Good grief! Bill English’s problems didn’t go away over night! We all had our fingers crossed, didn’t we? And our eyes squeezed tight, wishing?
I guess it’s because he’s Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand.
That’ll be why this silly story just won’t dissapear!
Village Idiot – This is just phase one of a Machiavellian plan. It is just the beginning. Phase two will involve Jim Anderton’s pseudo leadership money and the Green Party’s taxpayer funded ‘superannuation’ houses.
I had the tv on this morning in the motel, as you do when away for work…
Benard Hicky is suck a drama queen. He has some very valid points re the Crafer Families farms for neglect of calves, of which I find shocking to say the least and I dont agree at all with what has happened to these animals.
But hearinig B Hicky talking about how they had their throats cut was farsical….. It is times like that, thay I dislike the media more than I normally do….
Working in Ohakune today, nothing like sitting in the office with the backdrop being My Ruapahu…
Your razor blade poll is missing an option … I gave up using a blade years ago when I started a beard … and now use an electric trimmer.
I fear that you are right PHILU … and I fear for my grandaughter who hopefully will [have to] live through it. Will we for instance build dykes to protect the ‘slum’ areas of South Dunedin, though rapidly being rebuilt with pensioner and other new homes … and I note that spring high tides are close to the tourist road down Otago Peninsula that the Council is spending on widening. There is a guy down here concerned at the loss of habitat from seabed reclaimed by that work … when the sea is going to reclaim much more further down the harbour at Harwood for instance. I have a freind down there who doesn’t [want to] believe in Global Warming and rising sea levels in his lifetime.
PENTWIG …. as a yachtie I am aware of the weather and it is becoming more extreme which leads me to give some credit to GW warnings. But there are ostriches putting their heads in the sand of both the animal and human kind in recent times.
That bastion of reason, logic, objectivity and intelligence – the Dominion Post has a headline reading “Plan To Allow Election Smear Campaigns”.
This story has a lot of handwringing about the ‘Swift Boat’ campaign in America (as if the idea of ‘President Kerry’ appealed to anyone other than Bin Laden), and a few leaflets printed by the Exclusive Brethren chuch in 2005.
Good to know they are simply reporting facts about Simon Powers proposals and not injecting their own ideology and opinions and fears into the story.
What I find amusing is how attempts to curb others freedom of speech rights always seem to come from those quarters who think they are going to lose if the truth about them became public knowledge.
You can have left wingers screaming from rooftops that Don Brash/Richard Prebble/Rodney Hide (etc) are dangerous right wing fanatics and they rub their hands together at the publicity – and potential to gain right wing votes from the additional publicity; but anyone pointing out the left are dangerous fanatics seeking to damage our nation is viewed as some sort of conspiracy which requires banning.
Perhaps the left, if you scratch the surface, know they have no moral legitimacy and the average elector knows it too.
I have been a mariner for 40 years, the last 11 internationally, and have found no significant weather pattern changes in that time which include the periodic changes. In 10 years time when the data from the newly placed global marine weather buoys is colatted this will become apparent IMHO.
“A spokeswoman for Customs Minister Maurice Williamson said he could not comment on the case as it was an operational matter.”
This might be a good time to note that Ministers should not be able to hide behind the ‘operational matter’ excuse too much. If is fair enough when a department is carrying out an active investigation or a judicial process is being worked through. It would be quite improper for say the Police Minister to get involved in a criminal investigation or the Prime Minister to get involved in a Serious Fraud Office investigation which touches on an opposition party.
In this instance, there is no ‘active’ investigation, the guy has been searched with negative results and let through. What is at issue is whether methods in Customs result in some people being unnecessarily for searches, investigations, etc. If so what can be done to sort out the problem. This is not an operational matter but one where the Minister is quite entitled to get involved.
This sort of Ministerial comment is what starts driving nails in a governing party’s coffin as an election looms. IMO this particular Minister helped the demise of the previous National government by not shutting down a ‘fruitcake’ idea to privatise all roads sooner.
The mighty “Justice” Judith Potter jails bad man for THREE YEARS for road rage attack which resulted in the victim later dying…ho hum…that’ll learn ‘em good …wont do that again…massive deterent to other scum…heh..welcome to NZ…
In regards to the pole on razor’s no options for me either, i put the scissors to work once every month or so, as i do with my hair every year or two. simple.
the above brings me to your post. I also get hounded by customs every time i go through. tehy look all through my stuff, all of it, it takes ages, i holds me up and fucks me off. All these questions about white powder and other BS.
