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December 26, 2009 10:15am by David Farrar

General Debate Boxing Day 2009

Did you know the US doesn’t have Boxing Day as a holiday?

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Ryan Sproull

Are supermarkets open today?
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December 26, 2009 10:19am
side show bob

Oh my poor head, I knew those margaritas were a stupid idea.
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December 26, 2009 10:26am
Whaleoil

Neither do we today, Boxing Day holiday is actually on Monday this year……an anachronism from the past….in the modern world Saturday is just another day, time for the holiday to fall on the actual date of the holiday not carry over.
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December 26, 2009 10:39am
billyborker

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Yeah, just one more day, lazing around in bed, thinking up new ways to avoid work and con more cash out of insurance companies. Is there a difference between a dole bludger, a sickness beneficiary and an insurance bludger?

[DPF: 20 demerits. Launching personal attacks not welcome here]
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December 26, 2009 10:42am
Adolf Fiinkensein

Aaaaah. The pleasure of Christmas, eh Billy? The season for goodwill, joy and forgiveness.

Well done.

What do you do on ‘hate the world day’ May 1st?
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December 26, 2009 10:50am
Michael E

Boxing day is also not a holiday in South Australia, however Proclaimation day (the 27th) is.

P.S. Save the Whale!
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December 26, 2009 11:00am
billyborker

The correct date of Proclamation Day is December 28th. Until a few years back it was always celebrated as such, however in (I think) late 1990’s was moved to Dec 26 for the holiday in order to mesh with rest of Aus. Celebrations are still held at the Old Gum Tree on Dec 28 and at Holdfast Bay.
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December 26, 2009 11:03am
jims_whare

Mmm White bait fritters for breakkie courtesy of the mama in law. Very tasty. Borker you are a dim witted dips#$t. Change your user name to billy bunter as your moronic low iq attention seeking snide inappropriate comments remind me of the Bunter of the remove’.
Alternatively ring up WINZ and tell them that you no longer need the computer and internet connection that you got from them with a special grant and start saving $1 a week from your ill deserved bludger benefit to help pay for your living expenses in a year’s time when you get cut off, and cannot re-apply to due to your limited english skills.
At least when Whaleoil has a go at someone he does it with a measure of wit and more often than not his attacks contain a fair element of truth.
As to your question posed above; a dole bludger and sicness beneficiary are both drains on the tax payer. Are you only one or both?
An insurance recipient receives his income from a privately run company for which he had duely paid his premiums relating to such.

Surely even after smoking up a dack special over the last few days that you could have answered this question yourself?

What a born loser. At a time that everyone in NZ is at home or on holiday surrounded by friends and family and having a relaxing time the hermit grinch Korker is hunched over his WINZ bought computer screen trying to figure out witty ways of denigrading whaleoil (too chicken to do it on whale’s website). piss off you dimwit…….
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December 26, 2009 11:04am
billyborker

(too chicken to do it on whale’s website).

Not true. I have posted there, go take a look, and the fat ugly one has on more than one occasion threatened me with physical violence. However, when I offered to pay his airfare to Chch for a meet up, he did what whales do, and went to water.
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December 26, 2009 11:09am
Fletch

Here in NZ we get 4 statutory days off during Christmas: Christmas day, Boxing Day, New years Day, and the day after New years day. If any of them fall on a weekend they get transferred to the next weekday. (I used to do wages for a company).

Kiwi’s already know this anyway, so just putting up the info for any interested readers from overseas 🙂
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December 26, 2009 11:41am
tristanb

“An insurance recipient receives his income from a privately run company for which he had duely paid his premiums relating to such.”

Lots of people rip off insurance companies. Often the insurance companies won’t pursue it, they just gradually ramp up everyone’s premium. Just as our tax gets lost on the Harris’s, on the ANZ/ASB/Westpac/BNZ banks, on the “human crime waves” and others who make our papers. So there’s really no difference, except the government will do less to try to disprove a person’s depression and will give some benefit of the doubt.

The hard-core right-wingers will state that private enterprise is more efficient, but when a company gets to be enormous (like the multinational insurance firms) its inefficiencies will rival any government’s. Many of the private “efficiencies” are unjust (for instance dismissing whole claims for minor omissions of health background).

In all justness, hopefully whaleoil ‘wins’ his courtcase about name suppression, but loses his battle to keep his pay and has to resume working a real job.
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December 26, 2009 11:51am
dime

borkers from christchurch. explains a lot.

and saturday isnt just another day. the majority of people have the day off. the holiday should be carried over to the monday. aussie do it with their public holidays. arent we trying to catch up to them? why push ourselves further away.

and goddam i drank a lot of vodka last night!! thumbs up to the pilot brother who keeps my bar stocked with glorious duty free liquor 🙂
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December 26, 2009 12:11pm
MikeNZ

As we sit here replete with a full belly surrounded by friends and family having had a lovely relaxing time together, looking forward to an afternoon and evenings of games and cards, I can’t help thinking how fortunate I am and that there are millions who live in danger and turmoil.

