Anyone else noticed the amount of serious crime committed by Somalian refugees in this country?

Are you talking about the number of sexual assaults on women by taxi drivers in Wellington region in the last ten years by any chance?

Try living in Lower Hutt between the different clans that are present here. I have forgotten how many times I have seen two different lots of women going at it hammer and tongs on the street. Strangely enough I have never seen the men fighting. The last time I was so sick of it I pulled over and got between them forced them apart. They were fighting practically on my street. When the cops showed up they just rolled their eyes and said “oh no, not again’.

They also have their monthly whip around for cash which is taken to the local ANZ that does Western Union wire transfers and sent back to Somalia. That is benefit money going to rellies in Somalia who are likely paying their tithe to their clan warlords. Or now probably to that el-Shabbab (or whatever they are called) Al Queda outfit that is running half the place.

I recall another HIV case but on balance is there a significant degree of crime? I think the behaviour of migrants and refugees reflects the societies they come from [Black hawk down - General Aideed etc]. I wonder what some of those rich Chinese immigrants the govt. is so keen on have been up to?

1. A needle-stick injury is not 100% certain to convey HIV infection. A lot depends upon the type of needle which is used. A hollow needle (i.e the sort used in injections or blood tests) is associated with a much greater risk since it carries blood inside it, whereas a solid needle, such as a sewing needle, has less risk of infection.

2. If you are ever pricked by a needle by someone you suspect is HIV +ve, you can get emergency immunoglobulin, which can reduce the chance of infection. But get onto it straight away, this is an emergency. Go straight to hospital.

This is making me think that another application of YIMBY is required.

For a long time I’ve advocated that if a parole board wants to release a “reformed” crim, they and their families should be required to have the crim live next door to them. It goes on a scale, the very worst “reformed” crims next door to the board members themselves, then so on through a reducing scale as the board member’s children and grandchildren gradually find their immediate neighbours become populated with more and more “reformed” crims their parents and grandparents have seen fit to release.

Only when all vacancies have been filled do the crims move onto more usual dwellings.

This should be no problem of course because the Parole Boards apparently carefully assess these crims and I see no harm in having a personal consequence should an error arise. I rather think it might focus the mind and increase the attention span of the Parole Boards and that must be a good thing.

Same principle here.

The sickest most at-risk individuals get to live next door to the Immigration Minister, the H & D Commissioner, etc etc down the line.

After the first few unfortunate “accidents” I think the loopholes would be closed.

The article says he was an immigrant, I wonder why we even let someone with AIDS into the country?

Reid, I think you would have to ask Lianne Dalziel, the Minister of Immigration at the time who changed the legislation to allow HIV+ people to immigrant here. You could also ask Helen Clark and her homosexual rights lobbyist husband Peter Davis. In his book, “Intimate Details & Vital Statistics” he gets people to contribute a chapter or so each. I quote his mate Ron Paterson below.

“Regrettably, Parliament did not see fit to subject government activities to the same code of behaviour, at least for the time being. Section 151(2), which expires on 31 December 1999, states that ‘[e]xcept as otherwise expressly provided in [the Human Rights Act], nothing in this Act relating to [s 21(1) prohibited grounds of discrimination (h)-(m)1 shall affect anything done by or on behalf of the Government of New Zealand’. It is to be hoped that this exemption not be read as protecting a crown health enterprise which sought to discriminate in its provision of services to HIV-positive people (Paterson & Rishworth, 1996: 37-56). Section 153(3)(a) officially exempts any government policy or administrative practice relating to immigration from the requirements of the Act. This would allow the Immigration Service to introduce mandatory HIV testing, and to refuse entry to those who test positive, ‘without fear of falling foul of the Human Rights Act. Both these provisions are lamentable and should be repealed at the earliest opportunity.”

BTW- Ron Paterson is our Health and Disability Commissioner. Should his first prority not be the health of the New Zealand public rather than potential immigrants who could infect New Zealanders with a deadly virus?

The man has been remanded in prison awaiting sentence for wilfully infecting another with a disease, an offence that carries a maximum 14 years’ imprisonment.

Just stop subsidising the scum’s medicine.

Precisely what was he deemed to be bringing to this country

A grateful vote perhaps?

Meanwhile we lose sight of the most serious question which isn’t how long this reprehensible filth should get but, as reid so aptly points out:

The article says he was an immigrant, I wonder why we even let someone with AIDS into the country? I mean we turn others away on various health grounds, why isn’t AIDS one of those?

Why indeed. Precisely what was he deemed to be bringing to this country which outweighed the additional cost to the nation of providing education, health etc for his entire family plus the expensive medical care he is highly likely to require in future?

Back on topic, I agree with DPF – this amounts to an intent to kill and should be prosecuted as such.

As to the man being scum, can he be charged with murder when the woman dies?

To quote some of the bible bashers who live here: “he was using his God-given right as patriarch of the family. People believe he is guilty because they have been brainwashed by feminist communist teachers.”

Er, tristan, I’ve never read anything remotely equating to what you suggest “the bible bashers who live here” have said, so care to provide a link?

Secondly, SSB wasn’t suggesting “an arsehole like him [proved] the existence of G-d,” quite the opposite in fact.

Er…

How an arsehole like him proves the existence of God is beyond my understanding, but you keep kidding yourself ssb. Oh that’s right, God created AIDS to kill gays.

The article says he was an immigrant, I wonder why we even let someone with AIDS into the country? I mean we turn others away on various health grounds, why isn’t AIDS one of those?

Secondly I wonder what his level of education is – although ethically you should understand this is depraved regardless of your education level, the fact he says he did it because he wanted his wife to start sleeping with him again, suggests he’s got a rather low grade education as well.

So again, why are we letting people like this into the country?

SSB, the fact you suggest the presence of evil is evidence of the lack of a G-d, suggests you haven’t really thought too closely about it. The answer to it, BTW, is free will. If you want to discuss further, suggest the GD thread?