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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622378</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..Going on about medication for grannies and grandads, law abiding..&quot;

precisely the point..dear steve..

thanks to joyce/national...

they are no longer &#039;law abiding&#039;..

they are now &#039;b&#039;-heads..

breaking the law..with every breath/trank they take..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..Going on about medication for grannies and grandads, law abiding..&#8221;</p>
<p>precisely the point..dear steve..</p>
<p>thanks to joyce/national&#8230;</p>
<p>they are no longer &#8216;law abiding&#8217;..</p>
<p>they are now &#8216;b&#8217;-heads..</p>
<p>breaking the law..with every breath/trank they take..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fucking drug addict really is a phool, raving all phucking day.
Going on about medication for grannies and grandads, law abiding.
The stupid prick smokes dak all day and he has the gall to give an opinion?
Nod off yourself Phool. 
FFS taxpayers pay for everything you do, even breathing, leech</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fucking drug addict really is a phool, raving all phucking day.<br />
Going on about medication for grannies and grandads, law abiding.<br />
The stupid prick smokes dak all day and he has the gall to give an opinion?<br />
Nod off yourself Phool.<br />
FFS taxpayers pay for everything you do, even breathing, leech</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622369</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shall we call the benzo&#039;s...&#039;b&#039;..?

it&#039;d be easier..

y&#039;know..!..the &#039;b&#039;-scourge..?

the &#039;b&#039;-epidemic..?

maybe john key could update his &#039;p&#039;-scare-story/urban-myth..?

and tell us about &#039;b&#039;-crazed-granny-addicts...

just turning up on law-abiding-punters&#039; doorsteps..

(what would they say..?:..&#039;got any &#039;b&#039;&#039;s..?&#039;..

would they threaten to &#039;nod-off&#039;..?)

whoar..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shall we call the benzo&#8217;s&#8230;&#8217;b&#8217;..?</p>
<p>it&#8217;d be easier..</p>
<p>y&#8217;know..!..the &#8216;b&#8217;-scourge..?</p>
<p>the &#8216;b&#8217;-epidemic..?</p>
<p>maybe john key could update his &#8216;p&#8217;-scare-story/urban-myth..?</p>
<p>and tell us about &#8216;b&#8217;-crazed-granny-addicts&#8230;</p>
<p>just turning up on law-abiding-punters&#8217; doorsteps..</p>
<p>(what would they say..?:..&#8217;got any &#8216;b&#8221;s..?&#8217;..</p>
<p>would they threaten to &#8216;nod-off&#8217;..?)</p>
<p>whoar..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622365</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you saying they are all just nanny-statist ..?

this attack on junkie-grannies could also stir greypower enough..

to lever themselves out of their laz-y-boys..

and if that happens..?

whoar..!..watch out key/nattys..!

incoming..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you saying they are all just nanny-statist ..?</p>
<p>this attack on junkie-grannies could also stir greypower enough..</p>
<p>to lever themselves out of their laz-y-boys..</p>
<p>and if that happens..?</p>
<p>whoar..!..watch out key/nattys..!</p>
<p>incoming..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cresswell</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622245</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cresswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil: &quot;&lt;i&gt;...how is the libertarian-wing of the nattys handling this little shower...&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

There&#039;s a libertarian wing of the Nats?  Surely you jest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phil: &#8220;<i>&#8230;how is the libertarian-wing of the nattys handling this little shower&#8230;</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a libertarian wing of the Nats?  Surely you jest!</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622163</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..Brad H (33) Vote: Add rating 6  Subtract rating 0   Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:21 am

If moving to the centre involves agreeing to ban Benzodiazepine then it is not the centre I want.

As Act put it:

“If Mr Joyce is seriously telling New Zealand that sedatives are significant contributors to our road toll he had better start examining anti-histamines, phenothiazines, tri-cyclic anti-depressants, and a host of other legally prescribed drugs that cause sedation. By eliminating half the population from driving he probably will make a hefty dent in the road toll.”

so..brad..

why did (your) act just vote to pass this law..?

(remind us again..!..)

(they don&#039;t speak with forked-tongue..do they..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..Brad H (33) Vote: Add rating 6  Subtract rating 0   Says:<br />
October 21st, 2009 at 9:21 am</p>
<p>If moving to the centre involves agreeing to ban Benzodiazepine then it is not the centre I want.</p>
<p>As Act put it:</p>
<p>“If Mr Joyce is seriously telling New Zealand that sedatives are significant contributors to our road toll he had better start examining anti-histamines, phenothiazines, tri-cyclic anti-depressants, and a host of other legally prescribed drugs that cause sedation. By eliminating half the population from driving he probably will make a hefty dent in the road toll.”</p>
<p>so..brad..</p>
<p>why did (your) act just vote to pass this law..?</p>
<p>(remind us again..!..)</p>
<p>(they don&#8217;t speak with forked-tongue..do they..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622155</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yep..!..nat/act have both voted for the cruising/nanny-junkie bill..

the only party to voe against it ..

was the greens..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yep..!..nat/act have both voted for the cruising/nanny-junkie bill..</p>
<p>the only party to voe against it ..</p>
<p>was the greens..</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622153</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they could/should raid/blockade bowling clubs...

