Comments on: Abbott new Liberal Leader

By: TCrwdb

TCrwdb — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:35:29 +0000

Gulag, that poll is as scientific as that which emanates from CRU/GISS/IPCC.

By: PaulL

PaulL — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:58:39 +0000

stephen: to be honest, I’m not sure it matters all that much – Australia’s a bloody big country. Apparently all the high level nuclear waste created to date by all the UK’s nuclear reactors would about fill a normal lounge room.

Then, of course, there’s the thorium fuel cycle: http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/features/print/348/new-age-nuclear?page=0%2C0

By: Gulag

Gulag — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:33:18 +0000

Poll in The Australian
Do you think Tony Abbott can unite the Liberal Party and lead it to the next election?

* Yes 43.15% (620 votes)
* No 51.36% (738 votes)
* Unsure 5.5% (79 votes)

Total votes: 1437

By: stephen

stephen — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:44:26 +0000

if they blend the waste with the dirt the originally dug it up from, the resultant product is about as radioactive as what they first dug up.

That’s a new one! Isn’t the waste product often a lot more potent? And i assume it’s a little more scientific than ‘put it in a giant blender then bung it underground’…

By: PaulL

PaulL — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:12:19 +0000

Jack5: agree. Fantastic option, and one overdue in Aus by my reckoning.

What Australia has lots of is sun-burnt land and uranium. (Actually, they have lots of coal too, but that’s not so useful in this discussion).

Nuclear is 65% of France’s power, it could be in Aus too. And all that land gives them somewhere to put the waste – if they blend the waste with the dirt the originally dug it up from, the resultant product is about as radioactive as what they first dug up. So they can just put it back where they found it.

Solar isn’t really economic yet, but when it is Australia has a lot of places to put solar units.

Lucky country indeed!!

By: Jack5

Jack5 — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:51:13 +0000

Liberal MPs are going to push Abbott to press for nuclear power as the way for clean green energy, plus of course Australia has the world’s biggest reserves of uranium (or are they the second biggest?).

Way to go!

Link:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/tony-abbott-facing-push-by-liberal-mps-to-consider-nuclear-energy-as-alternative-to-ets/story-e6frgczf-1225806030892

By: backster

backster — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:41:55 +0000

bChapman said “At least the National Party will be happy, though they aren’t then ones in the gun having rural seats. Its in the affluent urban seats (Melbourne and Sydney) where climate change and environmental issues are very big.

A similar situation in NZ where in the 05 Clark/Liabour redwash National still won all the rural seats and almost none of the Urban ones, yet National have endorsed the CLARK idiocy of including Agriculture, virtually ensuring the ruination of many of their most loyal supporters,(and the Nation). John KEY should show the same respect for his members as ABBOTT and hold a secret ballot to decide whether they believe in global warming or not.

By: Alistair Miller

Alistair Miller — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:15:49 +0000

This is the best possible outcome for the Lbs. They’ve been a basket case since the 2008 pasting, and because of Howard’s total lack of belief that he would ever leave the leadership other than in a box, he did no succession planning and there has thus been a total vacuum of leadership. Turnbull actually had some very good points, but he was fool to make ETS a leadership issue. The Lib/Nat coalition was always going to take a bath in the 2010/2011 election. This way, Abbott can drag the party room back to the right and can delay the vote on the ETS. He will definitely not be the Australian PM, and I suspect everyone (including him) knows it. He will get smashed by KRudd and will then step down or get rolled to make way for Joe Hockey. The next realistic chance the Coalition will have for electoral victory will be 2013/2014, and putting Hockey in before the 2010/2011 election will taint his chances in 2013/14. And the best thing of all in all this: NO ETS IN AUSTRALIA (at least for now).

By: dime

dime — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:04:56 +0000

LONDON (AP) – Britain’s University of East Anglia says the director of its prestigious Climatic Research Unit is stepping down pending an investigation into allegations that he overstated the case for man-made climate change.

hehe

By: redeye

redeye — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:56:20 +0000

Abbotts 7:30 report interview is here http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/02/2759158.htm

Plenty of amunition for Rudd I’d suggest.

