The third man
August 27th, 2009 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar
A friend of mine has acquired this photo of Walter Nash and Sid Holland. Can anyone identify who the third man in the photo is?
Also if anyone knows where the photos was taken, and in what circumstances, that would be a bonus.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
The Third Man is Billy Birmingham. No idea about the chap in the photo though.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
John Diefenbaker, Canadian PM(1957-1963)???
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Don’t even know which ones are Walter and Sid, let alone the ’3rd man’.
Still waiting for the next wide world of sports. Billies a great man.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Further re Diefenbaker…. Does this match?
http://www.nndb.com/people/492/000111159/john-diefenbaker-1.jpg
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
…….the third man is Jim Anderton
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Jack5 is on the money, I think. See http://www.hhof.com/legendsofhockey/graphspot/one_clancy06.jpg for another photograph of Diefenbaker (on the left).
Vote:No definite knowledge of the circumstances of this picture, but I recall that he did a bit of a tour of commonwealth countries including Australia and NZ in 1958, so Nash would have been PM at the time, and Diefenbaker would have known Sid Holland from prior meetings.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
What, can’t check the EXIF data for yourself?
Oh, wait…
Patrick: He’s aging backwards?! The Curious Case of Jim Anderton.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Well done Jack. It does look like it may be Diefenbaker and that would explain why you had either PM and the former PM or the PM and Opposition Leader (depending on year taken) with him together.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Diefenbaker took over as Canadian PM in 1957, only months before Holland stood down.
From memory – wasn’t Holland a Mason? ‘Cos Diefenbaker was heavily involved in the Masons.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I can’t see the resemblance bewteen Diefenbaker and the man in the picture myself, but it sounds like the facts fit. Great thing these interwebs.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Not Forrest Gump then?
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Looks like Kiwi Keith to me.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I used to work with a guy who used to work at EMI in Australia. He says that Billy only cranks out a Third Man album when he’s short of cash. He’ll usually lob into EMI unannounced about a month from Xmas with a master tape and they then have a mad scramble to get the CD produced, get the marketing done etc in time for Xmas.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I too, cannot see any Diefenbaker similarity in the photo when compared with the other shots. The facts might fit – but the photos certainly do not.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
dpf,why do you want to know?
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Diefenbaker visited NZ in Dec 1958. Nash was PM and Holyoake, not Holland, was the Leader of the Opposition. Photo doesnt look like Diefenbaker though.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
That is not Dief. Looks antipodean.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Grandpa Munster
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Doesn’t look like Diefenbaker.
And Billy Birmingham is the Twelfth Man.
Vote:August 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Must all be Kiwi’s.
The haircuts are all pure NZ. ( off season for the sheep shearers ).
Vote:August 28th, 2009 at 8:40 am
larry, curly and moe
Vote:August 28th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Re adam and wally 11.35 and 8.40am
1. Nash was English, DIefenbaker a Canadian, so the haircuts must have been pretty much the style internationally in those days.
2. We’re a lot more dandified bunch these days, focusing on hair styles. Give me the clean cut Romans, the Roundheads, and the spartan look of these politicians’ days — no pony tails, no rinse, and bald was okay and wigs were not.
Vote:August 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Isn’t it Barry Soper?
Vote:August 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Dobbie –
Funny.
Vote:August 28th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I think you’ll find that Billy Birmingham is actually the 12th man
Vote:August 29th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Their used to be an “Onion” of the Dairy Board (I think) and another similar name (like Hogg of the Pork Board)
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