(&quot;did you drive here..?..blow in this bag..!&#039;..)

they&#039;d get a lot there..

(spot raids on op-shop staff would be another &#039;easy-catch&#039;..)

&#039;low-hanging-fruit there..eh..?..be seen to be doing something..that&#039;s the main thing..)

i can&#039;t understand how we&#039;ve gone/survived so long..

allowing the scourge of these drugged-out junkie-grannies..

just going about anywhere as they please..

(and won&#039;t somebody think of the children..?..)

(&#039;holy new/fresh-moral-panic..!..batman..!&#039;..)

..the pill-gobbling grannies..

too sedated for their own good..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they could/should raid/blockade bowling clubs&#8230;</p>
<p>(&#8220;did you drive here..?..blow in this bag..!&#8217;..)</p>
<p>they&#8217;d get a lot there..</p>
<p>(spot raids on op-shop staff would be another &#8216;easy-catch&#8217;..)</p>
<p>&#8216;low-hanging-fruit there..eh..?..be seen to be doing something..that&#8217;s the main thing..)</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t understand how we&#8217;ve gone/survived so long..</p>
<p>allowing the scourge of these drugged-out junkie-grannies..</p>
<p>just going about anywhere as they please..</p>
<p>(and won&#8217;t somebody think of the children..?..)</p>
<p>(&#8216;holy new/fresh-moral-panic..!..batman..!&#8217;..)</p>
<p>..the pill-gobbling grannies..</p>
<p>too sedated for their own good..eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622150</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;how the hell do you test someone for sedatives&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They have a test for this, they are going to put the grannies in a rocking chair in front of telly and if they nod off within two hours they will have been deemed to be sedated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how the hell do you test someone for sedatives</p></blockquote>
<p>They have a test for this, they are going to put the grannies in a rocking chair in front of telly and if they nod off within two hours they will have been deemed to be sedated.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeNZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622141</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rolla_fxgt &amp; NickB

Thanks for this, it seems ludicrous to me.
Law should be clear and thought out.
We pay them to think through both the intended and unintended consequences.
At least it is in first stages thank god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rolla_fxgt &amp; NickB</p>
<p>Thanks for this, it seems ludicrous to me.<br />
Law should be clear and thought out.<br />
We pay them to think through both the intended and unintended consequences.<br />
At least it is in first stages thank god.</p>
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		<title>By: nickb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622131</link>
		<dc:creator>nickb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thumbs up for you philu, seeing you as an enemy of the Nat&#039;s nannyism only reinforces my concerns about them.

Now if we could only temper your party&#039;s authoritarianism on the economic front :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thumbs up for you philu, seeing you as an enemy of the Nat&#8217;s nannyism only reinforces my concerns about them.</p>
<p>Now if we could only temper your party&#8217;s authoritarianism on the economic front <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622128</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..Secondly, perhaps if someone in the know can fill me in on this, how the hell do you test someone for sedatives? What a fucking joke..&quot;

expect to see grannies on the side of the road..being made to &#039;walk a straight line&#039;..(and breath into &#039;drug-bags&#039;..)

it&#039;s not going to be easy for  the  &#039;dears&#039;..eh..?

and i reckon they&#039;ll get a bit pissed off..

and then it&#039;ll be &#039;bye-bye that horrible mr key&quot;&#039;..eh..?

(golden rules of political-survival..(number four:

never..ever..piss the grannies off..!.)

&#039;tis the equivalent of political suicide..

(b.t.w..speaking of &#039;splits in parties&#039;..(as dpf does)..

.how is the libertarian-wing of the nattys handling this little shower..?

(and will act vote to support it..?

you bet yr rightwing boots they will..!)

eh..?