New Zealand and Australia are the worst. every time they do it.
Other countries seem to be a bit more mature and give my apearance a little more respect.
Kiwi’s and Ozzies though don’t seem to be so mature. they think cause i dont look like every other sheep that i must be adruga trafficer or some kind of enemy to society.
Who wants to join me in a campaign to outlaw religious instruction to our children?
Just like for sexual relations, drinking, driving etc there should be an age where children may give informed consent to such indoctrination. I suggest about 45 years old, but it’s negotiable.
And for starters, close down those subversive, money-grubbing so-called faith based schools!
So, Luc, if I understand you correctly, you want a law (yet another law) to forbid parents from instructing their children in their religious faith — whether it be Catholicism, Baptistism, Calathumpianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam …
The mighty “Justice” Judith Potter jails bad man for THREE YEARS for road rage attack which resulted in the victim later dying…ho hum…that’ll learn ‘em good …wont do that again…massive deterent to other scum…heh..welcome to NZ…
You beat me to it Starboard.
What a bloody slap with a wet bus ticket – pathetic!
As far as I’m concerned this piece of excrement should have been done for murder, and got no less than 10 years without parole!
menace, surely we all “indoctrinate” our children. But most people are content to call that good parenting.
I doubt you’d object when we “indoctrinate” our children with manners, moral standards, “look left before crossing the road” etc etc.
So just what is it about “indoctrination” that you object to? And why do you suppose that the things you would prefer they be taught be any more accurate, reliable, useful or sound than what other parents might choose to “indoctrinate” their children with?
My kids are both at religious schools, although I myself am an atheist and I have no clue what my wife is because I have never asked her. They will make up their own minds. They know where I sit on the whole religion thing.
Well, Virtual, we finally managed to get a law against all physical violence inflicted on our children, so we gotta strike while the iron’ s hot!
Moral standards are somewhat problematical when one’s own country sends our troops to fight a meaningless war, killing mainly civilians and impeding any progress towards a sustainable peace in that country. And when the ” leader of the free world does the same”, but on a grander scale, in many places.
Rather than teaching a particular version of moral standards, far better to stick to the law and let people work out their own answers to the various conundrums that arise in the course of our daily lives. Laws are relatively concrete, as are in fact, everyday societal norms, unlike the moving feast of moral standards.
And using state money to subsidise the willful ignorance that is inherent in religion is a gross misuse of state funds, in my opinion.
Similarly, concepts such as altruism exist outside of a religious framework, and are all the better for it. Altruism in response to the threats or rewards of religions (particularly our Judeo-Christian framework) is simply selfishness.
… and I KNOW he is.
Trouble is, these kinds of idiots are gaining traction, and influencing policy, etc.
Just look at the czars that Obamination is surrounding himself with. Or our last government for that matter.
The future looks increasingly scary with this sort of influx.
I’m obviously speaking in regards to religion.
Manners, working for a living etc is logically correct.
So Menace, indoctrination is ok provided it meets ‘your’ “logically correct” standard? And of course, excludes any moral foundation as espoused in, for instance, the bible?
You ignore the fact that most ‘freedoms’ we recognise in the west are a direct derivation of Judeo-Christian values as outlined in the Bible (well until recently anyway). Freedom of speech, democracy, many of our laws, freedom of association, etc are all things that many nations without a Judeo-Christian heritage simply do not have.
People like you, and the ideas you put forth, truly scare me!
As Rakaia sayith the bible has its roots in pre bible times.
The morals we generaly adhere to these days are logical, they are based on the fact that i have equal right as you have and that we should not impose on each others.
Fortunaitly it does not require a man written book that became very popular for these ideas to become obviously correct and practised.
I will clarify, when i talk about religious indoctrination i am referring to public school level.
If it is your personal choice to send your children to a private religious school be my guest.
The god stuff was rammed down my throat and i wasnt made aware of other choice’s, im not bitter about it, in hind sight it was a good lesson that doing so with out other info is dangerous for the Kids in my opinion.
