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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636419</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>450 PEER-REVIEWED PAPERS SUPPORTING SKEPTICISM OF AGW 

&lt;blockquote&gt;let&#039;s just look at the first 10. 1. Nothing skeptical about AGW in Loehle&#039;s article. Not one word. 2. is a correction to 1. Double-counting 3. Opinion piece by Balling in the AAPG&#039;s journal. Not peer-reviewed. 4. First real peer-reviewed paper. Considering the authors, expect major flaws. 5. Article in 2000 from E&amp;E. NOT peer-reviewed. 6. Not &#039;skeptical&#039; of AGW in the WUWT-sense. 7. Commentary of Boehmer-Christiansen. Peer-reviewed? Doubtful 8. Valid entry number 2. 9. LOL. Comment on comment to paper #8. In a sense double counting, and those comments are usually not peer-reviewed 10. Even more LO. Correction to paper #8. Triple counting!

Interesting, isn&#039;t it? In the first 10 already so many problems. Also interesting: They refer to Zeebe et al, which isn&#039;t even close to critical of AGW. It only notes that with the accepted climate sensitivity to CO2, there wasn&#039;t enough CO2 to explain the observed temperature increase during the PETM. In other words, it argues that other forcings must have been present, or the climate sensitivity to CO2 is LARGER than currently accepted...

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/11/global_warming_skeptics_score.php#comment-2076797 &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>let&#8217;s just look at the first 10. 1. Nothing skeptical about AGW in Loehle&#8217;s article. Not one word. 2. is a correction to 1. Double-counting 3. Opinion piece by Balling in the AAPG&#8217;s journal. Not peer-reviewed. 4. First real peer-reviewed paper. Considering the authors, expect major flaws. 5. Article in 2000 from E&amp;E. NOT peer-reviewed. 6. Not &#8216;skeptical&#8217; of AGW in the WUWT-sense. 7. Commentary of Boehmer-Christiansen. Peer-reviewed? Doubtful 8. Valid entry number 2. 9. LOL. Comment on comment to paper #8. In a sense double counting, and those comments are usually not peer-reviewed 10. Even more LO. Correction to paper #8. Triple counting!</p>
<p>Interesting, isn&#8217;t it? In the first 10 already so many problems. Also interesting: They refer to Zeebe et al, which isn&#8217;t even close to critical of AGW. It only notes that with the accepted climate sensitivity to CO2, there wasn&#8217;t enough CO2 to explain the observed temperature increase during the PETM. In other words, it argues that other forcings must have been present, or the climate sensitivity to CO2 is LARGER than currently accepted&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/11/global_warming_skeptics_score.php#comment-2076797" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/11/global_warming_skeptics_score.php#comment-2076797</a><br />
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		<title>By: Viking2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636416</link>
		<dc:creator>Viking2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party supported the repeal bill and there were cries of &quot;shame&quot; when Act MP David Garrett said his party opposed it.
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Mr Garrett said the central point in the Weatherston case was that the defence failed.

&quot;Abolishing it suggests we don&#039;t trust juries,&quot; he said.

The repeal shifted the argument of provocation from juries to judges, who can consider it in sentencing.

&quot;It makes more sense to put our trust in juries,&quot; he said.&quot;</description>
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<p>Mr Garrett said the central point in the Weatherston case was that the defence failed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Abolishing it suggests we don&#8217;t trust juries,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>The repeal shifted the argument of provocation from juries to judges, who can consider it in sentencing.</p>
<p>&#8220;It makes more sense to put our trust in juries,&#8221; he said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636415</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;getstaffed at 11:19 pm

Perhaps read each of these 450 PEER-REVIEWED PAPERS SUPPORTING SKEPTICISM OF AGW &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Skepticism of AGW and climate change is healthy. How many peer reviewed papers are there in total on the topic?

If Anthony Watt is having is having a balanced look at it he will have surely collated them too? But that&#039;s not likely, the policy adviser to the Science and Public Policy Institute is Monckton, and the institute financed the film Apocalypse No. So this is more likely to be one sided.

