So what does that say about us with Key and National?

I’m sceptical that even Maori themselves understand the meaning of this term. “People of the land” or anything that refers to Maori as the first people of NZ is a common definition, though I fail to see how this makes them any different from anyone else. I must apologise here now actually – I’m coming from a thread that was back in April about Harawira speaking at a policy lecture at UofA where he called one Steve Baron, a student, a racist due to the latter’s including Maori as a minority group in NZ. Which of course they are.

Basically my point is Harawira should be stood down as an MP of this country. He is not a good role model for his constituents.

My bet is that he will be publicly thrashed with a wet lettuce leaf, while being privately told by the kaumatua to “take the white man for all he’s got-how was Paris?”

Such bindings were, and may still be, standard winter practice for Russian troops, and followed centuries old Russian peasant practice. Worn inside tough boots, they were virtually water proof, and withstood the bitter winter conditions better than the Germans’ socks and boots.

The Russians were also cruel to the Germans, but at least they do not boast about it, as Cadmus’s odious German obviously does (or did).

The comments would have been about the Kalmyks, Khazahks, Buryats, and other Tatar minorities in Russia. They formed an important part of the Siberian divisions that were called westwards when the Germans threatened Moscow, and after a spy reported to Moscow that the Japanese were going to strike south towards Malaysia, IndoChina, and the SOuth Pacific rather than attack the Soviet Union in Siberia.

The Siberian divisions, tough and at home in the snow, turned the tide for Russia, and thus for all of us. They gave the German Army the critical hiding of the war at the approaches to Moscow, even more important than Stalingrad. It was such a defeat that Nazi political “cabinet minister” Fritz Todt, the builder of Germany’s superb autobahns, flew to Hitler and called on him to sue for peace with Stalin. Hitler rejected the idea, and Todt’s plane blew up on a flight away from the meeting, brought down by a bomb believed to have been planted by the SS.

The Tatar troops were excellent soldiers, and when in tank units, they adapted their ancient cavalry tactics, such as the fish-hook retreat.

The German’s comments as reported by Cadmus, are the sort of odious racism you would expect from a fanatic Nazi. Fuck him. I’m pleased our fathers and uncles (these days I guess, our grandfathers) fought such scum, and thankful they had the Red Army on their side, Tatars included.

By the way I hadn’t heard of ex-Nazis volunteering to fight in Vietnam, though earlier plenty of ex-SS troops were in the French units in the French IndoChina war, as part of a clemency deal.

How much tax do you pay ?

Are you self employed so people like me can get you off tax, or are you a weasly snively little employee, whos employer has to PAYE on your behalf ?

In the offending letter Brown used a thick crayon, and referred to the mother of soldier Jamie Janes by the wrong name.

“I would never show disrespect to anyone by spelling something badly,” said Mrs. Janes (Is this right? -ed.)

The Prime Minister, well known for having a head for figures, is “a dark horse when it comes to spelling”, according to one spelling expert.

“It’s kind of ironic that he misspelt her rather simple name when he gets regular practise spelling long words like Incompetence, Recession and Financial-Armageddon.”

Calligraphy

Gordon Brown drew fire of his own this week, and not all of it friendly, when he was accused not just of bad spelling but poor penmanship.

The maligned PM has reportedly taken up calligraphy in an effort to improve his writing. He is thought to be working on Baroque Hand and Champignon Serif in an effort to wow the next tranche of bereaved next of kin.

Support

Labour supporters believe the recent events work in the government’s favour, pointing out that a one-eyed man who can’t spell has much in common with the people, or at the very least should secure the crucial pirate vote.

A Conservative spokesman this week said: “I’ve been in politics for 58 years, the writing is on the wall for Labour – though to be honest you can hardly read it.”

