Mallard on Sir Bob

October 4th, 2009 at 7:16 pm by David Farrar

Trevor Mallard blogs a column by Sir where he predicts Phil Goff will win the 2011 election, and Winston will make it back.

I feel obliged to point out that (0ff memory) he predicted Labour would lose in 2002. and again predicted they would lose in 2005 to a National/ACT/NZ First Government led by Bill English.

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29 Responses to “Mallard on Sir Bob”

  1. jabba (280 comments) says:

    I saw that .. I wonder if Trev will link Redalert to any comments Bob makes that rubbish Labour.

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  2. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Bob will be wishing for it. He’s made millions from Labour’s policies, not the least in office rent to ever growing government depts in Wellington.

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  3. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    he also predicted Shane Cameron would win

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  4. n0exit (5 comments) says:

    Yea…. It’s a still a while away so picking a winner is like flipping a coin no one really knows… Although sir bob makes some good points. “Key’s mangling of the language is bound to become an increasing source of ridicule, which is always unhelpful.” This is the best point Sir Bob makes along with “by 2010 the recession will really be biting, compounded by National’s traditional tight fiscal policies. The government, whether fairly or not, will suffer the electorate’s backlash. As well, in hard times voters always look leftward for salvation.” and “few potential New Zealand First voters being likely newspaper readers…. it’s television which counts and television will love the ‘Resurrection of Winston’ story. And as we all know, when it comes to television Winston excels.” This is abosoulutly correct but it all depends on policy (I know that sounds stupid… but tgis is National we’re talking about… remember bulk funding??). A positive approach with a slightly looser fiscal policy and NZers could just be convinced again. Maybe the tax cuts will suddenly return in 2011??

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  5. mike12 (183 comments) says:

    Bob obviously downed a couple of bottles of Shiraz before sending that one off.

    “Goff’s profile will be much larger in the public’s mind in two years’ time, through familiarity, and he will seem a perfectly creditable leader in the eyes of voters”

    LoL – crack open another you drunk old fool..

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  6. ernesto (257 comments) says:

    Sir Bob didn’t get his knighthood for crystal ball gazing…

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/boxing/news/article.cfm?c_id=23&objectid=10600765

    “There’s a belief frequently expressed to me that Tua will win because sooner or later he’s bound to land a bomb on Cameron.

    Boxing is never that simple.

    First, Cameron is a very tough and determined individual who has shown often enough that he can take a punch.

    Second, to actually land a big punch, specifically Tua’s much vaunted left hook, is not an easy thing to do, more so when one’s opponent is alert to its threat and guards against it.

    Cameron does that naturally with left hooks and his more than two dozen bouts have revealed a vulnerability only to left jabs and straight rights from long armed, rangy opponents.”

    Yeah right.

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  7. Piggy (66 comments) says:

    I think you have the wrong link for that second one don’t you? That’s a richard prebble speech with the false prediction of ACT getting over 10% in the 2005 elections…

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  8. helmet (807 comments) says:

    Yeah but I notice that not even Bob’s dumb enough to predict a Mallard-led Labour win in 2011.

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  9. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    mallard grasping

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  10. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    Trevor Mallard, eternal optimist or deluded fuckwit, take your pick.

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  11. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    Or both

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  12. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    Bob Jones’s analysis is deeply superficial. Key’s mangling of the language will let Goff in??? I think Jones fired this off after a few too many drinks of wine.

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  13. dc (173 comments) says:

    At one point he predicted Winston would be Prime Minister!

    Sir Robert predicts Peters to be next PM; [1 Edition]
    Evening Post. Wellington, New Zealand: Aug 27, 1996. pg. 2

    Sir Robert Jones predicts a New Zealand First-Labour coalition with Winston Peters as Prime Minister.

    He said New Zealand First will win 33 seats in the country’s first MMP election, Labour 25 and National 44.

    Of the other parties the Alliance will win 16 seats, ACT six and United one.

    Sir Robert said there will be no significant policy changes with a NZ First-Labour coalition. “Winston will moderate those of his positions which are wrong and cosmeticise them,” he said.

    “Winston’s primary aims are to be PM and to humiliate Jim Bolger. Although never admitted, these are perfectly normal political objectives and not a cause for concern.”

    Sir Robert said in a recent address to Hutt Valley Chamber of Commerce the October 12 election would be a disaster for Labour from which it was unlikely to recover unless it could produce a charismatic leader.

    Mike Moore’s sacking was Labour’s biggest mistake. Labour could be saved only if Helen Clark resigned and Mr Moore took over, he said. This would lift Labour into second place, at NZ First’s expense.

    “This would result in a Labour-NZ First Government with Mike Moore as Prime Minister. It would be easily the most stable Government of any option as Moore and Peters get along very well and like one another.”

    Sir Robert said if National was able to form a Government it would be solely attributable to leader Jim Bolger’s standing out in televised leaders debates.

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  14. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    Mallard is a duckwit.

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  15. projectman (205 comments) says:

    Well, Bob Jones and Winston Peters are, in some ways, birds of a feather. Both like to be in the limelight, and can’t bear not being listened to. Bob Jones is as much a political has-been. Who gives a toss about his views. Maybe he’s just found a theme for another lightweight book on NZ politics.

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  16. tautokai.baxter (199 comments) says:

    Theres little chance Bob Jones is correct, but god i hope he is.

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  17. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    It’s about as likely as a Green government, Tokytokypie.

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  18. tautokai.baxter (199 comments) says:

    A Green-led Government will occur. Its just a matter of time my friend.

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  19. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    If it does, it would get Allende’d good and hard.

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  20. TCrwdb (246 comments) says:

    “tautokai.baxter (54) Vote: 0 2 Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    A Green-led Government will occur. Its just a matter of time my friend.”

    Nice idea for a Tui billboard

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  21. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    tvb @8.54 pm

    “deeply superficial”?

    How does that work?

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  22. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    Because Jones probably thinks he said something really profound – hence deeply, but we all know it was rubbish hence the symbolism of the expression “deeply superficial”. I am sure it has a term of speech but I am not a linguist.

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  23. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,798 comments) says:

    If it wasn’t, it certainly is now. Excellent.

    Bob Jones – deeply superficial. Much better than profoundly unintelligent.

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  24. Elijah Lineberry (306 comments) says:

    I hope Sir Robert is correct because it would serve everybody right!

    The National/ACT government has achieved nothing in almost a year, have abandoned election manifestos and principles and I think they deserve a temporary spell in Government before being ejected into the wilderness once again because I see losing in 2011 as the only way that sensible policies will prevail.

    http://www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com

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  25. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Theres little chance Bob Jones is correct, but god i hope he is.

    Ohhhhhh, poor bubby, are you missing the trough?

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  26. Dazzaman (1,123 comments) says:

    He also picked Shane Cameron to beat David Tua! Crikey, Bob couldn’t pick his nose!

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  27. Ryan Sproull (7,033 comments) says:

    Bob Jones’s analysis is deeply superficial.

    Sure, on the surface.

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  28. jabba (280 comments) says:

    Sir Bob is a very astute man .. I also think he likes a good laugh and I would say he is loving this .. have a glass for me Bob, I’m trying to cut back to give my liver a rest.

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  29. peterquixote (231 comments) says:

    Bob Jones is old,
    rich and past his time
    all of us New Zealanders will vote for New Zealand next election
    in next election, 2011 get read dudes, watch Winston
    at least he won;t pander to Maori.

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