&quot;While the SPPI seems primarily to be the work of Robert Ferguson, it also features on it website the work of other prominent climate change skeptics who are involved with one or more other anti-Kyoto treaty groups.&quot;

And yes, the source is important, it puts the balance (or imbalance) into context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>getstaffed at 11:19 pm</p>
<p>Perhaps read each of these 450 PEER-REVIEWED PAPERS SUPPORTING SKEPTICISM OF AGW </p></blockquote>
<p>Skepticism of AGW and climate change is healthy. How many peer reviewed papers are there in total on the topic?</p>
<p>If Anthony Watt is having is having a balanced look at it he will have surely collated them too? But that&#8217;s not likely, the policy adviser to the Science and Public Policy Institute is Monckton, and the institute financed the film Apocalypse No. So this is more likely to be one sided.</p>
<p>&#8220;While the SPPI seems primarily to be the work of Robert Ferguson, it also features on it website the work of other prominent climate change skeptics who are involved with one or more other anti-Kyoto treaty groups.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, the source is important, it puts the balance (or imbalance) into context.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636414</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>valeriusterminus,

can you elaborate on your earlier post please? whats Rus and the corroboration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>valeriusterminus,</p>
<p>can you elaborate on your earlier post please? whats Rus and the corroboration?</p>
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		<title>By: Viking2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636413</link>
		<dc:creator>Viking2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, we now have a law that disallows anyone from defending themselves in court against any changes where they have been provoked beyond their mental capacity to cope with any abuse, mental or physical.
The only MP&#039;s to oppose the removal of the defense of provocation were the ACT MP&#039;s.
The rest of the slimeballs colluded to usurp hundreds of years of legal argument that forms the case history of law. A totally predictable, emotional reaction to one high profile murder.
Appalling but not surprising.
Apparently it was to save the gays and women according to Charles Chauvell.

Provocation defense gone

Friday, 27, Nov, 2009 12:01AM

The partial defense of provocation can no longer be used in court.

MPs, sitting under urgency, have passed the Crimes Provocation Repeal Amendment Bill into law by 116 votes to five.

ACT was the only party to vote against the law change.

Labour&#039;s Charles Chauvel told ACT&#039;s MPs that opposing the bill was an insult to the victims of violent crime. Mr Chauvel said they should be ashamed for sanctioning a defense that legitimizes violence against gay men and against women.

Where was Findlayson who is supposed to stand up for the integrity of the law making process. He should resign forthwith as should all the other lawyers that sit in that house and supported this legislation. Appalling.

Before you all beat me up, no women or man that is driven to that point by another individual now has any defense no matter how heinous the provocation. Think about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, we now have a law that disallows anyone from defending themselves in court against any changes where they have been provoked beyond their mental capacity to cope with any abuse, mental or physical.<br />
The only MP&#8217;s to oppose the removal of the defense of provocation were the ACT MP&#8217;s.<br />
The rest of the slimeballs colluded to usurp hundreds of years of legal argument that forms the case history of law. A totally predictable, emotional reaction to one high profile murder.<br />
Appalling but not surprising.<br />
Apparently it was to save the gays and women according to Charles Chauvell.</p>
<p>Provocation defense gone</p>
<p>Friday, 27, Nov, 2009 12:01AM</p>
<p>The partial defense of provocation can no longer be used in court.</p>
<p>MPs, sitting under urgency, have passed the Crimes Provocation Repeal Amendment Bill into law by 116 votes to five.</p>
<p>ACT was the only party to vote against the law change.</p>
<p>Labour&#8217;s Charles Chauvel told ACT&#8217;s MPs that opposing the bill was an insult to the victims of violent crime. Mr Chauvel said they should be ashamed for sanctioning a defense that legitimizes violence against gay men and against women.</p>
<p>Where was Findlayson who is supposed to stand up for the integrity of the law making process. He should resign forthwith as should all the other lawyers that sit in that house and supported this legislation. Appalling.</p>
<p>Before you all beat me up, no women or man that is driven to that point by another individual now has any defense no matter how heinous the provocation. Think about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tassman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636412</link>
		<dc:creator>Tassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the removal of the provocation defence, now you can bully all you like because your victims will be prosecuted should they react!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the removal of the provocation defence, now you can bully all you like because your victims will be prosecuted should they react!</p>
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		<title>By: sbk</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636411</link>
		<dc:creator>sbk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But that’s not about the science, it’s about paranoia. There is a difference.&quot;...exactly Luc its not about science..its about the climate scientists creating an atmosphere of fear..thats the difference..dont forget these emails and documents were not from just &quot;scientists&quot; but from the &quot;leading climate scientists&quot; who essentially defined the paradigm(AGW),and as a we all know some of the greatest scientitific discoveries have come from scientists who have challanged the accepted paradigm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But that’s not about the science, it’s about paranoia. There is a difference.&#8221;&#8230;exactly Luc its not about science..its about the climate scientists creating an atmosphere of fear..thats the difference..dont forget these emails and documents were not from just &#8220;scientists&#8221; but from the &#8220;leading climate scientists&#8221; who essentially defined the paradigm(AGW),and as a we all know some of the greatest scientitific discoveries have come from scientists who have challanged the accepted paradigm..</p>
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		<title>By: valeriusterminus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636406</link>
		<dc:creator>valeriusterminus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I downloaded the 63MB from wikileaks and saw the £5M grant to the Rus for the field trips.  Then I saw the claim of credibility because the Rus corroborated - hence the Raw deletions did not matter.
Then I realised that this was big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded the 63MB from wikileaks and saw the £5M grant to the Rus for the field trips.  Then I saw the claim of credibility because the Rus corroborated &#8211; hence the Raw deletions did not matter.<br />
Then I realised that this was big.</p>
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		<title>By: pentwig</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636405</link>
		<dc:creator>pentwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luc
However, attempts to quantify
the scientific consensus on anthropogenic
warming have met with criticism.
For instance, Oreskes [2004] reviewed 928
abstracts from peer-reviewed
research
papers and found that more than 75%
either explicitly or implicitly accepted
the consensus view that Earth’s climate
is being affected by human activities.
Yet Oreskes’s approach has been criticized
for overstating the level of consensus
acceptance within the examined
abstracts [Peiser, 2005] and for not capturing
the full diversity of scientific opinion
[Pielke, 2005]. A review of previous
attempts at quantifying the consensus and
criticisms is provided by Kendall Zimmerman
[2008]. The objective of our study
presented here is to assess the scientific
consensus on climate change through
an unbiased survey of a large and broad
group of Earth scientists.
An invitation to participate in the survey
was sent to 10,257 Earth scientists.