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Talking of Nazi Germany I new a guy that was in the Hitler Youth as a kid. He volunteered for Nam and was excepted no problem. The same guy told me that things were great in Germany until 1942 . He said he would go back to those days again if he could, everyone was happy. I asked about the killing of those undisireables. He thought it was great idea, so did eveyone else. He told me that in the end everyone (Germans) were happy and Proud to be German for once instead of being the scum of Europe. As the undisirables vanished the whole of society felt safer, more money, new goods. He said people didn’t do anything not because of fear but because the govt was doing a great job most thought? He told me they never showed the good side of Germany in the 1930’s when the rest of the world was starving and unemployed and they where having a great time. I said what happened near the end of the war. He told me nothing! his sister was in the Girls Hitler Youth our mother burned the uniforms and headed West. The house was stuffed the old man was in a prison camp in France and we started a New life in the US in 1947. He said he joined up to fight in Nam because he hated gooks! He told me half the Russian Soviet army was full of them, he rembered seeing them captured on news reels in Germany, ugly horrible little people in uniforms far to big for them. He told me the germans used to hang the gooks upside down with a rope around the feet when they captured them ,the gooks didn’t like that.

The fellow sounds undesirable himself.

I know Pansey Wong was born in Shanghi???? Wong and her husband have had several trips to China. Who know’s the Wong’s could have a hidden agenda??? Remember the Rosenberg’s.

Talking of Nazi Germany I new a guy that was in the Hitler Youth as a kid. He volunteered for Nam and was excepted no problem. The same guy told me that things were great in Germany until 1942 . He said he would go back to those days again if he could, everyone was happy. I asked about the killing of those undisireables. He thought it was great idea, so did eveyone else. He told me that in the end everyone (Germans) were happy and Proud to be German for once instead of being the scum of Europe. As the undisirables vanished the whole of society felt safer, more money, new goods. He said people didn’t do anything not because of fear but because the govt was doing a great job most thought? He told me they never showed the good side of Germany in the 1930′s when the rest of the world was starving and unemployed and they where having a great time. I said what happened near the end of the war. He told me nothing! his sister was in the Girls Hitler Youth our mother burned the uniforms and headed West. The house was stuffed the old man was in a prison camp in France and we started a New life in the US in 1947. He said he joined up to fight in Nam because he hated gooks! He told me half the Russian Soviet army was full of them, he rembered seeing them captured on news reels in Germany, ugly horrible little people in uniforms far to big for them. He told me the germans used to hang the gooks upside down with a rope around the feet when they captured them ,the gooks didn’t like that.

I found it quit interesting, but somethings he told me are best left off this board!

Ryan Sproull at 10.10 asked for references for Hitler’s atheism, and later suggested Hitler promoted something called positive Christianity.

I didn’t suggest, I cited historical fact.

Here’s a good solid reference Ryan. Michael Burleigh, one of the top historical authorities on Hitler, in his 2000 book: The Third Reich, a New History. See the last chapter in Part Nine, “Men of God”.

Hitler’s views in his own words:

Christianity is nothing but ” wholehearted Bolshevism under a tinsel of methaphysics”.

And Christianity is “an invention of sick brains” and Hitler asked: “Who is this God who takes pleasure only in seeing men grovel before him”.

And, pertinent to the Pacific: “.. a Negro with his taboos is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation…”

And “.. I dream of a state of affairs in which every man would know that he lives and dies for the preservation of the species…”

Burleigh says elsewhere in the book that for the Nazis, Christ was an inconvenience, except when crucified by the Jews.

Burleigh also writes Nazis despised Christianity (page 255 of the Pan edition of the book).

The question wasn’t whether or not Hitler was a Christian, but whether or not he was an atheist.

But that research does seem to suggest that if he was a theist, he wasn’t a Christian theist.

I thought we were the crown, the collective?
If not off with her head!

Get your head around the idea that the people ARE the government. Those elected to operate it are our servants. Not the other way round.

Lingual gymnastics wont change that simple fact.

Your impression that your money is used for anything specific other than for the benefit of an operating system is wrong. You pay tax.

Given that you are suggesting two separate nations existing along side each other I fail to see why I should have to pay one cent to Maori.