Apparently Tony believes in global warming, just not enamoured with Labours method of attending to it. Even though it’s apparently almost identical to Howard’s (which Tony supported).

By: Manolo

Manolo — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:34:25 +0000

Talking about leaders, where is our “fearless” and “decisive” Prime Minister these days? Has anyone seen Neville Key lately?

By: Gulag

Gulag — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:32:39 +0000

Was there as much scrutiny of Rudd and his religion as there is of Abbot and his or are the rules different?

By: dime

dime — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:05:39 +0000

heh things must be getting bad. every where i look online, leftists are telling me “its over” “the science is settled”.

in terms of trade – you do need to be seen to be doing something about climate change “oh fuck yeah, we are gonna have an ETS” “oh no, its been delayed again by 2 years, we are getting one though”

sad thing is leftists, you cant keep a scam going long enough to trick the world into having a giant ETS or whatever other form of socialism you want.

there has been a huge change in NZ over the last 18 months. Back then we had a lot of demand for “eco-friendly” products. customers talking about their global footprint blah blah. its all died. no one talks about it anymore.

people in the modern world get bored quickly.

if you want change, ya need to take baby steps. con everyone, get em worked up, pass a small law. then start on the next commie thing you want to implement.

in 2020, “Global Warming aka man made climate change” will be forgotten. just like global cooling in the 70’s. socialists will find something even more wacky and new ways to try and tax us/redistribute wealth.

By: Adolf Fiinkensein

Adolf Fiinkensein — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:05:13 +0000

The CRU’s chief propagandist has been stood down pending an independent investigation. It’s getting better and better for the Abbott and the Libs. DPF’s famous last words might be “But the real winner is Kevin Rudd who will easily win re-election now I would say.”

Thanks God Costello gave the game away. Can you imagine the bill boards?

BTW I goofed on the Rudd reversal within one hour. Misread the article in question. The deferall by Rudd happened some months a go.

By: coge

coge — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:59:33 +0000

Abbott has made his own luck. Hence Rudd’s plane breaking down in DC, & having to spend an extra night over there. This give Abbott one more day in the media spotlight, to start getting his message across. Rudd will be aware of this & might even pop an artery over it.

By: side show bob

side show bob — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:44:06 +0000

So I guess the working tax group will be working all Christmas now that the Aussies have kicked their ETS in the guts. I bet Shonkey and his fallow travelers are spewing. No more tax cuts kids. Shonkey will now have to readjust his plans as he knows he will have to alter our ETS taxes as Aussie is no longer in the picture. I bet tax cuts are off till they figure out another way to fleece us to pay for tax cuts.

By: PaulL

PaulL — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:39:58 +0000

Abbot is doing well this morning. He’s very clearly shifting the debate from where the media like it (should we do something or shouldn’t we) to where he can get a lot of traction – what should we do.

He’s pointing out that the Australian ETS is a shambles, it pays off special interests, it kicks in before the rest of the world, it will destroy jobs and wealth.

Toad, all going well he’d align with the Greens on a carbon tax (same as National/ACT/Greens should have done in NZ) and then have a policy that would give Labour real trouble in an election.

By: Redbaiter

Redbaiter — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:12:30 +0000

Turnbull was a leftist who posed as a rightist. Posturing as an alternative to socialism whilst brazenly doing the work of the socialists. He had to go, as such traitors need to go all over the western world.

By: tvb

tvb — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:57:54 +0000

Joe Hockey did not want the Leadership – yet. So he stayed “loyal” backed climate change and forced a vote on the climate change issue. So the Liberals go into the election opposed to ETS to provide a clear contrast to Rudd. Abbott represents a clear contrast to Rudd on a number of other things as well. And Abbott has united the opposition. Not too bad at all. Rudd may be favorite to win but do not underestimate all those second Labour preferences going to Abbott – especially the conservative catholic vote. I predict a much closer contest than what appears now.

By: Hurf Durf

Hurf Durf — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:32:57 +0000

It is inconceivable that an Australian governing party would adopt a policy that would totally isolate Australia from the global political agenda,

Worldwide redistribution of wealth and the death of Western prosperity? That is a good thing.

Ladies and gentlemen, the loony left!