So the paper you was contentuous and only sent to 10,257 Earth scientists.

Looking at the fraud now discovered who can believe that crap?
It was obviously slanted from the start.
The whole credibility of climate change is now in doubt.
Let the unbiased data flow!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luc<br />
However, attempts to quantify<br />
the scientific consensus on anthropogenic<br />
warming have met with criticism.<br />
For instance, Oreskes [2004] reviewed 928<br />
abstracts from peer-reviewed<br />
research<br />
papers and found that more than 75%<br />
either explicitly or implicitly accepted<br />
the consensus view that Earth’s climate<br />
is being affected by human activities.<br />
Yet Oreskes’s approach has been criticized<br />
for overstating the level of consensus<br />
acceptance within the examined<br />
abstracts [Peiser, 2005] and for not capturing<br />
the full diversity of scientific opinion<br />
[Pielke, 2005]. A review of previous<br />
attempts at quantifying the consensus and<br />
criticisms is provided by Kendall Zimmerman<br />
[2008]. The objective of our study<br />
presented here is to assess the scientific<br />
consensus on climate change through<br />
an unbiased survey of a large and broad<br />
group of Earth scientists.<br />
An invitation to participate in the survey<br />
was sent to 10,257 Earth scientists.</p>
<p>So the paper you was contentuous and only sent to 10,257 Earth scientists.</p>
<p>Looking at the fraud now discovered who can believe that crap?<br />
It was obviously slanted from the start.<br />
The whole credibility of climate change is now in doubt.<br />
Let the unbiased data flow!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chicken Little</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636404</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicken Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes what?

You&#039;ve read the emails? How are they used out of context then? Please explain. Just cite the email # you&#039;re talking about and we&#039;ll have a look at it, OK?

You&#039;ve read the documents? What did you think of HARRY_READ_ME. Devastating isn&#039;t it? Shows conclusively, in their own words, that they made the data fit the &#039;models&#039;. Is that how you think science should work? 

Anyway, the kids will be up a 6am so I better try and get a bit of shuteye.

I think I&#039;ll make you my &#039;special&#039; friend Luc, you seem so smart and all.

Talk to you tomorrow Luc ;0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes what?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve read the emails? How are they used out of context then? Please explain. Just cite the email # you&#8217;re talking about and we&#8217;ll have a look at it, OK?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve read the documents? What did you think of HARRY_READ_ME. Devastating isn&#8217;t it? Shows conclusively, in their own words, that they made the data fit the &#8216;models&#8217;. Is that how you think science should work? </p>
<p>Anyway, the kids will be up a 6am so I better try and get a bit of shuteye.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll make you my &#8216;special&#8217; friend Luc, you seem so smart and all.</p>
<p>Talk to you tomorrow Luc ;0</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636403</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chicken

yes.

