There is a big difference between a private house, say, where most people would agree whatever you say or do is your own business, and a PUBLIC place. I’d like to think that we, the general public, still try to uphold some standards (yeah, yeah, I can see all the eyes rolling), and using the “F” word or calling someone a “c**t” IN PUBLIC isn’t the sort of standard that I would have hoped most people want to maintain.

Put into another context, how would you feel if the teacher at your child’s primary school was to use these words in front of the class? Or you’re standing in line at the cinema with your children, and there’s a group of teenagers using the “f” word and talking about other “mother-f*****s” and “c**ts”? If you don’t feel even slightly uncomfortable in that situation, there’s something wrong with you.

There is no reason why there shouldn’t be a standard of decent conversation because in general the F word adds nothing to the conversation and really tells the listener that the person using the f word doesn’t remember the other 60000 words available in the English language.

Are you all that dumb?

Should anyone who opens up their ( private space DPF! ) to the public, which would include young children under 12, be allowed to display or play music videos or songs or posters etc etc that are objectionable to that age groups parents?
It is a public space as it has been intended for the public to enter it as part of it’s existence, it is NOT a private space. duh!

Personally I think not, but that is based on a set of values that we obviously don’t share, so we can’t talk about common sense because we don’t share the same values.
Fuck and all the other F,B,C words are not acceptable in my view around young children.

Et tu?

Let’s be clear; I was NEVER young.
Luckily, though, my music tastes have changed as I’ve travelled through the millennia. Something with excessive swearing, or a strong drum emphasis, has always been associated with ‘calling up the demons’, and hence not regarded as real music.

Once upon a time, you we’re young too. And your parents hated your music as well.

That was filthy. You need to be punished! I just rang TVNZ and they said that they’re not responsible for profane links in blogs. I e-mailed my MP but he is a lefty who is fully occupied Twittering from a disaster area. I called Consumer Affairs and they said they’re responsible for accurate labeling on blogs but not the contents or accuracy of comments. I stopped a police officer parked beside the road and he told me not to waste his time, and that he had to ticket another 15 speeders before he was allowed to go home. I rang the Ministry of Women’s Affairs and they said they’d prosecute you to the full extent of the law, but only if your language was sexist and it isn’t. Finally, I got hold of Geoffrey Palmer who admitted that he’s the sort of joyless wowser who’d pass a law to ban rude links, but that he was too busy at the moment trying to stop young people enjoying a beer or glass of wine.

There is obviously a gap in legislation, and authorities seem confused about who is responsible. I don’t have seven children.

Life worked. She found something offensive (I agree in that context), complained to the dude who owned the store, who took said complaint seriously and then fixed the issue. Get over yourself lady.

..she reminds me of the person who complains that if they stand on the top of their roof they can see the nudist beach.

I’m getting the ladder out now..

So, a private store is definitely the property of the owner according to your statement above, huh? Can you also say the same thing about Telecom’s private telecommunication network? I don’t think so, since Telecom is not private to you DPF, Telecom belongs to the state and the state have every right to legislate anything against Telecom if they don’t like the way how they run their business.

DPF said…
But don’t go demanding some Government agency do something.

I recalled you demanding that the government (Labour) should do something about Telecom’s monopoly about a couple of years ago.

[DPF: 99.999% of the population would consider there is a difference between a vertically integrated monopoly that controls NZ's telecommunications infrastructure and a private shop that is one of thousands of competing businesses. If you don't that is your problem]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xKUU5sWS4

Its the ringtone on my phone (and the reason why its permanantly on silent at work)

If, say, the lyrics of the song suggested that Mohammad enjoyed lurid pastimes with children you can be sure that the offence would be taken very, very seriously.

It’s a post-post-modern world we’re living in.

RRM – re Wgtn shops and students. Completely agree!

I too do not appreciate loud unpleasant music in shops. I am attempting to show such shops the error of their ways by refusing to patronise them. I agree it is not The Gummint’s responsibility to ‘Do Something’ about it.

(Unfortunately most Wgtn shops are staffed by utterly clueless students, and the customers are usually the last thing on their minds…)