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	<title>Comments on: Editorials on National Standards</title>
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		<title>By: Max Call</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643228</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Call</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if reports confuse you or if you don&#039;t wish to talk to teachers - ask your child.
if they say they don&#039;t know they are fibbing or are &#039;limited&#039;
children know if they are in the &#039;top&#039; group or &#039;third&#039; group or whatever (no matter what their teachers call the groups).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if reports confuse you or if you don&#8217;t wish to talk to teachers &#8211; ask your child.<br />
if they say they don&#8217;t know they are fibbing or are &#8216;limited&#8217;<br />
children know if they are in the &#8216;top&#8217; group or &#8216;third&#8217; group or whatever (no matter what their teachers call the groups).</p>
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		<title>By: stayathomemum</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643148</link>
		<dc:creator>stayathomemum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The teachers job is to teach children, not to waste their (precious) time teaching parents how to interpret the way...............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The teachers job is to teach children, not to waste their (precious) time teaching parents how to interpret the way&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643144</link>
		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I just wish the report would give me a clue whether I need to visit the teacher or not.&#039;

So, you are happy to spend time moaning on a blog site about your child&#039;s reports not being clear but will only take the 1/2 hour or so that it takes to visit the teacher if you &#039;need&#039; to.

My guess is you &#039;need&#039; to, there is no way an A-E or 1-5 on a report could ever give you a complete picture of your child&#039;s progress (or lack of) at his or her school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I just wish the report would give me a clue whether I need to visit the teacher or not.&#8217;</p>
<p>So, you are happy to spend time moaning on a blog site about your child&#8217;s reports not being clear but will only take the 1/2 hour or so that it takes to visit the teacher if you &#8216;need&#8217; to.</p>
<p>My guess is you &#8216;need&#8217; to, there is no way an A-E or 1-5 on a report could ever give you a complete picture of your child&#8217;s progress (or lack of) at his or her school.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643130</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you Max Call for pointing out my &quot;duty as a parent to get actively involved in my children&#039;s education&quot;.

I would suggest it is the duty of the school to give simple reports that we can understand so we know whether a child is failing or doing well. Is that too much to ask?

Unlike some here I do not want or expect to have to master the intricacies of many assessment systems in different schools in different subjects. I honestly do not care that much about the education system for the systems sake.

So let&#039;s just keep it simple. Give them A-E or 1-5 for each subject. Not multiple grades for one subject. Take out all the jargon.

And yes I am happy to visit the school to actively engage in my children&#039;s education. I just wish the report would give me a clue whether I need to visit the teacher or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you Max Call for pointing out my &#8220;duty as a parent to get actively involved in my children&#8217;s education&#8221;.</p>
<p>I would suggest it is the duty of the school to give simple reports that we can understand so we know whether a child is failing or doing well. Is that too much to ask?</p>
<p>Unlike some here I do not want or expect to have to master the intricacies of many assessment systems in different schools in different subjects. I honestly do not care that much about the education system for the systems sake.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s just keep it simple. Give them A-E or 1-5 for each subject. Not multiple grades for one subject. Take out all the jargon.</p>
<p>And yes I am happy to visit the school to actively engage in my children&#8217;s education. I just wish the report would give me a clue whether I need to visit the teacher or not.</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643087</link>
		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If some schools are doing better with exactly the same funding how come picking up their ideas, methods and standards won’t improve matters without spending any more money?

It might, there is alway room for improvement, but I doubt there are two schools in New Zealand that are identical, each has there own problems and special issues.  

I would hope that any comparison between schools is used by the government to help and support the &#039;underperforming&#039; schools and not just as a big stick.  Unfortunately with Tolley as minister I don&#039;t have much confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If some schools are doing better with exactly the same funding how come picking up their ideas, methods and standards won’t improve matters without spending any more money?</p>
<p>It might, there is alway room for improvement, but I doubt there are two schools in New Zealand that are identical, each has there own problems and special issues.  </p>
<p>I would hope that any comparison between schools is used by the government to help and support the &#8216;underperforming&#8217; schools and not just as a big stick.  Unfortunately with Tolley as minister I don&#8217;t have much confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643060</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All so they can say ‘if xyz school is doing so well why can’t you’? Until extra funding and resources are provided I can’t see how national standards can improve things.&quot;

Pardon?  If some schools are doing better with exactly the same funding how come picking up their ideas, methods and standards won&#039;t improve matters without spending any more money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All so they can say ‘if xyz school is doing so well why can’t you’? Until extra funding and resources are provided I can’t see how national standards can improve things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pardon?  If some schools are doing better with exactly the same funding how come picking up their ideas, methods and standards won&#8217;t improve matters without spending any more money?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Call</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643059</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Call</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott (and others)
go and ask the teachers.

