Ali Ikram’s satirical piece on Maori TV

October 8th, 2009 at 10:37 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

has accused its rival TV3 of racism after it broadcast an item lampooning what its coverage of the Rugby World Cup would look like.

The TV3 Nightline parody showed an All Black diving for the winning try in the final, with the broadcast interrupted by a public service announcement, saying: “Pakeha. It’s time to talk. There’s a few things we need to sort out and you won’t get to see the rest of the game until we have.”

The reporter for Tuesday night’s item was , who is well-known for his satirical streak.

And this is key. Ali takes the piss out of everything and everyone. I’m reasonably supportive of the Maori TV bid, but really they need to lighten up.

But Maori TV spokeswoman Sonya Haggie said it was “basically racist” and it would be laying a complaint with the Broadcasting Standards Authority. The item also showed a match referee calling on the video referee, which turned out to be the Waitangi Tribunal, with Ikram warning “this could take a while”. There was also a “compulsory haka” for which the French did the can-can.

You can watch the clip for yourself here. I don’t think anyone is really going to think that the Waitangi Tribunal will be the video referee!

Ikram ridiculed Maori TV presenter , saying he presented virtually every show on the channel. …

TV3 received a number of complaints, including from its own staff, including Campbell Live reporter Mihingarangi Forbes who told the Herald it was disappointing and embarrassing.

“Given that it was supposed to be satire I didn’t find anything funny about it at all,” she said. “I think Ali [Ikram] would have hoped it was funny and clever but unfortunately for him and everyone else it was not.”

Ms Forbes said the jibes against Wilcox were hurtful.

“We have the utmost respect for Julian and it was unfair to pick him out like that.”

If the item was having a go at Wilcox, that would be regrettable. Wilcox is highly respected. But I didn’t see the clip as that. I actually thought it was paying Wilcox a subtle compliment by mentioning the large number of shows he presents.

is always a challenge. Almost all can offend someone. My preferred Southpark type offends almost everyone :-). There is a difference between for ’s sake, and using to attack or ridicule someone. I didn’t see anything in Ali’s item that suggested it was anything beyond his normal for ’s sake.

My advice to Maori TV. Do your own satirical response! Fight humour with humour.

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37 Responses to “Ali Ikram’s satirical piece on Maori TV”

  1. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    Hil-bloody-larious.

    Mihi – get over yourself.

    And Sonya, dear oh dear, Maori TV should really laugh it off if they’re serious about this bid.

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  2. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    thats hugely funny – (but bound to get the big bone necklace wearers upset)

    “Brought to you by our sponsors mastercard, emirates and post colonial guilt”

    why is ‘post colonial guilt’ the last sponsor mentioned? – and where is the ‘kicking and screaming taxpayer’?

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  3. emmess (1,428 comments) says:

    Two can play at the game

    Maori TV are just Islamophobic

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  4. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Whenever some one screams “raaaaacism” you know they have lost all of their credibility.

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  5. Manolo (13,735 comments) says:

    What has happenned to the fabled Maori sense of humour? Billy T. James would’ve been outraged by this sour lot.

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  6. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    Its true what manolo says. Maori should take it as humorous and move on, but I could see why it would be offensive. Its stereotyping all Maori people and has hints of racism. I think it was unessicary and shouldnt have been screened. But it has so Maori should just take the jokes and move on.

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  7. projectman (224 comments) says:

    Oh dear, those speaking out about the show are so earnest and so precious. Get a life guys – the world (i.e the non-brown NZ) for the large part isn’t against you. Not everything is racist; maybe when you can sense the intent of such things, and laugh at it, you might be able to move on from being stuck believing that we all still live in some sort of colonial mindset.

    If satire – taking the piss – is a problem, let’s ban it all. We can all think of things that offend our sense of values.

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  8. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    “TV3 received a number of complaints, including from its own staff, including Campbell Live reporter Mihingarangi Forbes who told the Herald it was disappointing and embarrassing.”

    I’d fire a staff member who took a public position against their employer.

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  9. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    Any other white New Zealanders ever been on a marae and had the locals josh you and all the other whities with stereotypes that, without a thick skin you could get all sensitive and deem rude or even racist?

    I have, plenty of times, including treaty negotiations. It’s standard stuff. But you don’t get the pakeha upping sticks and storming off in a state of high dudgeon.

    I repeat, Mihi, Maori TV, harden the fuck up. And I agree Manolo, I suspect Billy T would be horrified.

