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		<title>By: Kris K</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-629625</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my November 8th, 2009 at 10:51 am comment:

&lt;b&gt;Is this thread being hijacked by Scouts New Zealand?&lt;/b&gt;

I&#039;ve just scrolled through all earlier comments.
ALL, except one, of the Scouts NZ supporters are &lt;b&gt;BRAND NEW&lt;/b&gt;, first time commenters here. I therefore suspect that Scouts NZ are attemting to highjack this thread in a bid to secure funds - shame on you!

Following is a list of the (8) commenters supporting Scouts - I have included their comment count:

• Dolphin52 (1)  9   4 [November 5th, 2009 at 11:31 am]
• Shirley Nott (1)  8   5 [November 5th, 2009 at 12:59 pm]
• kauri (3)  9   3 [November 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm]
• kauri (3)  7   3 [November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm]
• kauri (3)  9   3 [November 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm]
• pipnz (1)  6   1 [November 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm]
• Bleaks (1)  5   1 [November 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm]
• AngelaS (1)  5   1 [November 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am]
• whodinni (1)  3   1 [November 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm]
• tinytott (1)  0   1 [November 8th, 2009 at 7:35 pm]

PS The only non new commenter supporting Scouts also suggested two other organisation (Scouts, CanTeen, or Surf Aid) as possible worthy candidates:
rolla_fxgt (141) [November 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm]

I hope you see this DPF, and factor this in to your final decision.

Other regulars here may also have an opinion regarding this and feel inclined to comment accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my November 8th, 2009 at 10:51 am comment:</p>
<p><b>Is this thread being hijacked by Scouts New Zealand?</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just scrolled through all earlier comments.<br />
ALL, except one, of the Scouts NZ supporters are <b>BRAND NEW</b>, first time commenters here. I therefore suspect that Scouts NZ are attemting to highjack this thread in a bid to secure funds &#8211; shame on you!</p>
<p>Following is a list of the (8) commenters supporting Scouts &#8211; I have included their comment count:</p>
<p>• Dolphin52 (1)  9   4 [November 5th, 2009 at 11:31 am]<br />
• Shirley Nott (1)  8   5 [November 5th, 2009 at 12:59 pm]<br />
• kauri (3)  9   3 [November 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm]<br />
• kauri (3)  7   3 [November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm]<br />
• kauri (3)  9   3 [November 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm]<br />
• pipnz (1)  6   1 [November 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm]<br />
• Bleaks (1)  5   1 [November 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm]<br />
• AngelaS (1)  5   1 [November 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am]<br />
• whodinni (1)  3   1 [November 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm]<br />
• tinytott (1)  0   1 [November 8th, 2009 at 7:35 pm]</p>
<p>PS The only non new commenter supporting Scouts also suggested two other organisation (Scouts, CanTeen, or Surf Aid) as possible worthy candidates:<br />
rolla_fxgt (141) [November 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm]</p>
<p>I hope you see this DPF, and factor this in to your final decision.</p>
<p>Other regulars here may also have an opinion regarding this and feel inclined to comment accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: jabba</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-629395</link>
		<dc:creator>jabba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MichaelE .. I have noted the men&#039;s shed thing and may turn up and give it a go .. being a Waiuku bloke and all.
Kris K good call .. we all have our pet charities whatever. Scouts/Girl Guides/Brownies etc are good causes for charitable financial support .. I mentioned the Sallies and SPCA but then there are Surf Lifesaving, Westpac Helicopter and so on.
Where ever David puts his cash, it will be appreciated I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MichaelE .. I have noted the men&#8217;s shed thing and may turn up and give it a go .. being a Waiuku bloke and all.<br />
Kris K good call .. we all have our pet charities whatever. Scouts/Girl Guides/Brownies etc are good causes for charitable financial support .. I mentioned the Sallies and SPCA but then there are Surf Lifesaving, Westpac Helicopter and so on.<br />
Where ever David puts his cash, it will be appreciated I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: tinytott</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-629371</link>
		<dc:creator>tinytott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scouting needs your suport</description>
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		<title>By: Kris K</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-629225</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bleaks [November 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm],
AngelaS [November 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am],
whodinni [November 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm],

I think you guys may have missed the point.
Please re-read David Farrar&#039;s opening paragraph (quoted below):

&lt;blockquote&gt;As I blogged previously, in 2010, Kiwiblog is going to sponsor a charity, and I hope that the community that reads and comments here, will also get in behind a good cause. I see it as part of translating an online community into having a real world effect – like with the campaign against the Electoral Finance Act, but this time in a non political sphere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While I have nothing against Scouts NZ, the offer David made was extended to this community, and was not extended as a free for all to non members in their bid to gain funds for their (pet) organisation.

I may be totally out of line here - as you could be regular readers who don&#039;t comment, but the fact that three of you in a row are ALL new, and ALL support Scouts NZ, does give me cause to question your motives.