Hurf

that was naughty of them.  But that&#039;s not about the science, it&#039;s about paranoia.  There is a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chicken</p>
<p>yes.</p>
<p>Hurf</p>
<p>that was naughty of them.  But that&#8217;s not about the science, it&#8217;s about paranoia.  There is a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurf Durf</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636402</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurf Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the nuance of deleting emails to prevent them being released under a Freedom of Information request.

&quot;waaaaaaaaaah all dey wont to do iz poke holes in it,&quot; yeah, testing your theory is sort of the point. Eco-socialists yelling THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED is hardly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the nuance of deleting emails to prevent them being released under a Freedom of Information request.</p>
<p>&#8220;waaaaaaaaaah all dey wont to do iz poke holes in it,&#8221; yeah, testing your theory is sort of the point. Eco-socialists yelling THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED is hardly that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicken Little</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636401</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicken Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luc have you read any of the emails?

Have you read any of the documents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luc have you read any of the emails?</p>
<p>Have you read any of the documents?</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and here&#039;s an extract:

It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes. The challenge, rather, appears to be how to effectively communicate this fact to policy makers and to a public that continues to mistakenly perceive debate
among scientists

QED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and here&#8217;s an extract:</p>
<p>It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes. The challenge, rather, appears to be how to effectively communicate this fact to policy makers and to a public that continues to mistakenly perceive debate<br />
among scientists</p>
<p>QED</p>
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		<title>By: valeriusterminus</title>
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		<dc:creator>valeriusterminus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurf and Luc
I caution our talents, in which light we respectfully bask - &quot;colours - pole - too soon&quot;  Ideals are the end, and by a sleep to say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurf and Luc<br />
I caution our talents, in which light we respectfully bask &#8211; &#8220;colours &#8211; pole &#8211; too soon&#8221;  Ideals are the end, and by a sleep to say!</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636398</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pentwig, here you go...

http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pentwig, here you go&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/general_debate_26_november_2009.html#comment-636397</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez pentwig, it&#039;s a bit late to dig it up again, but it was a worldwide survey by the University of Illinois, from memory.

As for how old I am, maybe you should ask my 14mth old daughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez pentwig, it&#8217;s a bit late to dig it up again, but it was a worldwide survey by the University of Illinois, from memory.</p>
<p>As for how old I am, maybe you should ask my 14mth old daughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicken Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicken Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read the emails Luc?

How about the documents? Are they out of context?

The quote from &#039;Harry&#039; is from HARRY_READ_ME (which I think will become the most famous computer file ever in the next few months). Harry is the guy trying to sort out the Dataset and modeling software. &#039;Harry&#039; has a Phd and is an expert Climate Scientist. Poor &#039;Harry&#039; thinks the dataset is &#039;completely useless&#039;. &#039;Harry&#039; also notes in this document how he has been ordered to insert made up data to get closer to the model. I shit you not.

Maybe you need to do a little more research Luc

The full file is up on multiple torrents. Have look for yourself. Have a look at the entire email strings and see if they&#039;re out of context. Have a look in the docs at HARRY_READ_ME. Go on I dare ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the emails Luc?</p>
<p>How about the documents? Are they out of context?</p>
<p>The quote from &#8216;Harry&#8217; is from HARRY_READ_ME (which I think will become the most famous computer file ever in the next few months). Harry is the guy trying to sort out the Dataset and modeling software. &#8216;Harry&#8217; has a Phd and is an expert Climate Scientist. Poor &#8216;Harry&#8217; thinks the dataset is &#8216;completely useless&#8217;. &#8216;Harry&#8217; also notes in this document how he has been ordered to insert made up data to get closer to the model. I shit you not.</p>
<p>Maybe you need to do a little more research Luc</p>
<p>The full file is up on multiple torrents. Have look for yourself. Have a look at the entire email strings and see if they&#8217;re out of context. Have a look in the docs at HARRY_READ_ME. Go on I dare ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurf, you have been good till now.  Too many drinkies? :-)

Actually, my baby is, including 2 stepchildren I have raised from a tender age, Junior No 5.

And they all love me still, even the ones whose Mums are no longer my wife. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurf, you have been good till now.  Too many drinkies? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, my baby is, including 2 stepchildren I have raised from a tender age, Junior No 5.</p>
<p>And they all love me still, even the ones whose Mums are no longer my wife. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hurf Durf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurf Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luc has hundredz of lerning. He read a book by George Monbiot about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luc has hundredz of lerning. He read a book by George Monbiot about it.</p>
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