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  10. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Sounds like Maori TV are their own worst enemies. If they throw a hissy fit every time someone makes fun of them then they are doomed. If they are going to get upset then obviously Ali has hit a nerve. As for screaming racist, well that ones been done to death, really don’t think anyone gives a fat rats arse about the racist label anymore.

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  11. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    “you might be able to move on from being stuck believing that we all still live in some sort of colonial mindset.”

    Unfortunatly we do mate. While we still have the Queen as our head of state, while we still have ongoing treaty issues, while we still have huge gaps between Maori and Pakeha development, while we still have sepretist movements we will still be in a colonial mindset.

    I dont see how you could think that we dont.

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  12. starboard (2,536 comments) says:

    ..oh they are so precious…get a sense of humour and get a life MF…

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  13. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Remember starboard dark-skinned people can’t be racist, its only whiteys.

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  14. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    “Remember starboard dark-skinned people can’t be racist, its only whiteys.”

    Of course they can! And most Maori know it. Its just the select few that are racist that dont beleive it. Just like in the pakeha population.

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  15. Banana Llama (1,043 comments) says:

    Mihingarangi Forbes is clearly homophobic and anti gay marriage.

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  16. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    I would seriously doubt that Mr Ikram is Celtic or English, the usual prime suspects for being racist. His name suggests to me (sorry Ali if I am wrong) that he may be, in this uptight nation, a member of a minority and therefore exempt from a charge of racism.
    Agree Manalo where is Billy T.James when we need him, can we not find another with the wit to laugh at himself

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  17. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    How would that make him exempt from a charge of racism? What rubbish!

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  18. kiwicraig (52 comments) says:

    I saw the clip live on Nightline, and didn’t think it was racist. Unfortunately for Ikram, who aims for humourous/satirical (which most people should know by now), it wasn’t actually that funny either. Not because it was ‘targetting’ something that shouldn’t be laughed about – but just because it was kind of lame – not in terms of what he was satirising (which is a fair enough target – the concerns in the news about Maori TV getting the hosting rights), but more in the actual ‘jokes’ he came up with. Yawn.

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  19. ernesto (257 comments) says:

    Manolo: “Billy T. James would’ve been outraged by this sour lot.”

    Not just Billy T, anyone who has had a few beers with Pita Sharples and his guitar knows he is a master of this very type of ‘kaumatua’ comedy, usually to better effect though (Ikram was a little flat).

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  20. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Tau..baxter says How would that make him exempt from a charge of racism? What rubbish!

    Which just goes to show why you didn’t get it. It is satire – just like gravedodger’s comment.

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  21. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    Satire can be offensive, you dont seem to get that.

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  22. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    It can be tautokai, but as you yourself are granting Ali the benefit that it was indeed intended as satire, not a racist attack, then the mature thing to do is laugh it off, shrug it off or ignore it. Not everything can be as funny as is intended, to everyone who watches it. But complaining about it as if it were more serious than intended is unbecoming of the complainants, in my opinion.

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  23. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    put it in the next round of claims tautokai, 1./ Flags on the bridge, 2./ Seats on the Council and 3./ No poking fun at how we spend your tax money

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  24. RRM (9,915 comments) says:

    It’s a bit stiff and clunky.

    Billy T James would have done it, and he would have made it kickarse. And no-one would have said anything. It’s sad that this is an issue…

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  25. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    “It can be tautokai, but as you yourself are granting Ali the benefit that it was indeed intended as satire, not a racist attack, then the mature thing to do is laugh it off, shrug it off or ignore it.”

    If you read my previous comments thats what I’m saying. However, it would have been easier if he hadnt screened it in the first place as it wasent that funny, and surely he would know that it could be offensive?

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  26. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Satire can be offensive, you dont seem to get that.

    Boo fucking hoo. I find all sorts of things offensive, not the least of which are your opinions, but I can choose to read another blog if I want or skim over your comment. stop being a crybaby.

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  27. starboard (2,536 comments) says:

    However, it would have been easier if he hadnt screened it in the first place as it wasent that funny, and surely he would know that it could be offensive?

    ..and who the phuk are you to say what should be screened and what shouldnt …get over yourself , get over your preciousness , have a laugh…you’re a joke man

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  28. BlackMoss (61 comments) says:

    Definitely legitimate satire IMO. Of course, it can be interpreted as racism, but that depends on the outlook of the viewer and is not a reason to prevent individuals from having their say. I quite enjoyed it — I mean it really would be a good way to get people to listen up if you interrupted a World Cup rugby game!