I was a bit shocked when i eventually realised what a load of shit(in my opinion) had been forced on me
“a direct derivation of Judeo-Christian values as outlined in the Bible (well until recently anyway). Freedom of speech, democracy, many of our laws,”
Many of our laws have become fairer and more humane than earlier bible and God derived legal processes. For example we are fortunate we don’t still have Trials by Ordeal which for a time replaced previous non-Christian versions of justice.
nickb and others. For murder the offender would have needed to intentionally inflict injuries likely to lead to death and death resulted. As the victim fell and hit his head this criteriaon was not met though it was a fairly close call IMO. Sentencing precedents would have left the judge with little room to manoevre. Perhaps she could have started at 5 and allowed only one year off for the rather late guilty plea.
IMO someone who commits a moderate assault which happens to end in death or grave injury should be looking for at least 10 yeard.
In addition, although I don’t have time to dig up the link, in a recent interview on http://www.democracynow.com Imran Khan spoke of official Pakistani figures of 14 militants and 700 civilians killed in US drone attacks in Pakistan. Actually, the part of Pakistan that used to be part of the Pashtun community before the British scrawled the Durand Line down the middle!
I would like to think this issue is serious enough not to get bogged down in nitpicking but to answer the wider question: do we have have legitimate cause to send troops to kill Afghans?
I say not, but I am keen to hear reasoned arguments, especially non-racist arguments, to the contrary.
Malcolm, such a debate would be informative, for sure. Maybe DPF can suggest it to Maori TV.
Just glancing at the article, I think it is a bit of a straw man argument as most of us are well aware that Maori was a tribal society. This does not invalidate mechanisms for lifting Maori incomes and health outcomes, for example.
But it does validate allowing Tuhoe, who appear to have the strongest individual nationalistic identity, a degree of autonomy in the heartland. Any agreement on that?
Nice work using Democracy Now as a source. What do you do for an encore? MoveOn?
do we have legitimate cause to send troops to kill Taliban thugs?
Yes, we do. Even more so considering Pakistan’s started to pull its finger out in terms of fighting terrorist forces along the border. Remember when this was “the good war?” You want to leave the Afghans to rot again like we did in 1989? It’ll be tough but no one wins an insurgency way by half-arsing it. Even Bush learned that lesson.
Luc, I think his point is that via the Treaty Settlements etc the government has/is giving a lot of cash and assets to tribal structures with collective ownership, but which haven’t shown that they are beneficial to the individuals under them.
He points out that collective ownership and tribal governance is incompatible with a western capitalist society and will probably just lead to under-utilised assets and nepotism.
That article was from 2000, but is prophetic. Now Pita Sharples et al are pushing more of this idea that the maori tribal structure/culture is some magic thing which will raise the aspirations and living standard of maori, despite the fact that there has been scant evidence of this. With or without substantial funding from the taxpayer.
This is another good and related article about Samoa:
I see you reworded my question, Hurf, and fair enough. My answer is still No. This operation has been botched from start to finish. The Taliban were not involved in 9/11 and were undoubtedly as surprised as the rest of the world. Their sin was not handing Bin Laden over to the US without some modicum of procedure – the US demanded instant rendition. For that sin, thousands of Afghan civilians have died quite unnecessarily.
But I don’t care for or about the Taliban; that is a matter for Afghans to sort out.
And if indeed you want to ” defeat,” whatever that means in this context, the Taliban, ” half-arsing it” is exactly what is going on and will continue to go on even with the proposed surge. Iran is criticised for its dickey election but Afghanistan’s was just as bad and this is the govt we are propping up. Where’s the consistency?
We have succeeded in the main mission. Al Qaeda is crippled, although certainly we need to keep the pressure on. I have no objection to fighting terrorists in Pakistan, but not in a clumsy manner that destroys the lives and incomes of locals.
Imagine if it was happening to us.
Like all imperial adventures, when the time comes, it’s best just to quit. As Ghandi said to the British: Don’t worry about what happens after you go, that’s none of your business. Just pack up and leave!
Sarah Palin is about to release her autobiography and what I find astonishing (apart from its grammatically incorrect title) is to find out the book will be 400 pages long.
How on earth a lot of drivel about driving children to hockey games, seeing Russia from her house, being Mayor of the Alaska equivalent of Naseby, Governor of a barren wasteland and her seemingly deliberate foot tripping of John McCain could run to so many pages is beyond me!
America is certainly in a sorry, sorry way if someone like her is viewed as a ‘Hero’ and 2012 Presidential candidate.
Do they think the only criterion for letting someone out early is if they think the person won’t affend again? What about the major purpose of sentences serving as a deterrent to others? Does that not matter any more? I can now fake my own death, claim insurance and I’ll be out in a year? The dim-wittedness of this parole board is astounding.