(holy ongoing ideological-blasphemies/betrayals..! ..!..batman..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..Secondly, perhaps if someone in the know can fill me in on this, how the hell do you test someone for sedatives? What a fucking joke..&#8221;</p>
<p>expect to see grannies on the side of the road..being made to &#8216;walk a straight line&#8217;..(and breath into &#8216;drug-bags&#8217;..)</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not going to be easy for  the  &#8216;dears&#8217;..eh..?</p>
<p>and i reckon they&#8217;ll get a bit pissed off..</p>
<p>and then it&#8217;ll be &#8216;bye-bye that horrible mr key&#8221;&#8216;..eh..?</p>
<p>(golden rules of political-survival..(number four:</p>
<p>never..ever..piss the grannies off..!.)</p>
<p>&#8217;tis the equivalent of political suicide..</p>
<p>(b.t.w..speaking of &#8216;splits in parties&#8217;..(as dpf does)..</p>
<p>.how is the libertarian-wing of the nattys handling this little shower..?</p>
<p>(and will act vote to support it..?</p>
<p>you bet yr rightwing boots they will..!)</p>
<p>eh..?</p>
<p>(holy ongoing ideological-blasphemies/betrayals..! ..!..batman..!..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622114</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and..f.f.s..!..please..!

nobody tell joyce the highs to be had from yoga..eh..?

quick as a flash/knee-jerk..

he&#039;ll ban meditation-mats..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and..f.f.s..!..please..!</p>
<p>nobody tell joyce the highs to be had from yoga..eh..?</p>
<p>quick as a flash/knee-jerk..</p>
<p>he&#8217;ll ban meditation-mats..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proposed bill to stop citizens from &quot;cruising&quot; (= moving about of their free will on public roads) merely because the car is a Skyline or Integra or whatever and it looks a bit similar to some other cars that - anecdotally - are sometimes seen breaking the law and causing public disturbance.

But no no, Nanny/Police state is what LABOUR and the GREENS want to do to us, remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proposed bill to stop citizens from &#8220;cruising&#8221; (= moving about of their free will on public roads) merely because the car is a Skyline or Integra or whatever and it looks a bit similar to some other cars that &#8211; anecdotally &#8211; are sometimes seen breaking the law and causing public disturbance.</p>
<p>But no no, Nanny/Police state is what LABOUR and the GREENS want to do to us, remember?</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622110</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s also known as &#039;being keyed&#039;..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s also known as &#8216;being keyed&#8217;..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622103</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is different. It is now the Natny state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is different. It is now the Natny state.</p>
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		<title>By: nickb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622101</link>
		<dc:creator>nickb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10604475


What a fuckup, what a shambles, the Nats really are turning into worse nanny statists than the last lot. Their motto should be along the lines of &quot;Socialism: We&#039;ll do it Better&quot;.

Now I am all for locking the crims up and throwing away the key, but FFS come on:
&quot;The Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act will allow local authorities to make anti-cruising orders, which prevent &quot;circling designated streets within defined periods of time&quot;.&quot;

And then:
&quot;The act also featured the last-minute inclusion of a ban on driving while affected by benzodiazepine, a prescription sedative and anti-anxiety medication that is often used as a sleeping pill.&quot;

First of all, the anti cruising clause seems to me like the worst kind of bad drafting, there are already laws against reckless driving, loud exhausts etc, why the fuck do we need more? Oh thats right, so John Key can look like a &quot;strong leader&quot;.

Secondly, perhaps if someone in the know can fill me in on this, how the hell do you test someone for sedatives? What a fucking joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10604475" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10604475</a></p>
<p>What a fuckup, what a shambles, the Nats really are turning into worse nanny statists than the last lot. Their motto should be along the lines of &#8220;Socialism: We&#8217;ll do it Better&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now I am all for locking the crims up and throwing away the key, but FFS come on:<br />
&#8220;The Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act will allow local authorities to make anti-cruising orders, which prevent &#8220;circling designated streets within defined periods of time&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then:<br />
&#8220;The act also featured the last-minute inclusion of a ban on driving while affected by benzodiazepine, a prescription sedative and anti-anxiety medication that is often used as a sleeping pill.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, the anti cruising clause seems to me like the worst kind of bad drafting, there are already laws against reckless driving, loud exhausts etc, why the fuck do we need more? Oh thats right, so John Key can look like a &#8220;strong leader&#8221;.</p>
<p>Secondly, perhaps if someone in the know can fill me in on this, how the hell do you test someone for sedatives? What a fucking joke.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622098</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..It seems like more a Green Party law than a National one..&quot;

um..!,..i can&#039;t see the greens voting against &#039;cruising&#039;..of any type..

this type of pettifogging-authoritarianism..

harkens back more to muldoon..

and how about banning all those grannies..eh..?

not only won&#039;t our anti-freedom govts allow our elderly to sparkle up their final years with a bit of opium..or cocaine..or even pot..

