According to the Bible, God made day and night on the first day, but then made the Sun on the fourth day. Which pretty much doesn’t fit with anything proven by science.

Now I don’t usually like to quote a whole lot of Bible verses to support my arguments; but in this case I feel I must to adequately support my assertions.

How was there light prior to the creation of the sun on day four?

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Yes, there was light before the sun was created on day four. (Bare with me)

Isa 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

There will come a time where the sun will no longer be the provider of light; God Himself shall be your (literal) light.

2Co 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Just as God commanded the light to shine before the sun was created, He also shines His spiritual light into our hearts. There is a link between God’s supernatural light (prior to the sun) and His spiritual light.

1Jo 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

God Himself is light – both physically and spiritually.

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

After the new earth and the new heavens have been created, God Himself will be the provider of light – there will be no need for the sun/moon/stars. God’s light; His glory, shall illuminate the entire creation.

Conclusion:
This is how there could be light prior to the creation of the sun; God Himself was the light prior to day four when the sun came into being.

It is understood that the early atmosphere was translucent not clear as it is now, if you read Genesis as though it was written by a theoretical observer on the ground the Sun Moon and stars would not have been visible until well after day and night existed, Genesis refers to these as “lights in the sky” after all, so an earth based view point is inferred. This is further confirmed in the book of Job where it refers to the earth being wrapped in darkness.

Michael E, that’s exactly why we can’t read Genesis as a scientific textbook, when it’s obviously a creation myth. Genesis precedes science by ~5000 years so it’s kind of annoying when young-earther creationists try and impose their 21st century template on their reading of the scriptures. An exclusively literal interpretation leads to all kinds of silliness.

The Nicean creed (which according to my RE Teacher at college said is what Christians believe) simply starts: “We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things seen and unseen.“. Doesn’t preclude anything discovered by scientists.

The whole “young earth” creationism thing is actually declining and other interpretations are becoming more widespread. Like any activists the young earthers were a very noisy minority with an axe to grind.
Modern science is actually a great deal more friendly to Christianity than even in Darwins day, and the theory of evolution is not without its problems.

Satan’s main tools in his toolbox

Stahlwille or Snap-on?.

Not sure about that. When you ask people “do you believe in evolution” many say no because they believe the Bible is the literal word of God and that it dates the world at about 6000 years and says it was all created by God in 7 days. Which is completely incompatible with evolution which is why they honestly answer “No”.

You exactly describe my position and belief, Malcolm.

I really DO believe that evolution is completely incompatible with the Biblical account of Creation.
Not only that, but evolution leads many directly to hell; one of Satan’s main tools in his toolbox.

..because over the years this question has been conflated to mean “Do you believe in evolution or God”. Most people with religion do believe in God and do believe in evolution, but when the question has become an implied either/or they get defensive and stick up for God.

Not sure about that. When you ask people “do you believe in evolution” many say no because they believe the Bible is the literal word of God and that it dates the world at about 6000 years and says it was all created by God in 7 days. Which is completely incompatible with evolution which is why they honestly answer “No”.

Not really. Pollsters agree its a touchy subject when you ask “Do you believe in evolution”.. because over the years this question has been conflated to mean “Do you believe in evolution or God”. Most people with religion do believe in God and do believe in evolution, but when the question has become an implied either/or they get defensive and stick up for God.

There’s the same conflation with Global Warming.. if you asked “Do you believe in man made Global Warming or its just God fucking about”.. you’d get lots saying God rather than AGW

JC

(A) Creation
(B) Evolution
(C) God-supervised evolution

Maybe Darwin was wary of going to a Christian barber with a gleaming cut throat.