World Peace in 2010?
It seems a little trite doesn’t it, but maybe if the movers and shakers actually changed their mindsets perhaps?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/opinion/16friedman.html

This means dealing to the troublemakers in the world who hate democracy in all the forums they exist in (especially in the UN) denying them a voice or the finance and resourc es to work with each other formenting mischief and mayhem.
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/iran+basij+member+describes+election+abuse/3466142

and those who aid and abet them too.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/16/iran-politics-government-chavez-opinions-columnists-claudia-rosett.html

I don’t see this working unless we have the political will to act and draw a line and act again and again, all we do is put off the inevitable, whilst the situation gets worse and worse until triggered by something or other.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/25/world/middleeast/25israel.html?_r=1
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December 26, 2009 2:11pm
Dirty Rat

Whoever adored “London Calling” by The Clash will like this

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/d/a/david_seaton/2009/12/help-identify-an-african-ameri.php
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December 26, 2009 6:23pm
Fletch

and saturday isnt just another day. the majority of people have the day off. the holiday should be carried over to the monday. aussie do it with their public holidays. arent we trying to catch up to them? why push ourselves further away.

dime, the Boxing Day holiday actually falls on this coming Monday, because today is a Saturday. This means that the restaurants who are charging an extra 15% on their prices for their staff to work on a holiday are ripping the public off; in fact, today is just a Saturday (as far as employment goes) and not a statutory holiday (no matter what One News says). The news says they also plan to do this again on New years.

Of course, if they plan to charge normal prices on Monday to make up for it…..
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December 26, 2009 6:55pm
billyborker

Fletch, wrong again.

TODAY is the Boxing Day holiday for anyone who normally works on a Saturday. Thus Jo Seagar’s Cafe in Oxford is closed today, open Monday, as they never open on a Stat day.

So, maybe, just maybe, someone at One has a better understanding of the Holidays Act that your good self.

As to cahrging 15%, don’t get me going, but WHY are certain hospitallity owners so stupid they cannot price to take holidays in to account? No other business group finds it necessary to charge extra on a stat day.
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December 26, 2009 7:16pm
Sonny Blount

Because the cost of labour for food outlets generally runs at 20-40%. If the cost of labour is increased by 1.5 times, this percentage is now 30-60% (assuming steady revenues, which only happens if some outlets are closed).

Why are you so stupid as to assume that small business’ run with 10-20% of fat in their prices?

I would hazard a guess that maybe 50% of small food outlets including cafes and restaurants do not run at any significant profit (annually, not just holidays)
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December 26, 2009 7:38pm
Fletch

billy, hmmm, you’re right, I just looked it up.
It is their holiday if they normally work on the Saturday.

Link: http://www.acepay.co.nz/xmasfri.htm
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December 26, 2009 9:23pm
Tauhei Notts

Fletch, your piece is interesting. The Auckland Racing Club was charging statutory holiday prices for food and grog today.
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December 26, 2009 9:24pm
Luc Hansen

A brief rebuttal to MikeNZ @ 2.11pm

First item: Mike talks about world peace, then quotes an article by that New York madman Thomas Freidman who, aside from giving the lie to the view that the well travelled is the broadminded amongst us, calls for a murderous war between Muslims, at a similar level of ferocity to the US Civil War.

Great. Just what we need for peace, more war. Good one Mike.

Second item: Mike alleges all the troublemakers in the world just HATE democracy – you know, those pesky troublemaking bastards who demand their human rights, like the right to live their lives free from foreign physical or economic colonisation, including and these days especially US oppression and brutality.

And Mike kindly provides a link to a supposedly genuine Iranian militia member who has seen the error of his ways. Excuse me if, while admitting I would not like to be a citizen of Iran with their theocratic rulers (let alone their former US sponsored dictator, who was even worse!) I take all that with a grain of salt. The context of the link is to demonise Iranians. Good work if you can get it, but what’s the point?

Oh, I know, nuke the bastards to save them, right?

Third item: just Mike reinforcing what a threat a Middle East country with a mid-last century military and a per capita income even below New Zealand’s (we are just over 1/2 of the US) at less than 1/4 of the US. And a population about 1/5 of the US. Yet this country, yes, Iran again, of course, relatively small and impoverished, definitely not developed in the western sense, is somehow a huge, imminent, clear and present danger to the US and the west. Ha ha ha.

Fourth item: of course, Mike just can’t resist this one. Mike says: we gotta draw the line! We gotta make a stand!

What Mike is talking about is this: the sixth or seventh most powerful military force in the world, with 2-300 undeclared nukes, exists under constant existential threat from the poor, militarily insignificant indigenous people dispossessed by those European invaders who even have the audacity to claim to be the ancestral kith and kin of those they have killed and dispossessed and continue to kill and dispossess and oppress.

I know. Laughable, isn’t it. But perhaps not to those continuing to resist the last great European colonialist enterprise.

And of course, it’s OK for the good guys and ladies of Israel to promise to use maximum force against all and sundry, men women and children, but for the Iranians to do the same, well, it just proves how evil they are, doesn’t it?

Doesn’t it?
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December 26, 2009 11:59pm
big bruv

Trev the muss is jubilant at the failure of another business and even happier that he has a very big part in its downfall, check out the sneering comments and glee as Trev basks in the financial failure of some poor bastard who was doing nothing more than exercising his rights.

Proving once again that Labour (and Trev in particular) are thugs who will go to any lengths to destroy those who dare speak out against them.

http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2009/12/26/are-we-still-banned/
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December 27, 2009 5:19am
Owen McShane

Seems we have more catching up with Australia to do.

Will someone tell our Government?

“Let’s face it: the ETS is dead” – from the Australian.

e.g.
“So we have a situation post-Copenhagen, where the two countries that between them are responsible for nearly half of all global emissions of CO2 are not committed to cutting emissions, far less binding targets. And more pointedly, they won’t have an ETS.

It is the latter that makes any move by Australia to have an ETS even more senseless than before. We would become ground zero for every spiv and main-chancer that would have an emission permit or million in their pocket to sell us.

Indeed, even “respectable” Wall Streeters would be — correction, are — salivating over the next big thing.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/lets-face-it-the-ets-is-dead/story-e6frg9if-1225813660266
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