    From one perspective, however, you might interpret this piece as saying that the hearing of land claims by the Waitangi tribunal has gone on too long, and that “post-colonial guilt” is being inflicted unfairly on us poor Pakeha, i.e. the ol’ “get over it” argument. Most people I’ve met have little knowledge about the history between European and Maori and seem to ignore the fact that some land confiscations are in fact recent history and that the negative effects of colonisation on indigenous groups are well documented. Fewer still have tried to understand what it would be like to have your culture and society overturned by immigrant settlers, and to live in a society where until recently you were discouraged from speaking your native tongue in schools and the workplace. Such people chose to ignore the fact that power in NZ is still, by and large, concentrated in a largely white elite. Attempts to stir up dissent about the legitimate grievances of Maori within NZ, are in my view, part of a wish to maintain the status quo and are based on a fear to give up any actual form of power to other groups within our society. Minorities should be wary of automatically siding against Maori in their struggle for recognition and power, as it is truly impossible to have genuine multiculturalism without first having biculturalism. Talk of multiculturalism is often meaningless sentiment to maintain the current order. (IMO)

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  29. projectman (224 comments) says:

    tautokai.baxter says: “while we still have sepretist movements we will still be in a colonial mindset.”

    Hey, just step back a minute and reflect on which group in our society has separatist movements. It ain’t whitey.

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  30. jabba (280 comments) says:

    oh dear oh dear oh dear .. once again Maori get upset over nothing .. it was funny but rather amateur in presentation.
    now, TB .. what do think about jokes relating to: Poms, Jocks, Micks, Aussies, Yanks, blondes, Gingas etc?
    And PLEASE don’t use the boring description racist redneck.

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  31. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Heh,heh, enjoyed that Ali, come on MTV I know you have taken over as the channel for a lot of docos etc but jeez, get a life.

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  32. tautokai.baxter (162 comments) says:

    “Hey, just step back a minute and reflect on which group in our society has separatist movements. It ain’t whitey.”

    I KNOW! Im not saying its all the white man. I respect all sides have good points.

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  33. Robert Black (423 comments) says:

    Great stuff Ali.

    The fact that Maoris complain about humour directed about themselves says it all.

    Hey Maori – Newsflash – People are sick and tired of your violent, lazy, corrupt and hand-out grabbing culture!

    Newsflash – there are other cultural minority groups in New Zealand that people prefer because quite simply they are better and do more for a harmonious New Zealand society.

    And about time the Haka was banned. I mean do we make the Maori players salute the Queen or have a cup of tea or a curry or do thai qi before kick-off?

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  34. Georgie (13 comments) says:

    robert not all maori are the same . . thats a racist stereotype just as it would be if i said i was sick of your (pa-ke-ha) white man’s tendency to sexually abuse your own children, marry your cousin,pollute our environment, steal things and basically wield corrupt power as you continue your 150+ rule over nz. . .
    newsflash to you: maori wont be the majority by the time youre a pensioner so isnt that something nice to look forward to? pa-ke-has as a MINORITY hehehe
    maori tv are going to win this bid in spite of racist snipes from mps and jealous tvnz and tv3 (omg why are we defending these money hungry vultures who show us mostly reality shows from the us anyway . . coro and outrageous fortune only good shows anyway!)

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  35. Alistair Miller (499 comments) says:

    Georgie, pakeha as a minority. That’s a brilliant laugh, since there are no fucking maori left. The only way pakeha will become a minority is if the rest of us realise life’s easier on the brown gravy train, lie down on the couch and stick our hands out. Hey that’s not a bad point. If everyone joins the movement, there will genuinely be *one* New Zealand, then we can stop all the colonial guilt and hand-wringing.

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  36. Georgie (13 comments) says:

    there you go again, if there are no “fucking maori left” as you so eloquently put it then there must be no fucking pa-ke-has left either: you’re all half castes yourselves . . . GET OVER IT . . . go visit Auckland some time, walk down Queen St and see how many guys that look like you walk past . . i would put money on it that you’re more likely to walk past someone called Ali or Ali’i than Alistair . . . KARMA, life is good, thank God Maoris, Asians and Pacific people have much higher birthrates than you pa-ke-has . . when your 1.2 children have locked you up in a rest home, we’lll be creaming it mate cso we’ll be the mainstream and you will just be another MINORITY . . . old pa-ke-has . . . maybe Winston will still have a nice racist party for your to to support on your Grey Power days out . . . hehehehe NOW THATS FUNNY , , ,

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