Despicable scum
The SST reports:
An HIV-positive man injected his wife with his own blood while she slept, infecting her with the virus that causes Aids.
It is believed the man wanted to give her the disease so she would start having sex with him again. She told police he also hoped it would prevent her from finding another man and leaving him.
That is probably the most selfish act I have come across for years. Sickening.
The man has been remanded in prison awaiting sentence for wilfully infecting another with a disease, an offence that carries a maximum 14 years’ imprisonment.
I know one can live for years with HIV, but I still think his actions come close to homicide, and a life sentence should be an available penalty.
In court documents, the woman, 33, described how her husband twice pricked her with a sewing needle laced with his infected blood as she slept and how she once caught him handling a syringe full of his blood.
It is bad enough to have unprotected sex with someone, if you are HIV+. But at least that is a lottery. To actually prick or inject someone with your infected blood, is just unforgivable and incomprehensible.
December 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
There seems to be a certain breed of male scum who will do anything to maintain control over their partner and to get their own way. Some (like Perez) use violence, a few take it as far as murder of their partners and families. This one comes close to that at least.
December 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
My guess is the atheist Dorker will soon show up, not that this has a lot to do with God. I would say this is a clear example of evil or the lack of God. I guess he does not believe in the evil either but surely there is not a better example of evil then a case like this. Just as there is a ying there is also a yang.
December 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Yes he is a despicable man.
The article says he was an immigrant, I wonder why we even let someone with AIDS into the country? I mean we turn others away on various health grounds, why isn’t AIDS one of those?
Secondly I wonder what his level of education is – although ethically you should understand this is depraved regardless of your education level, the fact he says he did it because he wanted his wife to start sleeping with him again, suggests he’s got a rather low grade education as well.
So again, why are we letting people like this into the country?
SSB, the fact you suggest the presence of evil is evidence of the lack of a G-d, suggests you haven’t really thought too closely about it. The answer to it, BTW, is free will. If you want to discuss further, suggest the GD thread?
December 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Actually side show bob, the guy was a Christian. To quote some of the bible bashers who live here: “he was using his God-given right as patriarch of the family. People believe he is guilty because they have been brainwashed by feminist communist teachers.”
How an arsehole like him proves the existence of God is beyond my understanding, but you keep kidding yourself ssb. Oh that’s right, God created AIDS to kill gays.
December 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Er, tristan, I’ve never read anything remotely equating to what you suggest “the bible bashers who live here” have said, so care to provide a link?
Secondly, SSB wasn’t suggesting “an arsehole like him [proved] the existence of G-d,” quite the opposite in fact.
Er…
December 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
tristanb: You claim to quote rather than be providing a your summary of another’s view, so which ‘bible bashers’ said that, and when? It certainly seems to contradict the Christian expectation that a father is meant to help provide the necessities of life and protection for their family.
As to the man being scum, can he be charged with murder when the woman dies?
December 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Can only be charged if the woman dies within a year and a day of the act causing death Grant.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
tristanb – you appear angry, confused and more than slightly bigoted. Those attributes are as poisonous to the mind as HIV is to the body… but fortunately more treatable. Get help.
Back on topic, I agree with DPF – this amounts to an intent to kill and should be prosecuted as such.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Oh God (excuse the pun) it’s degenerating into another thread on religiion. There are plenty of sites on which atheists can debate Christians, does every second Kiwiblog thread have to collpase into barely relevant theological warfare?!
Meanwhile we lose sight of the most serious question which isn’t how long this reprehensible filth should get but, as reid so aptly points out:
Why indeed. Precisely what was he deemed to be bringing to this country which outweighed the additional cost to the nation of providing education, health etc for his entire family plus the expensive medical care he is highly likely to require in future?
December 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
A grateful vote perhaps?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Just stop subsidising the scum’s medicine.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Reid, I think you would have to ask Lianne Dalziel, the Minister of Immigration at the time who changed the legislation to allow HIV+ people to immigrant here. You could also ask Helen Clark and her homosexual rights lobbyist husband Peter Davis. In his book, “Intimate Details & Vital Statistics” he gets people to contribute a chapter or so each. I quote his mate Ron Paterson below.