You don&#039;t have to wait until parent interviews either. Whenever I go to my girls schools to talk to their teachers it has never been a problem.  You can also get the teachers email address if you find it difficult to get to school. This also works well with high schools (where students will have many teachers). 
You need to actively engage yourself in your children&#039;s education - it is your duty as a parent.

Also A = Achieved, M = Merit and E = Excellence - go here
http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/ncea/for-parents/index.html
to learn more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott (and others)<br />
go and ask the teachers.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to wait until parent interviews either. Whenever I go to my girls schools to talk to their teachers it has never been a problem.  You can also get the teachers email address if you find it difficult to get to school. This also works well with high schools (where students will have many teachers).<br />
You need to actively engage yourself in your children&#8217;s education &#8211; it is your duty as a parent.</p>
<p>Also A = Achieved, M = Merit and E = Excellence &#8211; go here<br />
<a href="http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/ncea/for-parents/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/ncea/for-parents/index.html</a><br />
to learn more.</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643057</link>
		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be right, however I think the whole purpose of national standards is to add another layer of bureaucracy which the government can then use as a big stick to target certain schools.

All so they can say &#039;if  xyz school is doing so well why can&#039;t you&#039;?

Until extra funding and resources are provided I can&#039;t see how national standards can improve things.  

By &#039;targeting&#039; what you are suggesting is taking resources from schools that are doing well and allocating them to schools that aren&#039;t, hard to see from a National government that thinks it&#039;s OK to give private schools (who already achieve highly) an extra $25 million a year and then shuts Aorangi Primary here in Christchurch (John Key&#039;s former primary school).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be right, however I think the whole purpose of national standards is to add another layer of bureaucracy which the government can then use as a big stick to target certain schools.</p>
<p>All so they can say &#8216;if  xyz school is doing so well why can&#8217;t you&#8217;?</p>
<p>Until extra funding and resources are provided I can&#8217;t see how national standards can improve things.  </p>
<p>By &#8216;targeting&#8217; what you are suggesting is taking resources from schools that are doing well and allocating them to schools that aren&#8217;t, hard to see from a National government that thinks it&#8217;s OK to give private schools (who already achieve highly) an extra $25 million a year and then shuts Aorangi Primary here in Christchurch (John Key&#8217;s former primary school).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643056</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You know Scott you could always go and have a chat with your child’s teacher, that’s a great way to cut through the ‘clutter’.&quot;

Well yes I could. But then what the heck is the point of having a report? Is it too much to ask to have a simple report, with simple standards, that tell me as a parent whether my child is doing well or poorly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You know Scott you could always go and have a chat with your child’s teacher, that’s a great way to cut through the ‘clutter’.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well yes I could. But then what the heck is the point of having a report? Is it too much to ask to have a simple report, with simple standards, that tell me as a parent whether my child is doing well or poorly?</p>
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		<title>By: stayathomemum</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643054</link>
		<dc:creator>stayathomemum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not assuming remedial activity is not currently undertaken (perhaps you should stop the assuming!).  Don&#039;t you think by measuring where the bottom 20% lie at a national level, then resources can be allocated better?  For instance, the bottom 20% of a poor school may include only a fraction of those children requiring attention, and the bottom 20% of a top school may all be achieving adequately.  I believe Standards will enable better targeting of remedial action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not assuming remedial activity is not currently undertaken (perhaps you should stop the assuming!).  Don&#8217;t you think by measuring where the bottom 20% lie at a national level, then resources can be allocated better?  For instance, the bottom 20% of a poor school may include only a fraction of those children requiring attention, and the bottom 20% of a top school may all be achieving adequately.  I believe Standards will enable better targeting of remedial action.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643046</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you could just go and ask and most teachers could tell you straight away which pupils are &quot;below the standard&quot; and would benefit from remedial action - if there were sufficient resources that weren&#039;t going in to testing standards.

