Mike Moore on Progressives
Had to laugh reading a recent Q&A transcript:
PAUL: But what is he doing? Is he handing the Progressives to Labour, is that what he’s doing?
MIKE: There’s nothing to hand across – except this. There’ll be 38 activists who’ll want to go on the party list, who’ll want jobs in head office, in the leader’s office and they represent frequently the most unpleasant and the most unattractive side of the left. And they will burrow in – they’re the chardonnay socialists who use the word mate because they think workers use it, and then they go to their vineyards and call each other furtively “comrade”. They are not pleasant and they are not votable.
It will be interesting to see how many Progressive activists get places on the Labour List. In the meantime Jim keeps claiming extra salary and funding by pretending to be a party leader.
September 19th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Anderton is the reason MMP should be binned, his blatant troughing as the ” leader” of a political party is nothing short of treason.
This twat is in parliament under false pretenses, his sham party is nothing more than a gouge at the taxpayers expense.
Eventually he will wake up to the fact that he doesn’t have the mad witch to run interference for him any longer, hats off to Phool for leading him like a lamb to the slaughter over the English saga.
If it all turns to custard, as it looks like it will, it will be all down Jim’s leg, how sad, never mind, fetch the axe.
September 19th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
come off it dpf..!
moore is barking..!
“..and then they go to their vineyards and call each other furtively “comrade”..”
whoar..!
who knew..?
‘reds under the grapes..!’
eh..?
phil((whoar.co.nz)
September 19th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
scanner..what is ‘turning to custard’..
is english…
and any credibility he may have had..
..as a restraint-preaching finance minister..
if he trys that schtick again..
i can’t see anyone being able to keep a straight face..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 19th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
“..In the meantime Jim keeps claiming extra salary and funding by pretending to be a party leader..”
wot..?..kinda like your man dunne..?
and look what they have achieved..
anderton..kiwibank..for starters..
dunne..families commission..for both starters..and finishers..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
[DPF: Dunne has not announced his party will not contest the party vote at the next election. Anderton has]
September 19th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Hasn’t his mate Pagani got a good sinecure then among the comrades?
September 19th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Don’t forget Jim’s factory gave us the shopping trolley!
September 19th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Time to push for the one man bands to be declared as independent MP’s instead of party leaders, after all how can you claim to be a party leader whilst standing there like “Nigel No Mates” , it’s just like a list MP claiming for an electorate office?
September 19th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Sorry Johnboy, Jim’s brother’s factory gave us the shopping trolley, and when he went away Jim ran it and almost wrecked it
September 19th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
W(H)uck you are telling that Jim can’t even drive a shopping trolley!!!! I knew it—–He’s a useless prick!
September 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Anderton Engineering it was called. Does it still exist??
September 19th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Philu we all think Dunne is as big a trougher as the next.
Prosecute him and Anderton for fraud, they are both disgusting, narcissistic egotistical parasites IMO, true shit stains on the underpants of our parliamentary system
September 19th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
W(h)uck nickb it would be a brave man who was prepared to inspect the underpants of our honourable parliamentarians of whatever sex or colour!
September 19th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
haha indeed.
It just makes me so whucking mad to see whankers like them so blatantly ripping off the public tit
September 19th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Little W(h)illy W(h)English the dipton double dipper is of course an honourable man and needs all the financial support that us poor peasantry can afford.——”Throw another cleaning wench into the expense account will you Jeeves, their all tax deductible you know”.
September 19th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Johnboy, settle down now, times are tough, and people need all the help they can get.
Indeed it is a measure of how bad things are that a Cabinet Minister on $250K needs a $20 per week top up for a cleaner.
September 19th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Yeah I know nickb. Us right thinking fellows out here in peasant land do our bit for the bastards and give them a decent (for MMP) majority and what do they do to us in return (while bleating about self control and wise investment) snuffle in the trough worse than any labour party pig.
If you are reading this W(h)illy I think you are a sad assed, pathetic prick and you are an embarrasment to me personally for voting national.
I hope that the voters of Clutha remember this and shaft you next time they get the chance.
If you are reading this John thank you for taking away any chance W(h)illy had of being PM and give him a new job next term as minister of racing or somesuch.
September 19th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Mike Moore represents what was once amicable about the Labour party. He is not a socialist or an ideologically blinkered left-wing zealot. He joined Labour [like Richard Prebble} because [back then] they saw National as the party of born to rule arrogance and privilege.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Moore merely shows us what out right arrogance is in parliament.
he knows he is a one man band and has no party but claims all he can get.
So do others.
Are they hypocritical?
Yes
Are they crooks?
No according to the rules.
do we trust them?
some do for they get voted in each election.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Anyone want to draft a private members bill which will prevent people from joining two political parties at the same time so one can prevent a certain party leader from grabbing $13,000 for being a leader of a party[ and a spokesperson for another party] by holding onto his members who work for that other party.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Anderton is the reason MMP should be binned his blatant troughing as the ” leader” of a political party is nothing short of treason.: Scanner
Scanner you egg, what on *earth* has MMP got to do with it?
September 20th, 2009 at 3:24 am
Anderton got in before MMP, under New Labour. He has enough local loyalty to remain in as long as he likes, but let’s face it, it became clear after the first term in government that he realised Labour had returned to its leftwing roots enough for him – the Alliance wingnuts like Harre (who was seriously interested in controlling the economy and business) didn’t think so, and have reaped the political wilderness such that they can barely beat Libertarianz in the party vote. Anderton is comfortable with Labour, but it was to Labour’s advantage in 2002 that he brought along a second MP, and since 2005 mopped up a few votes that might have gone NZ First or Green. Now it’s just the Jim Ol’ Son’ glee club, and it’s time to retire.
Can’t wait for Dunne to be next, he’s younger, but they both went through 4 parties – Anderton had Labour, New Labour, Alliance and Jim Anderton’s Progressives), Dunne has gone through Labour, Future NZ, United Party, United Future, having merged with Asia Pacific United Party, Christian Democrats/Future NZ (Mk2 and unrelated) and the Outdoor Recreation Parties. At least Dunne once got a shot in the arm from desperate National voters wanting to give Labour a coalition partner alternative to the Greens. Now he’s a cheerleader for a useless bureaucracy and an exhorbitantly expensive motorway. Time for the Nats to have a serious go at unseating him by abolishing the Families Commission, make him pull out from the government in a fit of pique, and for the people of Ohariu to shake their heads at what he has become. A pragmatic guy, who got lucky a couple of times, but trades his reasonable approach to issues for attention seeking headlines.
September 20th, 2009 at 5:06 am
The cost to the country must be greater than just the allowance paid as a leader, there must be staff attached to these two “leaders”, that cost would be lost into Parliamentary Services somewhere, plus of course the limos, might make interesting reading?
September 20th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Matt McCarten had this in the Herald on Sunday this morning:
“In left-wing politics, principles are everything … ”
The man is joking, surely.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Looking forward to the day when the “progressives” actually do contribute to the nation’s progress by disappearing
September 20th, 2009 at 9:06 am
The sooner the thick Wigram voters stop voting for Anderton, the better.
Comrade NeAnderton has been dead since the Berlin Wall fell two decades ago. He’s the archetypical example of the “dead man walking” syndrome.
September 20th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Maybe the Auditor General should look at Party Leader Payments and it particular does the Leader have a Party to Lead. We know that to register a Political Party at the Electoral Commission you need 500 members maybe this should be the test for Party Leader Payments by Parliamentary Services. If you have told your members go off and join the Labour Party then do you have a Party. Hell even Bill and Ben found their 500 members so this should be a easy threshold to meet.