Comments on: HoS on Labour

By: workingman

workingman — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:01:46 +0000

Jules,

You need to read the question again.

“Ahhh I remember reading here that with the votes for Rodney in Epsom ACT actually did get more votes than NZ First….someone confirm that?”

From the link you provide it shows,

Party, Party Votes, Electorate Votes,
——– —————- ——————-
ACT 85,496 68,852
NZ First 95,356 38,813

So from this you can see that ACT got far more votes than NZ First in the Electorates. NZ First followed a bad strategy, Winston Peters as best I can make out only got about 9000 votes in Tauranga, not enough to win the seat, and they did not go hard enough to get the 5%, it was Winston or nothing. ACT put its effort into making sure that Rodney won Epsom and thus got extra seats.

By: starboard

starboard — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:20:13 +0000

..I wana go one step further..I want cullen and klark tried for gross mis-management , corruption and theft …

By: Rich Prick

Rich Prick — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:20:35 +0000

Feel sorry for Labour ?? … pass me a bucket. We have just rid ourselves of minge 1 & 2 to UN pastures, have had the first ever jailed for corruption, they never paid back the $800k they stole, gave us Green shite all over the floor and luved up Winston who still hasn’t paid back the $158k he nicked … and you feel sorry for these bastards! Never mind the lesser sins of these corrupt, lying, thieving crooked bastards that pass for Labour. I don’t feel sorry for them, I wish them out of opposition as well.

By: Seán

Seán — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:46:05 +0000

I actually feel a bit sorry for Labour over this. Normally this would be a one day story

Really? News vacuum or not, since when has it been that an MP lying to the media is a one day story??

By: Ross Miller

Ross Miller — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:48:36 +0000

Ok Jules … so just when are you bastards going to pay the money back?

By: Jules

Jules — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:55:00 +0000

“Don’t knock Jules … he is the living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.”

Forgive Ross, for using tired old colloquialisms, and believing the media hype without doing independent investigation.

By: Jules

Jules — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:48:48 +0000

“Ahhh I remember reading here that with the votes for Rodney in Epsom ACT actually did get more votes than NZ First….someone confirm that?”

NZF 95356 4.07%
ACT 85496 3.65%

http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2008/e9/html/e9_part1.html

By: Ross Miller

Ross Miller — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:41:00 +0000

Clint Heine said … “Ian Lees-Galloway???? Wasn’t he an Alliance MP??”

No, he’s just a slip of a lad. Comes from good stock though. His parents moved from Palmerston North to neighbouring Rangitiki just so they wouldn’t feel obliged to vote for him.

By: Hagues

Hagues — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:39:30 +0000

James “Ahhh dear…? Rodney is a fan of MMP.ACT is the only new party that came into Parliment under it….all others being split offs of existing ones. (Maori Party different due to racist seats obviously).”

Maori party is no different at all, that was a split from the Labour party as well!

By: Manolo

Manolo — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:54:12 +0000

“I actually feel a bit sorry for Labour over this.”

I don’t. The socialist crooks and thieves deserve every bit of bad news that come their way.
They almost broke the country, mismanaged it, squandered its wealth, and you feel sorry for them? Harden up, DPF.

By: Robert Winter

Robert Winter — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:25:40 +0000

What a lot of huffing and puffing. Mr Barker appears to have lied. He shouldn’t have and has been exposed for this. Not good and he joins one or two others in the Opposition parliamentary leadership who should be put out to pasture. As Mr De Cleene points out, his type of polling activity is done by others and the Speaker confirmed that there is no rule broken when interviewed on this issue. Presumably that defence, which works properly for Mr English and his housing circumstances, works for Labour on this. Sauce for the goose etc. It may not be a good look, but it’s not good for everyone who does. If we don’t like it, then someone should change the rules. The rest of HoS article is hyperbole.

By: scanner

scanner — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:47:06 +0000

As taxpayers we pay the wages and the, at times, exorbitant expenses of this bunch.
Do we get value for our money? it certainly doesn’t look like it, we get a prime minister that should have been charged with forgery, we get a govt prepared to break the law then change the law to legitimize what they did, we get an ex minister in jail for corruption, we get a cabinet minister addicted to air travel getting getting his fix at our expense, and now we get MPs prepared to lie, first to the voting public about their identity, then to the public again, through the media about it even having happened.
They need to remember that we put them where they are, it’s us that take them away.