I reckon ban parole, dismantle the ridiculous parole board. Their existence only serves as an opportunity to make more mistakes.
Iran is criticised for its dickey election but Afghanistan’s was just as bad and this is the govt we are propping up. Where’s the consistency?
The few problems in regards to counting the vote (what do you expect from somewhere as backward as Afghanistan?) aren’t even in the same league as the blatant vote rigging and subsequent brutal crackdown in Iran. Welcome to international power politics anyway, you cretin.
but not in a clumsy manner that destroys the lives and incomes of locals.
Yeah, like all those “wedding parties” with the bearded women.
Imagine if it was happening to us.
Your kind would love it if it was happening to us.
Wow, congratulations, you’re even more of a tool than I thought. Remember when this was “the good war?”
CHINA’S ambition to create “green cities” powered by huge wind farms comes with a dirty little secret: Dozens of new coal-fired power plants need to be installed as well.
Part of the reason is that wind power depends on, well, the wind. To safeguard against blackouts when conditions are too calm, officials have turned to coal-fired power as a backup.
This is of course the problem with many of the alternative green energy options; that they mostly rely on intermittent generation. Whether wind, solar, wave action, etc and to a lesser degree hydro. Although, as we’ve observed in recent years, even hydro has its limitations.
Without coal/oil/gas fired, and/or nuclear power generation there is no way any nation can guarantee continuous supply. Even NZ with ~70% hydro still needs such alternatives on standby – and we’re better set up in this regard than most. If we’re not prepared to use coal, oil or gas fired generation then nuclear is the only real ‘green’ alternative. Although I’m sure most ‘greenies’ would debate the point.
Just had a look at Frogblog. Amazing the amount of posts.
The comments are on par with other blogs, that’s if two hits is a good thing.
FFS no wonder the bastards plague this blog, nobody cares about Frogblog.
Not a lot care about the Red Rag either, are they up to speed with daylight saving yet? Resident duck would not know night from day.
Now that Howie the Mowree is over, the TVNZ clowns can go back home and have a few days rest. I have had enough of them banging the drum and want some real news. But they will not give it a rest, the Mowree drum will be banged on all of the morning.
Waiting for the Greens bullshit about Sir Howard Morrison, what a great conservationist he was…. spin it
Ah, Hurf, now you are starting to hit your stride. A couple of after-work beers settling in now? Good for you.
No, I never considered this a good war. We should never have gone after the Taliban. A Special Forces mission could have taken care of Bin Laden and his gang. If the US couldn’t do it on their own, I am sure the Israelis would have been happy to lend a practised hand
Your “few problems” amount to hundreds of thousands of rigged votes and pressure from both candidate’s forces and the Taliban that deterred people from voting in many areas.
What have you got against wedding parties? Even the US has admitted to many instances of slaughter of civilians at family gatherings etc. Some may be played up, for sure, but the evidence is overwhelming. The US calls them mistakes, and fair enough, but these mistakes occur so often that the conclusion is that Afghan civilian lives have no value.
My objection is not the goal of getting Al Qaeda, but the laissez faire attitude towards civilian deaths. If that makes me a tool, my friend, so be it.
Yeah Steve. Hansen the Jew-haters blog and Elijah the whankers blog are similar–slightly better than phil the phool—he gets 300 posts with no comments. The Frog is actually quite good if he gets two comments per post.
Yeah, it makes you a tool. It makes you a bigger tool for playing the race card. It makes you a large tool for not recognising that in a guerilla war, civilian casualties will always be inevitable in such a situation and that the only thing that can be done to mitigate them is continuing surgical strikes and application of special forces. It makes you a massive tool for applying moral equivilency to the Afghanistan and Iran elections. If you were any more of a tool I could use you to assemble a bookcase.
Hi Johnboy, you big brave boy you, hiding behind a pseudonym. Never mind.
Please don’t call me a Jew-hater. Objecting to the actions of Zionists and Israel the state does not and should not in any way indicate that I hate Jews, because I don’t.
When I broke up with my one and only only Jewish girlfriend it was nothing to do with her being a Jew. Quite the contrary. She just objected to my (then) wandering tendencies
Since you have obviously visited my blog, please feel free to engage me on the facts. I only moderate it to keep out the anti-Semites who otherwise would flood my comments sections. I would post anti-Arab comments quite happily, because that’s just simple racism as opposed the absolutely heinous crime of anti-Semitism, but have not had any.
