Blog Bits
November 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm by David FarrarJust three quick ones:
- Grant Robertson blogs that State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie has told the Dept of Labour they were wrong to advise staff not to take part in a rally on pay equity. This is why Rennie is so well respected – he is not scared to get offside with Ministers. A pity he wasn’t Commissioner when Labour were getting Madeline Setchell sacked over her boyfriend’s job, and smearing Erin Leigh for resisting a political appointment. I’m still waiting for Grant to show the same energy in deploring those events.
- The Standard blogs on a petition to Parliament to “make public displays of nudity and profanity illegal in our nation”. Fuck that I say. The only place profanity and nudity should be banned is in the Debating Chamber
- Eric Crampton fisks Alcohol Action NZ.
November 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
” The Standard blogs on ”
Well they would be damn hypocrites then wouldn’t they. All over the blogosphere, left wing blogs (The Standard, Public Address, Kiwipolitico etc etc etc) are flat out banning commentors for “profane” language.
Then again, maybe the real reason they ban ban ban ban ban is something else.
Like ideas they don’t agreee with???
Naaah, couldn’t be that.
The buzzword in leftist la la land these days is “tolerance”. How then could they ever ban people simply for their ideas.
Sorry commies- that only leaves hypocrisy.
Vote:November 20th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Why would you ban it in the chamber? They are uncivilized humans at the best of times so why the charade?
Vote:November 21st, 2009 at 2:33 am
I’m glad I’m not trying to sleep with some of those images in my mind.
I think you can differentiate between the Setchell and Leigh cases.
Setchell was badly treated and I have made that point before.
There is still legal action proceeding in the Leigh case and I think it is better to let that take its course so what actually happened will eventually become clear.
Vote:November 21st, 2009 at 7:28 am
DPF carries on with his urbane liberalism which is so popular in the boutique bars of Auckland Wellington but is rather questionable over all.
Vote:Freedom to swear etc is I believe an indication the person doing so is insecure or intellectually inadequate. There are so many verbal ways of expressing oneself other tossing in “f”‘s, and “c”‘s and other words that are inappropriate to others.
Having being in a school lately and hearing the “f” wor basndied around like the words “well done”, makes me wonder why there is the prevalence of plain rude and inappropriate language. Kids at school have in the past been suspended for using the “f” word.I am not a “wowser” but I do not like listening to expletive expressions by persons who think they are smart or to show hoiw “tough” they are.
I’ll make it quite obvious ! I don’t like posts on Kiwiblog filled with expletives. People have the freedom of expression, but equally so do people who won’t use those expletives who are reading them.
I can assure you, teaching at our secondary schools is really difficult David. All the great theories about poor teachers, teaching new concepts etc are nothing to the attitude some of those kids have.
Yesterday a boy arrived at school late for an exam. Asked why, this indulged boy from the rural squirachy said that he couldn’t get a car park near the school and he had expected the exam would be delayed until he arrived. What arrogrance from a 16 year old !!.
Added to changing social attitudes, this attitude of the “rights” but not their responsibilities is just so concerning.
That sums up the use of inappropriate bad language. Society should resist it, not by legalistic means but by expressing our odium at bad language by treating the perpetrator with contempt.
I fear for the good nature of our society if we don’t try to arrest some of these dangers .
November 21st, 2009 at 7:53 am
Who badly treated M/S Setchell Trevor?
Vote:November 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Trevor Mallard said “I think you can differentiate between the Setchell and Leigh cases.
Setchell was badly treated and I have made that point before.
There is still legal action proceeding in the Leigh case and I think it is better to let that take its course so what actually happened will eventually become clear.”
Is Trevor trying to say that the point of differentiation between Leigh and Setchell is that Erin Leigh WASN’T badly treated? That’s certainly how his comment reads. Of course he would say that, given that it was indeed Trevor Mallard who dished out the treatment to Erin Leigh, which is, as he notes, the subject of legal action.
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