I apologise if I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bleaks [November 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm],<br />
AngelaS [November 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am],<br />
whodinni [November 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm],</p>
<p>I think you guys may have missed the point.<br />
Please re-read David Farrar&#8217;s opening paragraph (quoted below):</p>
<blockquote><p>As I blogged previously, in 2010, Kiwiblog is going to sponsor a charity, and I hope that the community that reads and comments here, will also get in behind a good cause. I see it as part of translating an online community into having a real world effect – like with the campaign against the Electoral Finance Act, but this time in a non political sphere.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I have nothing against Scouts NZ, the offer David made was extended to this community, and was not extended as a free for all to non members in their bid to gain funds for their (pet) organisation.</p>
<p>I may be totally out of line here &#8211; as you could be regular readers who don&#8217;t comment, but the fact that three of you in a row are ALL new, and ALL support Scouts NZ, does give me cause to question your motives.</p>
<p>I apologise if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: whodinni</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-629151</link>
		<dc:creator>whodinni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scouts NZ - we have been involved a number of years and enjoy every minute. It is open to both boys and girls of all abilities. It is run by volunteers. It is a great place to provide boys with positive male role models. It enables kids to experience the outdoors and to have fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scouts NZ &#8211; we have been involved a number of years and enjoy every minute. It is open to both boys and girls of all abilities. It is run by volunteers. It is a great place to provide boys with positive male role models. It enables kids to experience the outdoors and to have fun</p>
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		<title>By: AngelaS</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628983</link>
		<dc:creator>AngelaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCOUTS NZ- My family and I love Scouts.  It&#039;s full of action, teamwork and learning new skills.  In between the fun the kids learn to be responsible, caring citizens. We try to keep the memberships fees low so that anyone can join. Any assistance we get goes straight into youth programmes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCOUTS NZ- My family and I love Scouts.  It&#8217;s full of action, teamwork and learning new skills.  In between the fun the kids learn to be responsible, caring citizens. We try to keep the memberships fees low so that anyone can join. Any assistance we get goes straight into youth programmes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleaks</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628811</link>
		<dc:creator>Bleaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCOUTS NZ - a brilliant organisation that is changing the lives of thousands of New Zealand&#039;s youth with a huge team of volunteers, and they do this with an incredibly small budget.  Any assistance will improve the service and opportunities available for the young people of New Zealand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCOUTS NZ &#8211; a brilliant organisation that is changing the lives of thousands of New Zealand&#8217;s youth with a huge team of volunteers, and they do this with an incredibly small budget.  Any assistance will improve the service and opportunities available for the young people of New Zealand</p>
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		<title>By: Kris K</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628744</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &lt;b&gt;Big Buddy&lt;/b&gt;?

Most of us here are guys who are concerned about the wellbeing, and future of boys/men within our increasingly feminised society. Heck, we&#039;ve just been considering the reduction of males achieving bachelor degrees compared to women, and the fact that the primary and secondary school systems, having been feminised for the last thirty or so years, has likely been the primary contributer to this recent outcome.

Let&#039;s face it; boys and men are increasingly marginalised within our society. And men play a very minor part, if any, in the lives of most of our modern day children, especially boys. Big Buddy attempts to address this issue at the grass roots level.

http://www.bigbuddy.org.nz/

From their homepage:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Big Buddy mentoring is based on the simple philosophy that boys need good male role models in their lives to become good men. Unfortunately, many boys do not have a father or other male role model in their lives and while mothers do courageous work in raising their boys alone, they cannot model maleness. And above all else, boys learn through modelling.

A simple solution is to match these boys with a well-screened male mentor who can foster a relationship similar to that of say an uncle; a relationship we hope is for life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about <b>Big Buddy</b>?</p>
<p>Most of us here are guys who are concerned about the wellbeing, and future of boys/men within our increasingly feminised society. Heck, we&#8217;ve just been considering the reduction of males achieving bachelor degrees compared to women, and the fact that the primary and secondary school systems, having been feminised for the last thirty or so years, has likely been the primary contributer to this recent outcome.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it; boys and men are increasingly marginalised within our society. And men play a very minor part, if any, in the lives of most of our modern day children, especially boys. Big Buddy attempts to address this issue at the grass roots level.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bigbuddy.org.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bigbuddy.org.nz/</a></p>
<p>From their homepage:</p>
<blockquote><p>Big Buddy mentoring is based on the simple philosophy that boys need good male role models in their lives to become good men. Unfortunately, many boys do not have a father or other male role model in their lives and while mothers do courageous work in raising their boys alone, they cannot model maleness. And above all else, boys learn through modelling.</p>
<p>A simple solution is to match these boys with a well-screened male mentor who can foster a relationship similar to that of say an uncle; a relationship we hope is for life.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Richard Hurst</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628615</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donate to these guys:
http://www.vegetablecruelty.com/about/

Its time to liberate the carrot, free the cabbage and save the potato! ;)

