The next Labour Leader

August 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm by David Farrar

TV3 polled on who should replace as Leader. Now I think Goff is safe until the election, but TV3 found:

  1. 23.0% don’t care or know
  2. 21.3% said no-one
  3. 15.5% Annette King
  4. 14.8% David Cunliffe
  5. 7.6% Shane Jones
  6. 7.3% Laila Harre
  7. 3.7% Andrew Little

I think Andrew is most likely to take over after 2011.

They also report:

In a bombshell, former Labour MP Dover Samuels says that Mr Goff and his deputy should go.

“My message to the leadership, to Phil and Annette, is it’s time to step aside,” Mr Samuels says. “The retreads of yesterday have gone past their use-by date.” …

Mr Samuels it is not only Mr Goff and Ms King causing problems, he says people like Trevor Mallard and Pete Hodgson are to blame too.

What is interesting about this, is Samuels is from the right of Labour – as is Goff and King. This is not some partisan call.

And as I have blogged previously, Goff’s longevity has now become a negative in my opinion. I just find it hard to imagine the New Zealand public will vote in as Prime Minister of the sixth Labour Government a man who entered Parliament during the third National Government.

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26 Responses to “The next Labour Leader”

  1. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    He won’t step down. Goof’s been in parliament long enough for the idea that he should aim for the big prize because he’s earned it to be indelible. He’ll go for an election, get 24% of the party vote, become ambassador to Mongolia and get an ONZM from nice Mr Key.

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  2. Simon (698 comments) says:

    Roger Douglas.

    Yeah Dover knows when you have to go you have to go.

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  3. Rex Widerstrom (5,349 comments) says:

    40% percent either don’t care or think no one should.

    I’d like to see a similar poll for National… I suspect it’d be lower of course because Key has a higher recognition and job approval factor.

    But the “plague on both your houses” (or as I prefer to think of it “F*** off, the lot of yous”) vote is encouraging for anyone who, like me, has had enough of the Stepford Politicians we’ve had for several decades now.

    Wasn’t Trevor’s name on the list? I’d like to see Labour led by him and National by… oh I dunno… the ghost of Trevor De Cleene (Wikipedia link for the youngsters).

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  4. salt (133 comments) says:

    21.3% think “no-one”? Christ almighty. I hope that means that they support Goff (and I’m not a Labour supporter by the way) – otherwise we have a serious crisis of lack of basic intelligence in this country.

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  5. salt (133 comments) says:

    ..although the fact that just over 10% thought either Laila Harre or Andrew Little should be the new leader of our second most powerful political party does make me question democracy’s value a little bit.

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  6. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    “Samuels is from the right of Labour – as is Goff and King. This is not some partisan call.”

    Maybe Goff and King questioned the size of Bill Lui’s citizenship koha?

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  7. wikiriwhis business (3,883 comments) says:

    Goff will be around for the next election.

    Knowing Liarbour, they’ll trash him when he loses.

    He’ll have to retire. Same as Pete Hodgson. Getting pretty wrinkley.

    Socialist Sue unfortunately still has a way to go…… in opposition though hehehe. Moroney and Bradford will be dusty relics by the time Liarbour ever get back into govt.

    As Red noted, socialism is being rejected world wide.

    Wasn’t it just last year Garth George predicted National was in its death throes.

    It’s Liarbour Garth!!!!

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  8. Whafe (650 comments) says:

    In all honesty, what do any Labour MP’s etc aspire to?

    Sweet FA really, I mean take a gander at the last decade, is there really another human (am being polite) that would like to take on the role of running a party that has foundations built from the lies and BS of the last decade, very much doubt it……..

    The Labour MP’s are brainwashed by the scary beast Helen Clark, they are to scared to put their nuts on the line and make a stand…… They all piss their pants in order to please Helen….. PPPFfffffTtttttttt

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  9. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    Come on guys. 21% of the population are probably hardened nats. They said they support none of the labour MPs as leader. So what?

    DPF is being naughty suggesting that Little will be leader. He ought to know that Little will be a very effective backroom person but unfortunately politics takes more than this.

