Unimpressed

October 9th, 2009 at 5:33 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

The Maori Party co-leaders wrote letters of support for , saying he was a man of integrity who had made a major contribution to his community and pleading for it to be taken into account in his sentencing.

I’m very unimpressed. I don’t mind so much pointing out his contribution to the community (as 87 other people also did) as he had done some good, outside his offending.

But to label him a man of integrity is a very bad call. He is not. He was convicted of trying to pervert the court of justice. He lied to Noel Ingram QC. He pressured others to lie to Mr Ingram, and they did. He lied to the Police and he again tried to get others to lie to the Police. He manufactured fake documents and lied about them. He is many things, but he is not a man of integrity.

The letters were on parliamentary letterhead and sent as MPs and co-leaders rather than in their capacity as ministers.

Sadly I think their “loyalty” to a “cousin” has over-ridden common sense. As I said above, I don’t have a big issue with pointing out his community service but I suggest the co-leaders re-read the Ingram report before they label him a man of integrity.

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33 Responses to “Unimpressed”

  1. pdm (842 comments) says:

    Perhaps they should read the judgement against him as well.

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  2. dad4justice (8,137 comments) says:

    This is another disgrace from people who have the collective IQ of a smelly freezing works gumboot. The audacity of these morons to use words like loyalty and integrity in defense of a fat blob criminal clearly shows the Maori party is a parasitic bunch of no clue racist thieves. Anybody that takes the stupid Maori party seriously needs an immediate lobotomy. This is far beyond a sick joke! How did these imbeciles get into parliament?

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  3. Chris2 (762 comments) says:

    My first response was that their actions undermined the constitutional separation of powers between the Judiciary and Parliament.

    Only a few months ago the Minister of Justice rightly criticised the Chief Justice for her public criticism of the prison system, telling her to stay out of politics and concentrate on administering the law.

    Well, I think the Chief Justice would now have ever right now to publicly tell Sharples and Turia (two Government Ministers) to stop trying to influence her Judges and stick to creating legislation.

    Similar support by maori MP’s was shown to that thief Donna Awatere when she was convicted, and before that, to the complete tosser Alamein Kopu (an allegedly illiterate MP).

    The primitive tribal mentality of maoris, even the supposedly educated ones like Sharples (” I’ve only been a Minister for a year”) means they will always support each other irrespective of the proven facts. They can never be relied upon to offer the country any sense of moral leadership.

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  4. Brian Smaller (4,012 comments) says:

    Yes, this automatic defence of criminals no matter what they have done is appalling. I would disown anyone in my family who did something like that, even if I did love them.

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  5. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    You are speaking very harshly of people who John Key invited to share in the governance of our country. Key has put a lot of power in their hands.

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  6. southtop (264 comments) says:

    maybe they are hoping that tila phil fields book comes out they are not mentioned.
    i reckon ol tila could come out of this quite well financially: book deal to be offered then that offer bettered by liarbour party people to keep him quiet, let the auction begin.

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  7. kiwirights (48 comments) says:

    I’m not sure about this, but I understood they took the view that he was misunderstood and it was European cultural norms being imposed on him. Field was probably too stupid to be malicious, and it is possible he genuinely didn’t think it was a bad idea, but I’d rather we imposed a prison “norm” on him. He always had far too great a sense of entitlement. If that is a Pacific norm, then it should be criticised!

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  8. pdm (842 comments) says:

    village idiot – perhaps even you can now see the difference between those on the right and those on the left. People on the right readily tell people, whoever they are, when they do stupid things. The left are mainly sycophants who wait to be told what they can say.

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  9. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    Ok pdm, I presume from that you are “on the right”, so you will readily accept being told you have written something very stupid. It seems like those “on the right” don’t see the stupid in themselves, only in others.

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  10. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    pdm – to live in a world as simplistic as yours must be so satisfying – sycophants to the left, alert, fair and decisive thinkers to the right!

    How I wish I could be like you, but I just can’t seem to shake that sycophancy! It’s a curse!

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  11. Manolo (13,571 comments) says:

    The Maori Party is a racist one. It will do whatever it takes to advance its cause, including writing letters of support for a crook like Field.