But seriously: I vote NZ Cancer Society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donate to these guys:<br />
<a href="http://www.vegetablecruelty.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vegetablecruelty.com/about/</a></p>
<p>Its time to liberate the carrot, free the cabbage and save the potato! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But seriously: I vote NZ Cancer Society.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael E</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628610</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, here are a couple of lesser known organisations that are recent arrivals in NZ:

Mens Sheds - they are a great place for older blokes to hang out with other blokes doing manly things.  Keeps them active and keeps them in touch with agencies that can help with the health and welfare of older kiwi blokes.  http://menssheds.org.nz/

The Computer Clubhouse - an after school computer drop-in centre where teens learn how to use computers.  There is one in Otara, another is starting in Hamilton, and soon there will be one in Naenae. http://www.clubhouse274.org.nz/ for the Otara Clubhouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, here are a couple of lesser known organisations that are recent arrivals in NZ:</p>
<p>Mens Sheds &#8211; they are a great place for older blokes to hang out with other blokes doing manly things.  Keeps them active and keeps them in touch with agencies that can help with the health and welfare of older kiwi blokes.  <a href="http://menssheds.org.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://menssheds.org.nz/</a></p>
<p>The Computer Clubhouse &#8211; an after school computer drop-in centre where teens learn how to use computers.  There is one in Otara, another is starting in Hamilton, and soon there will be one in Naenae. <a href="http://www.clubhouse274.org.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.clubhouse274.org.nz/</a> for the Otara Clubhouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628587</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPCA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPCA!</p>
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		<title>By: John Ansell</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628585</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, what about this transformational course for teenagers? 

http://www.discoveryforteens.co.nz/

It doesn&#039;t get much support, but I can testify from my own kids&#039; experience it does an awful lot of good. 

Rather than be one of many sponsors of a standard charity, let&#039;s be the lead sponsor of a programme that allows kids (many of them quite troubled) to turn their lives around and realise their potential. 

Send some kids to Discovery who can&#039;t get there any other way - on the condition that they or their parents report in every so often on how their lives are going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, what about this transformational course for teenagers? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.discoveryforteens.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.discoveryforteens.co.nz/</a></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t get much support, but I can testify from my own kids&#8217; experience it does an awful lot of good. </p>
<p>Rather than be one of many sponsors of a standard charity, let&#8217;s be the lead sponsor of a programme that allows kids (many of them quite troubled) to turn their lives around and realise their potential. </p>
<p>Send some kids to Discovery who can&#8217;t get there any other way &#8211; on the condition that they or their parents report in every so often on how their lives are going.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar41</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628548</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar41</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Neurological Foundation of NZ. See www.neurological.org.nz   It&#039;s the main NZ charity dedicated to research into neurological disorders, the growth area of health problems we are all going to face. Alzheimer&#039;s can be the subject of lots of jokes but in fact it&#039;s not too funny for those affected - which is more and more of us as we get older. All donations to the NF go to research - the running costs are paid by endowments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Neurological Foundation of NZ. See <a href="http://www.neurological.org.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.neurological.org.nz</a>   It&#8217;s the main NZ charity dedicated to research into neurological disorders, the growth area of health problems we are all going to face. Alzheimer&#8217;s can be the subject of lots of jokes but in fact it&#8217;s not too funny for those affected &#8211; which is more and more of us as we get older. All donations to the NF go to research &#8211; the running costs are paid by endowments.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisiani</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628544</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisiani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Cross as 100% of donations to them go to the frontline.
The running costs of the organisation are internally raised by e.g first aid training courses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Cross as 100% of donations to them go to the frontline.<br />
The running costs of the organisation are internally raised by e.g first aid training courses</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola Rowe</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628541</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second CanTeen.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian  Harmer</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628540</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian  Harmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hospice New Zealand (rather than an individual local hospice)</description>
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		<title>By: Haiku Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628532</link>
		<dc:creator>Haiku Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice idea using
this forum to pimp your own
wares john and owen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice idea using<br />
this forum to pimp your own<br />
wares john and owen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Ansell</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628523</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 50 week course of electro-convulsive therapy for philu.

Just tell me how much I have to pay to be allowed to throw the switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 50 week course of electro-convulsive therapy for philu.</p>
<p>Just tell me how much I have to pay to be allowed to throw the switch.</p>
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		<title>By: pipnz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628493</link>
		<dc:creator>pipnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scouts NZ - a fantastic organisation that gives opportunity to all New Zealand boys and girls! It teaches our children how to be leaders and great citizens of New Zealand by having new and exciting adventures... what more could you want in an organisation!!

www.scouts.org.nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scouts NZ &#8211; a fantastic organisation that gives opportunity to all New Zealand boys and girls! It teaches our children how to be leaders and great citizens of New Zealand by having new and exciting adventures&#8230; what more could you want in an organisation!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scouts.org.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.scouts.org.nz</a></p>
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		<title>By: ernesto</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/nominate_a_charity_for_2010.html#comment-628492</link>
		<dc:creator>ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOBH</description>
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