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# Redbaiter (7813)
November 16th, 2009 at 10:28 am

The left’s attempts to shut down Glenn Beck have been a good illustration of the way they work.

False allegations of “racism” for example are a tool the left are always using, and they made such false allegations against Beck and managed to get many major sponsors to withdraw their support for his show.

So there we have another good example of the left’s operating model. The say they care about race, but their real motive is shutting down Glenn Beck.

“Glenn Beck must be stopped”- Kieth Olbermann.

Glenn Beck is a joke, and you’re the butt of it. You and anyone else who buys that teary-eyed truth-seeker crap. He puts the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH in Redbaiter, eh?

Well, that’s the point you see. Institutions that should be protesting these inhuman regulations and requirements are silent. The press has abandoned its traditional role and now sits in judgement with those who are the oppressors.

The greatest enforcers of political correctness are our media. Television, radio and newspapers, the very institutions who should be strongly opposed.

They even participate willingly in such odious examples of thought tyranny as “diversity training” courses and the like. If they are not against it, they are for it, and in being for it, they betray their profession.

Tell you what Ryan, I’ll withhdraw my allegations on the grounds that perhaps you were just too busy writing about other (more important) things to care about speech codes, and accept that your willingness to abide was not validation but rather enforced and involuntary acceptance.

I appreciate that, Red. It was less busy writing and more busy editing what other people had written and encouraging a group of volunteers to keep writing. I had very little time for writing myself.

I agree that the press is pretty tame.

Well, that’s the point you see. Institutions that should be protesting these inhuman regulations and requirements are silent. The press has abandoned its traditional role and now sits in judgement with those who are the oppressors.

The greatest enforcers of political correctness are our media. Television, radio and newspapers, the very institutions who should be strongly opposed.

They even participate willingly in such odious examples of thought tyranny as “diversity training” courses and the like. If they are not against it, they are for it, and in being for it, they betray their profession.

Tell you what Ryan, I’ll withhdraw my allegations on the grounds that perhaps you were just too busy writing about other (more important) things to care about speech codes, and accept that your willingness to abide was not validation but rather enforced and involuntary acceptance.

“Talking about fakery and deceit, who are you trying to impersonate Red?”

I have never altered the text of any poster I have ever quoted. Go away you repulsive POS.

Ryann, as editor of Craccum, you were in an excellent position to protest against University speech codes. Can you give me an example of when you did this. I do not believe you did, and this is tacit endorsement, for if anyone should be protesting for increased freedom it is the press.

Fair enough, Red. No, I don’t think I protested against university speech codes. I did get threatened with legal action for breaking them (publishing a racist letter to the editor) and wrote condemning the treatment of Jim Peron and David Irving (on freedom-of-speech grounds, not due to agreeing with anything they wrote or said).

What can I say, Red – it was a busy year. I could have done more, and I apologise for that.

I guess you’ll answer that with another vague unsubstantiated accusation.

Talking about fakery and deceit, who are you trying to impersonate Red?

Ryann, as editor of Craccum, you were in an excellent position to protest against University speech codes. Can you give me an example of when you did this? I do not believe you did, and this is tacit endorsement, for if anyone should be protesting for increased freedom it is the press.

Yes, I know its a joke on the surface, but its real intent is to absolve Ryann Sproull from any participation in or responsibility for the enforcement of speech codes on the University campus. In fact you were all for them.

And are you going to tell me when or how, or just leave it as a vague unsubstantiated accusation?

Its fakery deceit, impersonation and cowardice. Proving everything I have ever said about you to be perfectly correct. An odious unprincipled sneaking slithering creep. You do not ever alter and thereby misrepresent what other posters have written. If you have a skerrick of morality that is.

Yes, I know its a joke on the surface, but its real intent is to absolve Ryann Sproull from any participation in or responsibility for the enforcement of speech codes on the University campus. In fact you were all for them.

That’s what the Tea Parties are all about. They’re not anti-Democrat or anti-Republican, they are anti incumbent when Obama or anyone that doesn’t swear to the ideals of the far right conservatives is in or tries to get in.

It’s a joke too.

The left- all for freedom of speech as long as it is first approved by them.

“I know few students who think even once before speaking.”

That is a lie.

No, it’s a joke.

You enforced speech codes.

I don’t recall doing so. When?

That is a lie. You enforced speech codes.

Some people, and too many politicians.

That’s what the Tea Parties are all about. They’re not anti-Democrat or anti-Republican, they are anti incumbent, at last a rejection of the political framework thrust upon us over the last decades by political correctness and the Progressives in the broadcasting, political and academic arenas.

See how those who feel threatened use the same old tactics? The protestors are extremists (the favourite) or tin foil hat wearers, etc etc.

When they are not. They are just solid mainstream Americans at last speaking out against the crushing political weight of Progressivism, and most of all its repressive restrictions on political expression and freedom of speech.

They set the tone and mood whereby students must think three times before making any utterance, and this fear of offending establishes an inimidatory administrative framework that leftists exploit to the full in their obsession with dominating the political debate.

I know few students who think even once before speaking.

To me it depends in large part on the audience involved. If the statement is made on an audience highly unlikely to be incited, then it’s not incitement.

To shout fire in any crowded space is likely to cause panic, but to scream “kill the gays” at the nice tolerant folks attending the BDO will certainly offend, but not incite.

But if it were said at a Destiny Church Rally, well…

False allegations of “racism” for example are a tool the left are always using, and they made such false allegations against Beck and managed to get many major sponsors to withdraw their support for his show.

So there we have another good example of the left’s operating model. The say they care about race, but their real motive is shutting down Glenn Beck.

“Glenn Beck must be stopped”- Kieth Olbermann.

# Hoolian (211)
November 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am

Has anyone else noticed that the wikipedia entry looks very similar to Chauvel’s letter to Wilkinson?

The lyrics to one of his songs include: “I’m dreaming of a new Jamaica, come to execute all the gays”. In another, “Mi Nah Wallah”, he says he would like to cut the throats of all gay men. In “Bad Man Chi Chi Man” he instructs listeners to kill gay deejays, and in “Han Up Deh”, he advocates hanging lesbians, with a long piece of rope.

Hmm, seems that Chauvel was so passionate about this cause that he copied from Wiki. Probaby had never heard of the artist or the music before stumbling across it on Wiki.

I’m kinda proud, because I helped research and write that article when I was doing night shifts when I was at uni. He was stopped at Heathrow by police a few years ago, not because the government had intervened but because individuals and OutRage had complained to police that his lyrics constituted hate speech… the kind of which is a crime in Britain (But before y’all go off on one, it’s mostly been used against Muslim hate preachers, so don’t worry, it’s the right kind of prohibition you’re after).

http://www.petertatchell.net/popmusic/popmusicindex.htm

Elephant Man, Bounty Killer and Buju Banton and others came up against the same kind of stuff from Peter Tatchell and OutRage, but the agreements – broken, rescinded, reneged on, mended, whatever – tend to fall around the argument that if you want to play music that calls for the murder of a certain group, then that’s out of order. Which I’d agree with.

But they’ll sign any old crap to get themselves reinstated, and the the UK government won’t refuse entry to someone on those grounds, although they’ll ban Michael Savage. I suppose you’ve just got to vote with your feet or your wallet.

If someone wants to play, then that’s fine, let them in – I’d rather see them go through all the trouble of setting up a gig only to be told your views aren’t welcome here than give anyone the satisfaction of being stopped at the border on the say-so of an individual and shouting the discrimination line.