    The notion that because you’re brown you ought to be treated more leniently by the justice system is ingrained in their racist minds. It gets them the vote of some thick and stupid people.

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  12. pdm (842 comments) says:

    PG – fair enough – your view I accept it.

    VI _ who told you to say that, because you are so right – I am a simple man with stong views on what is right and what is wrong.

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  13. dimmocrazy (286 comments) says:

    Now John Key has said to not have problems with this. I think that point of view is also deserving of some comment. I have great problem with Key being so absolutely without moral spine when it comes to the Maori Party.

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  14. Swiftman the infidel (329 comments) says:

    Once again, what do you expect. You are dealing with low class Maoris.

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  15. Georgie (13 comments) says:

    good on the maori party, i dont like mr field but they have a right to support a former colleague . . .his sentence was huge because hes brown and they are making an example of him, simple as that: he’d have gotten less for GBH . . .

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  16. Georgie (13 comments) says:

    oh well swiftman if they are theyre in good company, sitting alongside a bunch of low class Pa-Ke-Has

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  17. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    pdm – then I sincerely hope you don’t wield power or influence of any sort.

    I have a question about stong – where do you get yours?
    (It’s just an example of the kind of trite humour us sycophants indulge in)

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  18. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    Mr Infidel – how we chuckled when you were given your last brace of demerits for the same comment!

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  19. wreck1080 (3,881 comments) says:

    pita sharples is a clown. he seems to be on course for a while, but every so often he makes outrageous statements that really make me think the man is a dimwit.

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  20. gee90 (90 comments) says:

    Comments like Swiftmans are stupid and not worth a response. They only distract from the real, very serious issue here.

    It is not about Maori. It is about Ministers.

    Pita Sharples is the Associate Minister of Corrections (among other portfolios). He has written to a judge, on Parliamentary letterhead, in support of a convicted criminal. He has attempted to influence the sentencing (obviously – that was the whole point of his letter). This is so clearly inappropriate for a Minister – especially of Corrections – that it beggars belief.

    But he has not even been reprimanded. Never mind losing his portfolio.

    It is, actually, a scandal. But we seem to have developed a bizarre detachment between the freelance actions of Ministers (under BOTH Labour and National) and the government they are part of. How far will this go? Too far already, IMHO.

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  21. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    Gee90 has the story. Key was covering himself on TV last night, trying to MAKE IT CLEAR that the comments/letters were NOT sent from Sharples and Turia as Ministers, but as …well, as what you might well ask?

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  22. Jack5 (5,051 comments) says:

    The Maori Party sympathising with “cousins” is a combustible action politically and ethically.

    Consider what would happen if some new political party openly designed to appeal to white, or non-Maori voters, expressed sympathy on a racial basis for persons found guilty of crimes. That is it expressed solidarity with white “cousins” convicted. That party’s action would be condemned (rightly IMHO) for its racist reaction.

    Sadly we seem to be setting off down the road to racial separation in NZ. Ironically, the ethnic minority leading the way thinks it is battling racism or the legacy of racism.

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  23. emmess (1,427 comments) says:

    John Key
    Get rid of the Maori Party from your government

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  24. village idiot (748 comments) says:

    Tricky to deal with, those koro and kuia.

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  25. Manolo (13,571 comments) says:

    “Get rid of the Maori Party from your government”

    Are you kidding?

    John Key will hang on to the racists until the very last minute and will exploit them to the full. Not that the Maori Party leaders dislike to be “exploited” that way, e.g., ministerial posts, free travel, perks and salaries they never dreamt of, etc. It is a marriage of convenience, as any other political alliance is.

    The shameful aspect is the National Party’s abdication of the principles of racial equality and fairness against the law regardless of skin colour.

    Key and the Tories look more and more spineless by the day.

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  26. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    You are all just racist colonialists hellbent on the oppression of minorities.

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  27. Kris K (3,570 comments) says:

    Jack5 11:05 am,

    The Maori Party sympathising with “cousins” is a combustible action politically and ethically.