By: Ross Miller

Ross Miller — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:14:05 +0000

Don’t knock Jules … he is the living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.

By: Inventory2

Inventory2 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:05:58 +0000

DPF – was it an oversight that you left out these comments about Darren Hughes, who is every bit as culpable IMHO?

“And that, unfortunately, is where Labour’s senior whip Darren Hughes – another former minister – has also disgraced himself.

Hughes is smart. But, like Barker, he has been found willing to insist that black is white if that is what the leadership expects of him. Hughes has fronted the media, insisting that Barker’s fraudulent poll was justifiable, allowing leader Phil Goff to duck for cover.

Barker has acted dishonestly.

Hughes has sacrificed principle for patsy-ism.”

By: James

James — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:17:20 +0000

Jules: “Let’s bring back Winston. What is needed right now is the missing centrist party that kept the left and right sensible.”

Oh please! RAOTFLMAO!

“More party votes than ACT, 90,000. Look at the destruction that the Yellow man is up to.”

Ahhh I remember reading here that with the votes for Rodney in Epsom ACT actually did get more votes than NZ First….someone confirm that? What ‘destruction”? Investigating wheather there are better ways to do things which may include giving people more choice? Oh the swine!

“Goodness me. Why do the blue folk not just amend the legislation, rather than waiting for a referrendum at the next election. I’ll tell you why, because having a fair MMP system is not in their interest- they could fix it right now if they were a mind to, and the only party that would be likely to object is the yellow one, and they could still have the referrendum at the next election.”

Ahhh dear…? Rodney is a fan of MMP.ACT is the only new party that came into Parliment under it….all others being split offs of existing ones. (Maori Party different due to racist seats obviously).

“And tell me prey, which is worse, a fake poll, or a pretend party political advertisement (for Ch 7).
The media just have to build it up to something it isn’t don’t they!
Anyhow, if you object to getting your Tarakihi fillets from China then you know what to do ”

I would like the choice of wheather I CAN buy my Tarakihi fillets from China if China is able to offer them to me.Same with a choice in water supplier,accident cover,education for my kids,healthcare etc etc…so piss off and pedel your envy ridden control freakery some place else Comrade.

By: ben

ben — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:45:43 +0000

Labour, it seems, has lost its moral compass.

Are you kidding, HoS?

Labour backs Winston’s corruption to the hilt, still hasn’t indicated they think Taito did anything wrong, passed the EFA which interfered with free speech in a way that openly benefited itself and nobiled its opponents, and then immediately voted against it at the first opportunity once in opposition, and was led by a woman at the center of Paintergate, speedgate (or whatever that ride through Canterbury was called), and who terrorised the public service.

And now Labour has lost their moral compass? Over this?? Are you f***ing kidding HoS?

By: Jules

Jules — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:33:40 +0000

Let’s bring back Winston. What is needed right now is the missing centrist party that kept the left and right sensible.
More party votes than ACT, 90,000. Look at the destruction that the Yellow man is up to. Goodness me. Why do the blue folk not just amend the legislation, rather than waiting for a referrendum at the next election. I’ll tell you why, because having a fair MMP system is not in their interest- they could fix it right now if they were a mind to, and the only party that would be likely to object is the yellow one, and they could still have the referrendum at the next election.
And tell me prey, which is worse, a fake poll, or a pretend party political advertisement (for Ch 7).
The media just have to build it up to something it isn’t don’t they!
Anyhow, if you object to getting your Tarakihi fillets from China then you know what to do

By: Johnboy

Johnboy — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:44:02 +0000

“Labour’s leader must now stand up and take responsibility for the deception that was conducted with funds entrusted to him by Parliament.”

Maybe Phil realise’s now why Clark and Cullen fucked off so fast and left a dipstick like him to carry the can. And he thought it was a promotion. What a dickhead.

By: Whaleoil

Whaleoil — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:36:18 +0000

Never trust anyone with a moustache or a double-barreled name

By: Murray

Murray — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:32:50 +0000

Not according to the honking big red shop front with Labour splashed all over it that I go past every day.