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  10. spector (180 comments) says:

    I would’ve voted for Trevor myself. I quite like the guy. It’s just a shame he had to waste so many years under the likes of the Clarks, the Mahareys and the tragic old lesbians.

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  11. davidp (3,580 comments) says:

    What percentage didn’t realise that Goff was the current leader?

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  12. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Goff is the right person for the job!

    We love you Phil!

    You are doing great, and remember don’t change a thing.

    Helen, Mike, Trevor, Annette, Darren, and the rest of the Crazy gang may be saying awful things about you right now.

    But you have our vote if those Pollsters ring up anytime soon. We will vote with Gusto for our mate Phil.

    Bless.

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  13. Sonny Blount (1,780 comments) says:

    Hilarious that Helen worked to make NZ independent of the rules and customs of other countries by removing knighthoods and the privy council, and now she has gone to work for an organisation that attempts to establish rules and customs to run other countries.

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  14. thedavincimode (6,711 comments) says:

    mickysavage

    “… but unfortunately politics takes more than this.”

    So it would seem micky. Dishonesty, duplicity, an ability to steal from taxpayers and be prepared to legitimise that theft when sprung, preparedness to ban free speech, collude with crooks and shit down the necks of the people that you purport to represent, piss hard-earned taxpayer money away on bribes, corrupting public servants …

    But the worm has turned and consequently, if Andrew Little doesn’t have those qualities, then perhaps in this new age he is in fact the man for the job.

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  15. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    TDM is exactly right, the Internet has seen a seismic shift in news distribution.

    News on the TV is not quite as balanced as perhaps it should be. Newspapers like controversy, so they court both camps.

    People choose what they read on the Internet, and that is why the desperate and blatant attempts at Obfusacation by the likes of MS are quite revealing.

    People want the truth. Labour and the Socialists world wide are losing ground fast. Found out for what they are. Despicable control freaks with no individual talent. Not many entrepreneurs are socialists. How many Labour types ever go into business and create wealth?

    Then the Tories are re-occupying the centre ground. I await Nationals second term with interest. It will be a lot more reforming.

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  16. Whafe (650 comments) says:

    This sums up Labour so so well GM – Despicable control freaks with no individual talent.

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  17. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    As I mentioned before – I think Mallard wants it http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/2009/08/trevor-man-who-would-be-king.html

    Thnx – Lee MWT

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  18. Inventory2 (10,300 comments) says:

    As Sir Robert Muldoon used to say – “The next Labour Party Prime Minister is not yet born”!!

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  19. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Apparently they are hatched from Pods.

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  20. Steve (4,547 comments) says:

    Liabour may go for joint leadership amongst 4 or more of them. Doesn’t matter, Helen calls the shots.

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  21. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    God this is funny. Labour strategically have placed the night watchman into bat out the first test with the bottom order. Hope the academy has a few new comers training.

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  22. wreck1080 (3,884 comments) says:

    Piss of the feminists who lead labour, and install Shane Jones.

    He’s a funny guy, should be able to transform labour into a decent blokes party again.

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  23. trout (937 comments) says:

    Clark and her supporters took over the steering of the good ship Labour; guided it away from traditional labour values and stranded it on a sandbank of confused feminist ideology. It is no wonder that the MP’s she left behind look a confused and disorganized lot; any leader from that group is going to have difficulty righting the ship. The only group they can say they fairly represent now are the Beneficiaries and given the rorts that are being exposed even Annette King is having difficulty supporting the people that were bought off to supply votes.

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  24. Ross Miller (1,700 comments) says:

    mjanderson said at 11.24 …. “David Parker could be a good pick!”

    Think she forgot the ‘r’ after ‘p’.

    Seriously though. I suspect there is some anxiety in Government circles that Phil might be rolled.

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  25. Craig Ranapia (1,915 comments) says:

    Who’s going to tell Duncan Garner that Lila Haare can’t become leader of the Labour Party until she signs up, get selected and back into Parliament wearing a red rosette and wins a leadership challenge? I’m reliably informed that I’ll win Lotto Powerball (despite buying a ticket three times a year, tops) before any of the above happens.

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