really think Goffs gona be PM in 2011 you are thicker than I thought..I mean really Trev , how can you even say that and keep a straight face…like I said before 1) who really gives a toss who leads Labour..they are irrelevant at this time and 2) you and the rest are old retreads….Labour really does need new fresh blood if its gona make a comeback..which I cant see happenning til after Nationals forth term.

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  41. Rex Widerstrom (5,253 comments) says:

    Trevor Mallard notes:

    A long time ago, when I was a whip, I worked out that I do not have the patience or tolerance to have a leadership role in a political party.

    That’s a pity Trevor, I’d like to see you make a tilt for it (and I say that not in the reverse-psychological sense of some others above). Politics needs plain speakers who have a bit of life experience behind them and as we both know, there’s plenty of that to be had in Wainuiomata.

    As for lack of patience and tolerance, I’m surprised you weren’t taking notes during the last nine years, but as it seems you weren’t, here’s an abridged tutorial:

    - Appoint a Chief of Staff with a level of intolerance and an air of haughtiness in excess even of your own. Use him or her to frighten away any but the most supplicant of mendicants.

    - Dismiss anyone who opposes you with an air of lofty intellectual superiority. If you can, do so in couplets so the phrasing is memorable ["haters and wreckers", "cancerous and corrosive"] or use an analogy that’s likely to be equally as memorable ["last cab off the rank"].

    - Generally act as though the people who voted for you are your subjects, not your employers – speed through through their peasant villages at 180km/h, that sort of thing.

    - Refuse to meet with many groups who oppose what you’re doing and, when you do, patronise them. As a corollary, cultivate those who’ll unquestioningly accept your every whim, even if they demand in return that you look the other way while they accept questionable donations from key stakeholders in their own portfolios or shady overseas moneybags (just make sure you don’t get photographed with the same people – having a loyal footsoldier willing to throw himself between the target and the photographer comes in handy on such occasions).

    - Don’t forget to manipulate candidate selections so that people who are most likely to toe your line are selected, often ahead of local preferences. And if needs be, make sure these people stay loyal while waiting for their turn at the trough by ensuring they get cushy taxpayer-funded jobs… something like doing “consultancy” for the Environment Ministry for instance. That way you gradually deter any internal opposition by a simple process of attrition.

    See, it’s easier than you think! ;-)

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  42. CraigM (694 comments) says:

    Rex = Delightfully well said Sir.

    Legend.

    Nuff said.

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  43. Jack5 (4,565 comments) says:

    Trevor Mallard, by frequenting Kiwiblog, shows he has the first flickerings of doubt, the first inkling that what he really, truly wants is to cross from the dark side to the rightist light, from the jaws of Hell-en to take up the Key of the Kingdom.

    Just stand and cross the chamber Trevor. You can do it.

    Admit the sins of your dark Clarkist past. All will be washed away. You will start afresh, a born-again child of the right.

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  44. Hagues (711 comments) says:

    Trevor Mallard “Tim Phil – sorry didn’t think it is necessary. Phil Goff will lead the Labour Party to, and has a very good chance of winning the 2011 election. Is that clear enough for you.”

    Its clear that you are taking the piss. Or are you just talking about the Mt Roskill election?

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  45. Tim Ellis (253 comments) says:

    Mr Mallard, how about you make the claim interesting. You could offer to resign from Parliament if Mr Goff is not the Labour Party leader at the 2011 election.

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  46. thedavincimode (6,514 comments) says:

    Just a piece of shit – like the rest of them.

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  47. thedavincimode (6,514 comments) says:

    Mallard, if you actually want any credibility or respect here, then front up on all of it: Peters, Glenn, banning free speech, thieving taxpayer money to pay for Labours campaign, the low rent smear campaigns, the tragic bully boy tactics over the waterfront stadium, the lies, the police and the public service spin campaign, Hawke’s Bay Health, the KFC campaign, the “last cab off the rank”, ACC, the train set, pissing all that money up against the wall and having nothing to show for it after the best economic conditions we’ve had in the last 100 years and on and on and on… The whole sorry disgusting business that represents a 9 nine low point in NZ politics by a country mile.

    You’re an arsehole.

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  48. thedavincimode (6,514 comments) says:

    … and did I mention legitimising the theft of taxpayer money and suppression of free speech?

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  49. starboard (2,463 comments) says:

    ..actually..have you seen the state of Mallard lately , I was watchin him on parliament tv today..very stressed looking losing weight..not very healthy at all..are you ok duck..anything you wana share with us ??

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  50. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    Ya know when you start typing then go PPFFFFTTTTTTTTT Mallard is not worth the time to type….. A fool of a man..

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  51. Delivery Boy (24 comments) says:

    So let me get this right, Labour are trading in Goofy for Donald Duck?

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  52. John Ansell (861 comments) says:

    Although most Parliamentary advisors think it’s beneath the dignity of politicians to comment on blogs, I think they’re quite wrong.

    I think it’s a clever way to bridge-build and neutralise bad feelings. So I commend Trevor Mallard for commenting here, and wish more MPs would do it.

    Now, that’s got me thinking…

    Imagine if all political debates were conducted in writing in a forum such as this. MPs could not afford to waffle. They’d have to take great care over what they wrote and make every word count, as those words would linger for all to analyse and compare.

    Imagine the climate change debate conducted in such a fashion…

    [DPF: I agree it is a good bridge builder and two way dialogue with MPs is of benefit to them]

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