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	<title>Comments on: More to suggest Labour thinks Field not guilty</title>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621798</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Dr Edwards is saying seems to indicate a reluctance at best, and a total disbelief at worst, to entertain the idea that TPF was corrupt. I can understand this, but I think it displays a worrying sense that he knows better than the Courts. I&#039;ve never seen evidence before that he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Dr Edwards is saying seems to indicate a reluctance at best, and a total disbelief at worst, to entertain the idea that TPF was corrupt. I can understand this, but I think it displays a worrying sense that he knows better than the Courts. I&#8217;ve never seen evidence before that he does.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621602</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to seperate contempt for his opinions from contempt for him as a person as, if the opinions are honestly held, contempt for the individual is the only conclusion.

Mindless drivel should be called as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to seperate contempt for his opinions from contempt for him as a person as, if the opinions are honestly held, contempt for the individual is the only conclusion.</p>
<p>Mindless drivel should be called as such.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeNZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621550</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very sensible David.</description>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621543</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a more general note, I do wish people could debate the issue, and lower the vitriol towards Dr Edwards. It really is embarrassing. Disagree with his conclusions or his actions but leave the name calling for primary school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more general note, I do wish people could debate the issue, and lower the vitriol towards Dr Edwards. It really is embarrassing. Disagree with his conclusions or his actions but leave the name calling for primary school.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621531</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be the same Brian Edwards who recently lauded John Key? Who backed the wrong candidate in Mt Albert? I don&#039;t think you&#039;d  find any Labour MPs&#039; voices raised in support of his belief that public libraries are a form of theft either.

Honestly David, your premise is absurd. The more straightforward view is that what he wrote was his personal opinion. I seriously doubt   it is a widely-held view amongst Labour MPs or party members. Field did, after all, &lt;i&gt;stand against&lt;/i&gt; the Labour candidate last year.

[DPF: Then why will no Labour MP come out and say we are appalled by what Field did, and we regret the defence of his actions put up by the former leadership.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be the same Brian Edwards who recently lauded John Key? Who backed the wrong candidate in Mt Albert? I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d  find any Labour MPs&#8217; voices raised in support of his belief that public libraries are a form of theft either.</p>
<p>Honestly David, your premise is absurd. The more straightforward view is that what he wrote was his personal opinion. I seriously doubt   it is a widely-held view amongst Labour MPs or party members. Field did, after all, <i>stand against</i> the Labour candidate last year.</p>
<p>[DPF: Then why will no Labour MP come out and say we are appalled by what Field did, and we regret the defence of his actions put up by the former leadership.]</p>
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		<title>By: tvb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621522</link>
		<dc:creator>tvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Field had very able and experienced Counsel, and the Judge in imposing the sentence he did clearly thought he was guilty otherwise he might have imposed Home Detention if he thought the verdict might be unsafe.  I suspect the Labour Party feels embarrassed by what has happened to Field and the effect it might have on their Pacifica constituency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Field had very able and experienced Counsel, and the Judge in imposing the sentence he did clearly thought he was guilty otherwise he might have imposed Home Detention if he thought the verdict might be unsafe.  I suspect the Labour Party feels embarrassed by what has happened to Field and the effect it might have on their Pacifica constituency.</p>
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		<title>By: starboard</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621466</link>
		<dc:creator>starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starboard, “Brian who? Steady on. If you are too young or uninformed to need an answer to the question, your comment is a waste of time.


oh noodle..get a sense of humour you silly little man..I can remember Brian from earlier days on Fair Go...now run along..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starboard, “Brian who? Steady on. If you are too young or uninformed to need an answer to the question, your comment is a waste of time.</p>
<p>oh noodle..get a sense of humour you silly little man..I can remember Brian from earlier days on Fair Go&#8230;now run along..</p>
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		<title>By: wreck1080</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621463</link>
		<dc:creator>wreck1080</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you expect from labour?

Its their modus operandi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect from labour?</p>
<p>Its their modus operandi.</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621446</link>
		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liarbore are screwed on this and you have to ask: why is Field able to command such loyalty?