(move to portugal i say..!..or..or...)

now..joyce..after having a rant laid on him by anti-drug/fun-zealots..

has turned all the oldies..tranked up on &#039;legal-drugs/highs&#039;..as they are.

into law-breaking junkies..now forbidden to drive..

the day after they have knecked their sleeping pills..

good grief..!

what&#039;s next..?

um..!..aren&#039;t you righties who moaned long and hard about nanny-state labour..

squirming somewhat..?..in embarrassment..?

if not..why not..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..It seems like more a Green Party law than a National one..&#8221;</p>
<p>um..!,..i can&#8217;t see the greens voting against &#8216;cruising&#8217;..of any type..</p>
<p>this type of pettifogging-authoritarianism..</p>
<p>harkens back more to muldoon..</p>
<p>and how about banning all those grannies..eh..?</p>
<p>not only won&#8217;t our anti-freedom govts allow our elderly to sparkle up their final years with a bit of opium..or cocaine..or even pot..</p>
<p>(move to portugal i say..!..or..or&#8230;)</p>
<p>now..joyce..after having a rant laid on him by anti-drug/fun-zealots..</p>
<p>has turned all the oldies..tranked up on &#8216;legal-drugs/highs&#8217;..as they are.</p>
<p>into law-breaking junkies..now forbidden to drive..</p>
<p>the day after they have knecked their sleeping pills..</p>
<p>good grief..!</p>
<p>what&#8217;s next..?</p>
<p>um..!..aren&#8217;t you righties who moaned long and hard about nanny-state labour..</p>
<p>squirming somewhat..?..in embarrassment..?</p>
<p>if not..why not..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/moving_to_the_centre.html#comment-622094</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the centre is getting oh so crowded..

it is nearly bursting at the seams..

the greens have just managed to sqeeze themselves in..

what will the do when winnie turns up..?

brandishing fistfulls of &#039;clean-up-parliament&#039; policies..?

and other populist gems..

it&#039;ll be positively third-world-crowding conditions in there..

in fact..if winnie gets populist enough..

(and i&#039;m picking he will..eh..?..)

he could..irony of ironies..

end up the &#039;leftist&#039; of them all..

&#039;it&#039;s an upside down world..alice..&#039;

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the centre is getting oh so crowded..</p>
<p>it is nearly bursting at the seams..</p>
<p>the greens have just managed to sqeeze themselves in..</p>
<p>what will the do when winnie turns up..?</p>
<p>brandishing fistfulls of &#8216;clean-up-parliament&#8217; policies..?</p>
<p>and other populist gems..</p>
<p>it&#8217;ll be positively third-world-crowding conditions in there..</p>
<p>in fact..if winnie gets populist enough..</p>
<p>(and i&#8217;m picking he will..eh..?..)</p>
<p>he could..irony of ironies..</p>
<p>end up the &#8216;leftist&#8217; of them all..</p>
<p>&#8216;it&#8217;s an upside down world..alice..&#8217;</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: rolla_fxgt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The support of National for the anti cruising part of the Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act, has lost them my vote. Its the single stupidest piece of legislation I have ever seen passed.

Effectively it makes it illegal for a section of society to drive down the roads. Its also open to huge abuse by the police, as it is up to them to decide what cruising is, as the definition in the act is so loose. It will also harm charities, as the car community will no longer do cruises for charity (most organised cruises have a $5 entry fee, which goes to a charity).

I honestly think I will have to take the bus in the weekends if the DCC implements a bylaw to prevent cruising, its just not worth the risk. 

Also I&#039;ll be making lots of complaints to the police asking them to fine themselves as their cars have badges on them that bring attention to the size or the power of their cars. Also the buses that rev their engines and go up and down main streets (its cruising), guess National forgot about the law of unintended consequences.

It seems like more a Green Party law than a National one. Come on National give it the boot, or I&#039;ll give you the boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The support of National for the anti cruising part of the Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act, has lost them my vote. Its the single stupidest piece of legislation I have ever seen passed.</p>
<p>Effectively it makes it illegal for a section of society to drive down the roads. Its also open to huge abuse by the police, as it is up to them to decide what cruising is, as the definition in the act is so loose. It will also harm charities, as the car community will no longer do cruises for charity (most organised cruises have a $5 entry fee, which goes to a charity).</p>
<p>I honestly think I will have to take the bus in the weekends if the DCC implements a bylaw to prevent cruising, its just not worth the risk. </p>
<p>Also I&#8217;ll be making lots of complaints to the police asking them to fine themselves as their cars have badges on them that bring attention to the size or the power of their cars. Also the buses that rev their engines and go up and down main streets (its cruising), guess National forgot about the law of unintended consequences.</p>
<p>It seems like more a Green Party law than a National one. Come on National give it the boot, or I&#8217;ll give you the boot.</p>
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