    Consider what would happen if some new political party openly designed to appeal to white, or non-Maori voters, expressed sympathy on a racial basis for persons found guilty of crimes. That is it expressed solidarity with white “cousins” convicted. That party’s action would be condemned (rightly IMHO) for its racist reaction.

    Sadly we seem to be setting off down the road to racial separation in NZ. Ironically, the ethnic minority leading the way thinks it is battling racism or the legacy of racism.

    Absolutely agree Jack.
    If these ‘racists’ aren’t held to account then Key is guilty of condoning the views of those within his own government. This is pathetic, and I expect better from Sharples at least. You really do have to wonder if perhaps the Maori Party were also involved in, and condoned, the cover up and lies shown by Labour in their support for the perpetrator of Tilagate. More bloody lies and obfuscation by the liberal left in their support for one of their fellow ‘crims’. Sickening hypocrites!

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  28. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Oppression of minorities, nickb, you are kidding aren’t you? It is the oppression of the majority. Maori’s have so many extra privlidges and yet they still load up the prisons. I bellieve it was 67 percent in 2003. Maori always have their hand out to the government yet do very little to educate Maori and unfortunately that is what is needed but Sharples and TUria aren’t doing anything about it. The only thing I heard from Sharples is to give free university to Maori and Turia, what did she say when she was in office?? All Maori woman should get pregnant to increase the population. It didn’t matter if the woman was married or had a partner to raise the child with. Her solution is go on the dpb. Another government handout. I see asians coming here with nothing and work hard to get something. The hard working Maori I have met are furious and embarrassed at Maori because they don’t get off their asses. A Maori mate of mine who I respect told me Maori are more racist than Pakeha. I believe him.

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  29. Alistair Miller (498 comments) says:

    I would like to know if there is any difference between this situation, where these two clowns spoke in support of Field on his sentence as MPs (and Party Leaders) and NOT as Ministers, and when Winston Raymond Peters, unemployed of Herne Bay, spoke out against the China FTA in his capacity as an MP (and a Party Leader) and NOT as a Minister?

    I guess the only difference really is that WRP embarrassed New Zealand in front of what will soon be the world’s largest superpower, whereas Sharples and Turia only attempted to circumvent the separation of powers and undermine the Westminster Constitutional system on which our society is based :)

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  30. Kris K (3,570 comments) says:

    jackp 3:05 pm,

    Oppression of minorities, nickb, you are kidding aren’t you? It is the oppression of the majority.

    Yeah, Nick is kidding.

    You’re right about the oppression of the majority, and isn’t this the socialist’s way.
    How many laws and policies have come into being in the last 40+ years which have had absolutely no mandate from the majority of the populace? Strangely enough, most of these same laws have attacked the very foundation of the family – another socialist ploy to weaken opposition that they might further implement their policies. The only comfort I take is the knowledge that these traitors to common decency will pay; perhaps not in this life, but certainly in the next.

    In the NZ of today; if you’re ‘white’, middle class, love your kids, work for a living, pay your taxes, and promote good morals, then the state regards you as the enemy, and they will continue to persecute you for everything you stand for.
    Beam me up ‘Scotty’.

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  31. jabba (280 comments) says:

    I have never met Pita but I have HUGE respect for the guy .. he tries to transend all peoples to get them helping each other .. a massive effort but I wish him well.
    After saying that, I have an issue with having a Maori Party as I would with having a Honky Party. We need to get our 2 main parties to get more Maori (and other ethnic peoples) into mainstream politics. Labour have tried but when you see Shane Jones attacking his kind (MTV’s Rugby world cup thing as an example) then I sense my hope is a little like pissing into the wind.
    I dislike the us and them attitude that is happening.

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  32. Tauhei Notts (1,692 comments) says:

    It is understandable that Maori Party leaders would write about Taito Philip Field being an honourable man.
    That is because, compared to them, he is an honourable man.

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  33. 3-coil (1,215 comments) says:

    This only exposes yet again how naive and gullible Sharples and Turia are.

    Also, put any white-skinned person into Taito’s situation – would Sharples/Turia still blindly back them up with such zeal? Yeah right.

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