National standards may reassure parents that give a damn but will they just continue to damn those who don&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you could just go and ask and most teachers could tell you straight away which pupils are &#8220;below the standard&#8221; and would benefit from remedial action &#8211; if there were sufficient resources that weren&#8217;t going in to testing standards.</p>
<p>National standards may reassure parents that give a damn but will they just continue to damn those who don&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643045</link>
		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stayathomemum - you are assuming that things like remedial reading are not happening now and teachers don&#039;t currently identify the below standard children, that is simply not the case. If you had concerns about the school your children are attending you could contact them and I am sure they would be happy to discuss their current assessment and remedial reading programs.

National standards might have a positive outcome if the government also increased the resources available to assist the bottom 20%, I am not aware they have done this.  All national standards is going to do is increase the paper work a teacher/school has to do and that leaves less time and resources available to actually teach the children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stayathomemum &#8211; you are assuming that things like remedial reading are not happening now and teachers don&#8217;t currently identify the below standard children, that is simply not the case. If you had concerns about the school your children are attending you could contact them and I am sure they would be happy to discuss their current assessment and remedial reading programs.</p>
<p>National standards might have a positive outcome if the government also increased the resources available to assist the bottom 20%, I am not aware they have done this.  All national standards is going to do is increase the paper work a teacher/school has to do and that leaves less time and resources available to actually teach the children.</p>
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		<title>By: stayathomemum</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643042</link>
		<dc:creator>stayathomemum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YesWeDid - I have not said it will &quot;magically fix&quot; the problem.  I understand the National Standards will be a measure of our children&#039;s learning on a nationwide level.  There appears to be no consistent measure currently taken, with schools varying widely in their methods. 
Just like if you want 1/2 a cup of flour in your baking, you measure it accurately for best results.  You could always go by eye of course - and have a varying success rate.
Once the state of our nations education is assessed, and those children labelled &quot;well below the standard&quot; are identified, action can be taken to improve their learning.  Things like remedial reading, etc.  Currently these children are unidentified at a national level - and probably lie in that 20%.
If my child was labelled &quot;well below the standard&quot;, I would like to know, so I could take remedial action.  
If I was a teacher and my pupil was labelled &quot;well below the standard&quot; I would like to know, so I could take remedial action.   
If I was Minister of Education and kiwi kids were labelled &quot;well below the standard&quot; I would like to know, so I could take remedial action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YesWeDid &#8211; I have not said it will &#8220;magically fix&#8221; the problem.  I understand the National Standards will be a measure of our children&#8217;s learning on a nationwide level.  There appears to be no consistent measure currently taken, with schools varying widely in their methods.<br />
Just like if you want 1/2 a cup of flour in your baking, you measure it accurately for best results.  You could always go by eye of course &#8211; and have a varying success rate.<br />
Once the state of our nations education is assessed, and those children labelled &#8220;well below the standard&#8221; are identified, action can be taken to improve their learning.  Things like remedial reading, etc.  Currently these children are unidentified at a national level &#8211; and probably lie in that 20%.<br />
If my child was labelled &#8220;well below the standard&#8221;, I would like to know, so I could take remedial action.<br />
If I was a teacher and my pupil was labelled &#8220;well below the standard&#8221; I would like to know, so I could take remedial action.<br />
If I was Minister of Education and kiwi kids were labelled &#8220;well below the standard&#8221; I would like to know, so I could take remedial action.</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643036</link>
		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Sonny so your approach is to kick kids out of school if they don&#039;t improve?  I can&#039;t see how that improves the 20% illiteracy problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Sonny so your approach is to kick kids out of school if they don&#8217;t improve?  I can&#8217;t see how that improves the 20% illiteracy problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny Blount</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643030</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny Blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; stayathomemum – perhaps you could explain how labeling children as ‘well below the standard’ will magically fix the 20% illiteracy problem. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It works at work. They get 3 &#039;well below standards&#039; then a &#039;don&#039;t come monday&#039;, most people get &#039;above the standard&#039; after 1 or 2 &#039;well belows&#039;, there is something about consequences that seems to motivate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> stayathomemum – perhaps you could explain how labeling children as ‘well below the standard’ will magically fix the 20% illiteracy problem. </p></blockquote>
<p>It works at work. They get 3 &#8216;well below standards&#8217; then a &#8216;don&#8217;t come monday&#8217;, most people get &#8216;above the standard&#8217; after 1 or 2 &#8216;well belows&#8217;, there is something about consequences that seems to motivate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny Blount</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643029</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny Blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; You know Scott you could always go and have a chat with your child’s teacher, that’s a great way to cut through the ‘clutter’. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And what will the teacher say?

