Comments on: September 2009 Polls

By: jackp

jackp — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:49:30 +0000

They aren’t voting for the ETS which is why National is in bed with the maori party.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:45:19 +0000

Act wants the result of the referendum to mean something. Didn’t know they voted for the ETS – thought they wanted a carbon tax instead.

By: jackp

jackp — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:38:11 +0000

Scott, I think you are right on. I don’t think to highly of National. They are trying to appease the labour voters. In fairness to National they inherited a monster from Labour but Key has had plenty of opportunity to make better decisions for Kiwis. I was talking to an elderly couple today and they are furious they can’t take walks at night. Nothing happening in the criminal department. Killers are still getting low sentencing. Key ignoring the anti smacking law referendum and now opposing the flat tax. The ETS is a scam to appease Maori and raise cost of living which is pretty high where as before Nick Smith thought the carbon trading scheme was crap. Now he doesn’t. They are seriously looking at taxing property 1 percent to all of us property owners. National will let us down more and more. Oh, they are raising the benefits to what inflation is. Gosh, that is really handling the underclass. I have no choice, I have never been for Labour so I have to go with Act.

By: Ross Miller

Ross Miller — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:47:19 +0000

re the update on the Morgan Poll which has National at 57% and all other parties going south at a rate of knots..

Looks like the manufactured outrage on the anti-smacking referendum has resonated not.

Is it just possible that National is in tune with voter land and all the others are ‘off-key’.

By: David Farrar

David Farrar — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:30:57 +0000

My reading is a blip. In Jan 2007 there was just one poll, so instead of an average as in most months, you only have a single poll.

By: Master Hogwash

Master Hogwash — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:52:32 +0000

I’ve never really paid attention to these posts before, but now that I’m looking,

What happend in early 2007? Was that the Brash resignation? Bit of a blip.

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:08:18 +0000

Have to agree with much of the above. National still resembles Labour far too much for my liking. That they haven’t moved to repeal the anti-smacking legislation is I think a big factor in the drop in the polls.

I suspect National’s view is based on hardheaded pragmatism. Where else can we go? Back to Labour? I know that Phil Goff has conceded that Labour introduced too much of the nanny state but no one thinks for a moment that his party has really repented of their political correctness/radical feminism/hard left stance. The Greens are just as bad if not worse. The Maori party supported the anti-smacking legislation. Some people say — vote Act. But they have so little electoral support generally it is hard to see too many people going in that direction.

I think we just have to keep working on National and keeping this issue to the forefront and sooner or later John Key and co will “get it”. We don’t want the nanny state interfering in the lives of good parents and telling them how to raise their children.

How about less government, lower taxes and allowing people to take responsibility for their own lives? This government doesn’t appear to have made any moves in that direction. They appear to be about telling people what to do, introducing new taxes and continuing to grow government spending. Or am I being unfair?

By: bchapman

bchapman — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:06:19 +0000

This is good vindication for the moderate National policy stances they have taken so far. Their main policy decisions so far have been to rescind the tax cuts and make some mild spending cut backs to spending. Welfare, education and health care have all been maintained. Obviously the electorate agrees with this approach. Keep it up.

Anthony- what ACT policy stances are you thinking about? They voted for the ETS legislation and were split over gang patches.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:40:54 +0000

Good to see Act up for taking a more principled stand on a few issues, although they never seem to do very well in the Roy Morgan poll.

By: dimmocrazy

dimmocrazy — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:26:43 +0000

@jackp: that’s pretty damning alright, as are many of the documented statements and promises that are now disappearing in rapid succession.

By: jackp

jackp — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:47:29 +0000

Dimmocrazy, I am with you. Read this…. http://www.nick4nelson.co.nz/nelson-marlborough-farming-december-column.html
Nick Smith wrote that in 2005. He is describing himself now. Pathetic. He says he works hard and deserves his perks. He works hard at contradicting himself which I strongly believe he shouldn’t get a dime.

By: KiwiGreg

KiwiGreg — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:25:31 +0000

Labour up Green down; Nats down, Act up – its just people moving between parties in the same part of the spectrum isnt it?

By: dimmocrazy

dimmocrazy — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:17:38 +0000

Closing the gap is not too surprising, as the Nats policies start to resemble those of Labour ever more closely, particularly with some upcoming tax increases and a bit of nanny-statism thrown in as well, no perceptible cuts in ridiculous welfare spending, and no changes in the suffocating bureaucracy. It’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference.