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	<title>Comments on: VUWSA supports VSM</title>
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		<title>By: peteremcc</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619642</link>
		<dc:creator>peteremcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[DPF: Luckily there is no cost involved in having the 2010 President speak in favour of Sir Roger&#039;s bill]

In fact Max Hardy said during his campaign that he would support VSM if that&#039;s what students wanted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[DPF: Luckily there is no cost involved in having the 2010 President speak in favour of Sir Roger's bill]</p>
<p>In fact Max Hardy said during his campaign that he would support VSM if that&#8217;s what students wanted!</p>
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		<title>By: Neilson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619595</link>
		<dc:creator>Neilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave

VUWSA SRC policies are not enforceable if they require expenditure by the executive. A General Meeting motion is required to enforce expenditure from the executive.

Because executive meetings are public singing smoke two joints would require a performance royalty to be paid. This would need to be paid by VUWSA and therefore the executive have decided that this SRC policy is invalid and it cannot be enforced.

VUWSA often decides these sorts of exceptions to policies in many cases and so they do not often repeal decisions at further SRC meetings. They often argue that staff time / emails / research / communication / submission all require expenditure and that invalidates almost all policies if they do not wish to apply them.

Regards
Alexander

[DPF: Luckily there is no cost involved in having the 2010 President speak in favour of Sir Roger&#039;s bill]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>VUWSA SRC policies are not enforceable if they require expenditure by the executive. A General Meeting motion is required to enforce expenditure from the executive.</p>
<p>Because executive meetings are public singing smoke two joints would require a performance royalty to be paid. This would need to be paid by VUWSA and therefore the executive have decided that this SRC policy is invalid and it cannot be enforced.</p>
<p>VUWSA often decides these sorts of exceptions to policies in many cases and so they do not often repeal decisions at further SRC meetings. They often argue that staff time / emails / research / communication / submission all require expenditure and that invalidates almost all policies if they do not wish to apply them.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Alexander</p>
<p>[DPF: Luckily there is no cost involved in having the 2010 President speak in favour of Sir Roger's bill]</p>
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		<title>By: Put it away</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619311</link>
		<dc:creator>Put it away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez MikeNZ, have  you noticed everybody here is having fun except you ? Tough day for the left when freedom gets increased eh ? What a shame for you that we don&#039;t give a shit !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez MikeNZ, have  you noticed everybody here is having fun except you ? Tough day for the left when freedom gets increased eh ? What a shame for you that we don&#8217;t give a shit !</p>
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		<title>By: Put it away</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619310</link>
		<dc:creator>Put it away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful.  More lefty tinpot dictators put on notice ! Congrats to all involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful.  More lefty tinpot dictators put on notice ! Congrats to all involved.</p>
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		<title>By: CircusMind</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619227</link>
		<dc:creator>CircusMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another victory for the enlightened individual over the tyranny of society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another victory for the enlightened individual over the tyranny of society.</p>
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		<title>By: slightlyrighty</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619185</link>
		<dc:creator>slightlyrighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fantastic!

Bloody Well Done to all those who participated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic!</p>
<p>Bloody Well Done to all those who participated!</p>
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		<title>By: MikeNZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619180</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they are in good company Dave
writing rules they don&#039;t really mean people to obey.
Is their hero John Key?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they are in good company Dave<br />
writing rules they don&#8217;t really mean people to obey.<br />
Is their hero John Key?</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619177</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VUWSA&#039;s policies don&#039;t really mean much.  A &quot;policy&quot; passed in 2004 - which has not been overturned - was that the VUWSA exec must sing ‘Smoke two joints’ by Sublime before every exec meeting. As far as I am aware this policy has not been implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VUWSA&#8217;s policies don&#8217;t really mean much.  A &#8220;policy&#8221; passed in 2004 &#8211; which has not been overturned &#8211; was that the VUWSA exec must sing ‘Smoke two joints’ by Sublime before every exec meeting. As far as I am aware this policy has not been implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: goonix</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619168</link>
		<dc:creator>goonix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! :D

Edit: Well done Peter, I imagine you had a bit to do with rustling up the numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Edit: Well done Peter, I imagine you had a bit to do with rustling up the numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: peteremcc</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619163</link>
		<dc:creator>peteremcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to everyone that came along.

A fantastic result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to everyone that came along.</p>
<p>A fantastic result.</p>
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		<title>By: vibenna</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619123</link>
		<dc:creator>vibenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.  Reminds me of the SRC yonks ago at Otago University, when the constitution was amended.  The office of president was renamed Emperor, the term extended to life, and the stipend increased to 10% of the association&#039;s budget !

[DPF: Liam was made King not Emperor, but yes it was a lifetime appointment. Of course at the next SRC he was shot with water pistols by assassins yelling out &quot;The only good Kennedy is a dead Kennedy :-)]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.  Reminds me of the SRC yonks ago at Otago University, when the constitution was amended.  The office of president was renamed Emperor, the term extended to life, and the stipend increased to 10% of the association&#8217;s budget !</p>
<p>[DPF: Liam was made King not Emperor, but yes it was a lifetime appointment. Of course at the next SRC he was shot with water pistols by assassins yelling out "The only good Kennedy is a dead Kennedy <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]</p>
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		<title>By: beerguts</title>
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		<dc:creator>beerguts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol.  That is absolutely brilliant!!     What about the feeble stalling tactics - what a joke!!

Just shows that not many give a toss about these guys and they are essentially a waste of time.   Good luck in attracting members!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.  That is absolutely brilliant!!     What about the feeble stalling tactics &#8211; what a joke!!</p>
<p>Just shows that not many give a toss about these guys and they are essentially a waste of time.   Good luck in attracting members!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimble</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619100</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>suck it VUWSA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suck it VUWSA</p>
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		<title>By: nickb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619098</link>
		<dc:creator>nickb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: OllieGI</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/vuwsa_supports_vsm.html#comment-619090</link>
		<dc:creator>OllieGI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic news for all students that believe in individual rights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic news for all students that believe in individual rights!</p>
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