Little Johnny is grade A at reading, grade B at writing, and C at arithmetic. Why not just put it on a piece of paper for posterity? Then the kid can show gramps and granny rather than send them down to talk to the teacher also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> You know Scott you could always go and have a chat with your child’s teacher, that’s a great way to cut through the ‘clutter’. </p></blockquote>
<p>And what will the teacher say?</p>
<p>Little Johnny is grade A at reading, grade B at writing, and C at arithmetic. Why not just put it on a piece of paper for posterity? Then the kid can show gramps and granny rather than send them down to talk to the teacher also.</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
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		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stayathomemum - perhaps you could explain how labeling children as &#039;well below the standard&#039; will magically fix the 20% illiteracy problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stayathomemum &#8211; perhaps you could explain how labeling children as &#8216;well below the standard&#8217; will magically fix the 20% illiteracy problem.</p>
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		<title>By: stayathomemum</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643021</link>
		<dc:creator>stayathomemum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I welcome the introduction of National Standards also - even more so now I have read last weeks primary school newsletter.  One page of the four page newsletter was devoted to influencing parents that National Standards were a bad thing.  Some excerpts:

&quot;the standards system assumes the children are failing if they do not meet the standard for their age, rather than reflecting the progress each child is making.  This will lead to repeated labelling of many young children as failures, resulting in them turning off learning and achieving&quot;
&quot;the opportunity to engage children in learning that is meaningful to them and relevant to their local situation may be lost with a national &quot;one size fits all&quot; approach&quot;

What a load of codswallop.  All this philosophy leads to is a lowering of standards overall - exactly the problem we have at the moment with 20% illiteracy.  Exactly the problem National Standards is aimed at fixing.

Coming on the back of a school sports day where there were no winners or losers at any event, and where trying hard was optional, I am relieved my child is attending a new school next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome the introduction of National Standards also &#8211; even more so now I have read last weeks primary school newsletter.  One page of the four page newsletter was devoted to influencing parents that National Standards were a bad thing.  Some excerpts:</p>
<p>&#8220;the standards system assumes the children are failing if they do not meet the standard for their age, rather than reflecting the progress each child is making.  This will lead to repeated labelling of many young children as failures, resulting in them turning off learning and achieving&#8221;<br />
&#8220;the opportunity to engage children in learning that is meaningful to them and relevant to their local situation may be lost with a national &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; approach&#8221;</p>
<p>What a load of codswallop.  All this philosophy leads to is a lowering of standards overall &#8211; exactly the problem we have at the moment with 20% illiteracy.  Exactly the problem National Standards is aimed at fixing.</p>
<p>Coming on the back of a school sports day where there were no winners or losers at any event, and where trying hard was optional, I am relieved my child is attending a new school next year.</p>
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		<title>By: YesWeDid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643020</link>
		<dc:creator>YesWeDid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Scott you could always go and have a chat with your child&#039;s teacher, that&#039;s a great way to cut through the &#039;clutter&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Scott you could always go and have a chat with your child&#8217;s teacher, that&#8217;s a great way to cut through the &#8216;clutter&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/editorials_on_national_standards.html#comment-643000</link>
		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Anne Tolley is that she cherry-picks the advice that suits her agenda. This isn&#039;t a trait that&#039;s exclusive to her of course, but its problematic for her because she doesn&#039;t have much of a grasp of the education portfolio and she should be listening to as much advice as she can get.
Remember when John Hattie said things like class size has minimal effect on learning, it&#039;s the quality of teaching that counts. Tolley saw dollar signs and an opportunity to sock it to the teachers, so Hattie was hailed as the new educational messiah. (Hattie also said homework has minimal effect too but that part was ignored). Now Hattie has come out saying the National standards could have a dangerous impact on student achievement and suddenly he is an ignorant fool in the eyes of Tolley.
She really needs to listen more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Anne Tolley is that she cherry-picks the advice that suits her agenda. This isn&#8217;t a trait that&#8217;s exclusive to her of course, but its problematic for her because she doesn&#8217;t have much of a grasp of the education portfolio and she should be listening to as much advice as she can get.<br />
Remember when John Hattie said things like class size has minimal effect on learning, it&#8217;s the quality of teaching that counts. Tolley saw dollar signs and an opportunity to sock it to the teachers, so Hattie was hailed as the new educational messiah. (Hattie also said homework has minimal effect too but that part was ignored). Now Hattie has come out saying the National standards could have a dangerous impact on student achievement and suddenly he is an ignorant fool in the eyes of Tolley.<br />
She really needs to listen more.</p>
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