Does he have George Hawkins&#039; files?

Liarbore are not stupid and they&#039;re informed and the obviously smart thing for Liarbore to have already done long ago would be to cut and run.

That course has been screamingly obvious for a long long time. So why haven&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liarbore are screwed on this and you have to ask: why is Field able to command such loyalty?</p>
<p>Does he have George Hawkins&#8217; files?</p>
<p>Liarbore are not stupid and they&#8217;re informed and the obviously smart thing for Liarbore to have already done long ago would be to cut and run.</p>
<p>That course has been screamingly obvious for a long long time. So why haven&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621445</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  Swiftman the infidel (43) Vote: Add rating 14  Subtract rating 1   Says:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Labour MPs and Labour voters are low class scum.

I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again. National MPs and National voters are upper class scum

(I haven&#039;t really but isn&#039;t symmetry beautiful?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  Swiftman the infidel (43) Vote: Add rating 14  Subtract rating 1   Says:<br />
October 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pm</p>
<p>I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Labour MPs and Labour voters are low class scum.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again. National MPs and National voters are upper class scum</p>
<p>(I haven&#8217;t really but isn&#8217;t symmetry beautiful?)</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Prick</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621442</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Prick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this thread serves to confirm that Labour and its cheerleaders are made up of a corrupt bunch of self-serving and protecting liars.  Retrospective validating legislation over $800k probably set the benchmark for the level of corruption that is acceptable to the left, some even described it as acceptable and courageous corruption to stop a National government being formed at the time.  

To that fat pinko Labour apologist, all I say is that you are fucking lucky that Labour is not being banned as a political party and every member being assigned a number and sent off to the gulags.  I wouldn’t like that at all, it would be far to comfortable.  

I&#039;d like to think that National would never have to validate any level of theft or corruption.  I hope Key never utters the words National Minister X &quot; is only guilty of being helpful ... move on, peasant&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this thread serves to confirm that Labour and its cheerleaders are made up of a corrupt bunch of self-serving and protecting liars.  Retrospective validating legislation over $800k probably set the benchmark for the level of corruption that is acceptable to the left, some even described it as acceptable and courageous corruption to stop a National government being formed at the time.  </p>
<p>To that fat pinko Labour apologist, all I say is that you are fucking lucky that Labour is not being banned as a political party and every member being assigned a number and sent off to the gulags.  I wouldn’t like that at all, it would be far to comfortable.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that National would never have to validate any level of theft or corruption.  I hope Key never utters the words National Minister X &#8221; is only guilty of being helpful &#8230; move on, peasant&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621440</link>
		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;RRM (1434) Vote:  0   18   Says: 
October 19th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Whaleoil et al of the same ilk, you need to keep in the forefront off your incredibly tiny minds that name-calling from potty-mouthed little turds like yourself will never hurt us, though sticks and stones may break our bones. “He was and still is a close confidante of Helen Clark, he wrote her hagiography, he often flies kites for Labour on contentious issues and is a life long member of the liberal elite Labour party supporting media wonks.” He’s a left-wing attempt at a copy of this institution then? I’m speechless. Sometimes it really astonishes me that Farrar keeps holding you up as some sort of shining example of the right-wing bloggies..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I had to repeat the whole thing RRM because you&#039;re so amusing.

&quot;though sticks and stones may break our bones&quot;

You do realise Whaleoil is a shy, gentle fellow who likes tiddlywinks and mahjong?

As for the rest of it, why did you not once never ever so there, attempt in even a tiny weeny way to address even a weally weally widdle point let alone the substantive ones that he made in his post?

Eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>RRM (1434) Vote:  0   18   Says:<br />
October 19th, 2009 at 5:25 pm<br />
Whaleoil et al of the same ilk, you need to keep in the forefront off your incredibly tiny minds that name-calling from potty-mouthed little turds like yourself will never hurt us, though sticks and stones may break our bones. “He was and still is a close confidante of Helen Clark, he wrote her hagiography, he often flies kites for Labour on contentious issues and is a life long member of the liberal elite Labour party supporting media wonks.” He’s a left-wing attempt at a copy of this institution then? I’m speechless. Sometimes it really astonishes me that Farrar keeps holding you up as some sort of shining example of the right-wing bloggies..</p></blockquote>
<p>I had to repeat the whole thing RRM because you&#8217;re so amusing.</p>
<p>&#8220;though sticks and stones may break our bones&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realise Whaleoil is a shy, gentle fellow who likes tiddlywinks and mahjong?</p>
<p>As for the rest of it, why did you not once never ever so there, attempt in even a tiny weeny way to address even a weally weally widdle point let alone the substantive ones that he made in his post?</p>
<p>Eh?</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621439</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go jump in the lake toad and take big blouse with ya.</description>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621438</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad

When was the last time you debated any issue here?

You used to a year or so ago, you were an interesting chap to have a chat with, you would sometimes even admit that you had changed your mind on the odd subject.

So it is a real pity that in recent months you have done nothing apart from act as the Green party spin doctor, even when cornered you rush around trying to defend the indefensible.

What does that tell us about the Greens?, are you guys really in that bad a mess that you are scared it will leak out?
There really has been a change in your writting style, to me it seems that the pressure and internal warfare must be getting to you a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toad</p>
<p>When was the last time you debated any issue here?</p>
<p>You used to a year or so ago, you were an interesting chap to have a chat with, you would sometimes even admit that you had changed your mind on the odd subject.</p>
<p>So it is a real pity that in recent months you have done nothing apart from act as the Green party spin doctor, even when cornered you rush around trying to defend the indefensible.</p>
<p>What does that tell us about the Greens?, are you guys really in that bad a mess that you are scared it will leak out?<br />
There really has been a change in your writting style, to me it seems that the pressure and internal warfare must be getting to you a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@d4j 9:05 pm

Grow up, you moronic imbecile.  If you want to post on any blog, at least debate an issue.  Abuse doesn&#039;t impress anyone, although I am tempted to throw some phil u&#039;s way sometimes.  Oh, and yours too d4j.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@d4j 9:05 pm</p>
<p>Grow up, you moronic imbecile.  If you want to post on any blog, at least debate an issue.  Abuse doesn&#8217;t impress anyone, although I am tempted to throw some phil u&#8217;s way sometimes.  Oh, and yours too d4j.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray M</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621432</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or the fault of those despicable little Asians that his daughter seems to like much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the fault of those despicable little Asians that his daughter seems to like much.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621431</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jabba ; I think Doctor Edwards gave phool a liarbour lickspittle corruption cookie that blew his head apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jabba ; I think Doctor Edwards gave phool a liarbour lickspittle corruption cookie that blew his head apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray M</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_to_suggest_labour_thinks_field_not_guilty.html#comment-621430</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Field was a labour politician he can&#039;t be guilty of anything.  He&#039;s also a darky so it was probably the white man&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Field was a labour politician he can&#8217;t be guilty of anything.  He&#8217;s also a darky so it was probably the white man&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: jabba</title>
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		<dc:creator>jabba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is philu  eh, arrested eh???
(jabbamissinghisbuddy.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is philu  eh, arrested eh???<br />
(jabbamissinghisbuddy.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Edwards the full quid, every time I&#039;ve seen him on the idiot box he sounds like he has a turnip stuck up his arse. I bet him and Trotts are related. The left will never admit any wrong doing, it&#039;s a sign of weakness and it&#039;s saying we made a mistake, socialists don&#039;t make mistakes, only the weak and the right say sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Edwards the full quid, every time I&#8217;ve seen him on the idiot box he sounds like he has a turnip stuck up his arse. I bet him and Trotts are related. The left will never admit any wrong doing, it&#8217;s a sign of weakness and it&#8217;s saying we made a mistake, socialists don&#8217;t make mistakes, only the weak and the right say sorry.</p>
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