Not Phool’s fault he does not get comments ..
..just that nobody cares for link junkies..
..that constantly hijack blogs to…
..enhance self importance..
…should I use two or three full stops before or after a part sentence..??
“the only thing that can be done to mitigate them is continuing surgical strikes”
You mean like Gaza, Hurf. That was really surgical, wasn’t it. Everyone could see that. Such restraint. How magnificent it was to see those surgical explosions. Just tiny pin-pricks really. And there were hardly any casualties at all, were there. Apart from the terrorists that is. A text-book operation in every way.
Air temperatures have been falling for years. Satellites show that 1998 was the warmest recent year and that a cooling trend started in 2002. Even the land-based thermometer data, which is corrupted by artificial heating sources close to 89% of its thermometers and which is heavily “corrected”, now shows a cooling trend developing from 2006.
The alarmists recently switched to ocean temperature to measure global warming.
The alarmists claim the world is still warming, that heat is building up in the oceans, and that the ocean temperature is rising and rising fast. These claims implicitly depend on a time period to say what a “trend” is, because temperatures fluctuate. The alarmists provide the context by showing trends of 20 to 50 years. This is a clever trick to reframe the debate, and essential to their case.
Ocean temperatures have only been measured properly from mid 2003, when the Argo network became operational. Over 3,000 Argo floats cover all the world’s oceans. They dive down to measure temperatures, then resurface to radio back the information. The previous XBT system did not monitor huge areas of ocean, did not go as deep, and was much less accurate.
Ocean temperatures are dropping slightly. The Argo data shows that the oceans have been cooling slightly since mid 2003.
Short-term trends contradict the alarmist claims. Our best data, from satellites and Argo, shows that the air and oceans have not warmed for at least five years. The world is now cooling slightly, so there is no heat accumulating. Some natural cooling force is currently stronger than the warming due to human emissions.
Long-term trends contradict the alarmist claims. The world has been recovering from the little ice age, warming at a steady trend rate since 1750 with alternate warming and cooling oscillations of about 30 years. The pattern suggests we have just finished the last warming, and have entered a cooling period until about 2030.
The latest alarmist claims are a bluff. The alarmist claims only appear credible if trends shorter than 10 years or longer than 50 years are ignored. But it will take time to inform the public and politicians that the alarmist’s claims are baseless. With the US climate bill now being debated and the Copenhagen climate conference coming up in December 2009, they only need to make the public believe their schtick for a few months.
Problems with alarmist graphs of ocean heat. They omit Argo data by stopping in 2003, or contradict it by showing ocean warming continuing through 2006.
B’tselem is an Israeli human rights organisation, run by Jews within Israel, who apply rigorous standards to their analysis.
Out of 1387 deaths, Hurf, it finds only 330 were militants (and Hamas did not engage and lost the least).
And do you know how the Israelis opened Operation Cast Lead?
Not only was their first strike on a police graduation ceremony (police in Gaza are mainly traffic control) but the general attack was timed to coincide for the end of the school day, when the narrow streets were crowded with children. Just kids wanting to go home.
Just go visit the site, Hurf, and look at the truth. I promise, you will not be struck blind!
“Just go visit the site, Hurf, and look at the truth. I promise, you will not be struck blind!”
Problem is Luc, he probably won’t even visit it or if he does he’ll just scorn it as propaganda. You’ll find on this blog many who’ve been sucked into the vortex of useful idiocy that is blindly Israel-first. Blind as-in, incapable of being impartial.
The irony is, people like Hurf and others like him, see straight through lefty idiots like the Greens and Liarbore who commit execrable acts “in the name of the cause.” And yet while they see that folly perfectly clearly, for some reason they can’t see that blindly supporting Israel’s unnecessary and counter-productive aggression is a precise mirror.
Thank you Reid. I see this slavish pro-Israel bias as racism, pure and simple. I was raised in a strongly pro-Israel household and only started researching the conflict in my 30s. It didn’t take me long to work out who was suffering the injustice, without in anyway detracting from the tragedy of the Holocaust.
Europeans are an inherently racist lot. Because Israel (those cowering behind the wall) is largely European, our default setting is to side with them.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t advocate expelling Israel’s Jews. I just advocate equal application of the principles of human rights.