“Regrettably, Parliament did not see fit to subject government activities to the same code of behaviour, at least for the time being. Section 151(2), which expires on 31 December 1999, states that ‘[e]xcept as otherwise expressly provided in [the Human Rights Act], nothing in this Act relating to [s 21(1) prohibited grounds of discrimination (h)-(m)1 shall affect anything done by or on behalf of the Government of New Zealand’. It is to be hoped that this exemption not be read as protecting a crown health enterprise which sought to discriminate in its provision of services to HIV-positive people (Paterson & Rishworth, 1996: 37-56). Section 153(3)(a) officially exempts any government policy or administrative practice relating to immigration from the requirements of the Act. This would allow the Immigration Service to introduce mandatory HIV testing, and to refuse entry to those who test positive, ‘without fear of falling foul of the Human Rights Act. Both these provisions are lamentable and should be repealed at the earliest opportunity.”
BTW- Ron Paterson is our Health and Disability Commissioner. Should his first prority not be the health of the New Zealand public rather than potential immigrants who could infect New Zealanders with a deadly virus?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Thanks for that Chuck.
This is making me think that another application of YIMBY is required.
For a long time I’ve advocated that if a parole board wants to release a “reformed” crim, they and their families should be required to have the crim live next door to them. It goes on a scale, the very worst “reformed” crims next door to the board members themselves, then so on through a reducing scale as the board member’s children and grandchildren gradually find their immediate neighbours become populated with more and more “reformed” crims their parents and grandparents have seen fit to release.
Only when all vacancies have been filled do the crims move onto more usual dwellings.
This should be no problem of course because the Parole Boards apparently carefully assess these crims and I see no harm in having a personal consequence should an error arise. I rather think it might focus the mind and increase the attention span of the Parole Boards and that must be a good thing.
Same principle here.
The sickest most at-risk individuals get to live next door to the Immigration Minister, the H & D Commissioner, etc etc down the line.
After the first few unfortunate “accidents” I think the loopholes would be closed.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Anyone else noticed the amount of serious crime committed by Somalian refugees in this country?
December 6th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
A couple of medical issues:
1. A needle-stick injury is not 100% certain to convey HIV infection. A lot depends upon the type of needle which is used. A hollow needle (i.e the sort used in injections or blood tests) is associated with a much greater risk since it carries blood inside it, whereas a solid needle, such as a sewing needle, has less risk of infection.
2. If you are ever pricked by a needle by someone you suspect is HIV +ve, you can get emergency immunoglobulin, which can reduce the chance of infection. But get onto it straight away, this is an emergency. Go straight to hospital.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
# Gravyman62 Says:
Anyone else noticed the amount of serious crime committed by Somalian refugees in this country?
I recall another HIV case but on balance is there a significant degree of crime? I think the behaviour of migrants and refugees reflects the societies they come from [Black hawk down - General Aideed etc]. I wonder what some of those rich Chinese immigrants the govt. is so keen on have been up to?
December 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Are you talking about the number of sexual assaults on women by taxi drivers in Wellington region in the last ten years by any chance?
Try living in Lower Hutt between the different clans that are present here. I have forgotten how many times I have seen two different lots of women going at it hammer and tongs on the street. Strangely enough I have never seen the men fighting. The last time I was so sick of it I pulled over and got between them forced them apart. They were fighting practically on my street. When the cops showed up they just rolled their eyes and said “oh no, not again’.
They also have their monthly whip around for cash which is taken to the local ANZ that does Western Union wire transfers and sent back to Somalia. That is benefit money going to rellies in Somalia who are likely paying their tithe to their clan warlords. Or now probably to that el-Shabbab (or whatever they are called) Al Queda outfit that is running half the place.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Labour filling the west auckland electorates with compliant voting third world immigrants is the gift that will keep on giving for generations to come
December 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Is there any indication of the immigrant country of origin? The SMH article mentions ‘refugee services’ but otherwise no identifiable race. Someone mentioned Somalia?