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		<title>By: John Ansell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brash is only talking about taking spending back to 2005 levels. Then we could afford a top tax rate of 20%.

Were you unhappy with the level of Labour&#039;s spending in 2005?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brash is only talking about taking spending back to 2005 levels. Then we could afford a top tax rate of 20%.</p>
<p>Were you unhappy with the level of Labour&#8217;s spending in 2005?</p>
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		<title>By: lloydois</title>
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		<dc:creator>lloydois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zombie economics indeed.

But hey, if you&#039;ve been living under a rock aka Reid you wouldn&#039;t have a clue.

http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2009/12/04/zombie-economics/#more-8102</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zombie economics indeed.</p>
<p>But hey, if you&#8217;ve been living under a rock aka Reid you wouldn&#8217;t have a clue.</p>
<p><a href="http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2009/12/04/zombie-economics/#more-8102" rel="nofollow">http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2009/12/04/zombie-economics/#more-8102</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Ansell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me this isn&#039;t a problem... 

If we were a state of a combined US, Canada, Australia and NZ, look where we&#039;d come for average annual wages.

(2008 GDP per capita in $NZ, purchasing power parity).

1.   District of Columbia - $254,985
2.   Northwest Territories - $147,343
3.   Delaware - $109,903
4.   Alaska - $108,349
5.   Wyoming - $102,883
6.   Alberta - $102,201
7.   Connecticut - $95,823
8.   New York - $91,134
9.   Massachusetts - $87,175
10. New Jersey - $84,893
11. Virginia - $79,313
12. Saskatchewan - $79,060
13. Nevada - $78,332
14. Louisiana - $78,190
15. Minnesota - $78,143
16. Colorado - $78,111
17. Texas - $78,056
18. California - $77,977
19. Newfoundland and Labrador - $77,932
20. Western Australia - $77,109
21. Hawaii - $76,920
22. Washington - $76,491
23. Illinois - $76,230
24. Northern Territory - $75,687
25. North Dakota - $75,503
26. Maryland - $75,301
27. Nebraska - $72,467
28. Yukon - $72,325
UNITED STATES - $72,308
29. ACT - $72,253
30. South Dakota - $71,327
31. New Hampshire - $70,777
32. Iowa - $70,143
33. Rhode Island - $69,956
34. Pennsylvania - $68,983
35. Kansas - $67,977
36. North Carolina - $67,346
37. Wisconsin - $66,302
38. Oregon - $66,162
39. Nunavut - $63,968
40. Georgia - $63,734
41. Ohio - $63,711
42. Vermont - $63,558
43. Florida - $63,010
44. Tennessee - $62,963
45. New Mexico - $62,493
46. Missouri - $62,430
47. Oklahoma - $62,401
48. Utah - $62,261
49. Indiana - $62,029
CANADA - $60,580
50. Arizona - $59,425
51. Michigan - $59,350
52. Maine - $58,603
53. Montana - $57,577
54. Ontario - $57,336
55. British Columbia - $56,971
56. Kentucky - $56,869
57. Alabama - $56,599
AUSTRALIA - $56,012
58. New South Wales - $54,292
59. South Carolina - $54,178
60. Idaho - $53,722
61. Victoria - $53,586
62. Arkansas - $53,447
63. Manitoba - $53,181
64. Queensland - $53,086
65. West Virginia - $52,734
66. Quebec - $49,183
67. Mississippi - $48,472
68. South Australia - $48,318
69. New Brunswick - $46,229
70. Nova Scotia - $46,058
71. Tasmania - $44,993
72. NEW ZEALAND - $42,019
73. Prince Edward Island - $41,825

Dear Nats: what is your ambitious strategy for keeping New Zealand ahead of Prince Edward Island? 

(In fact, the 2009 figures may show they&#039;ve already overtaken us.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me this isn&#8217;t a problem&#8230; </p>
<p>If we were a state of a combined US, Canada, Australia and NZ, look where we&#8217;d come for average annual wages.</p>
<p>(2008 GDP per capita in $NZ, purchasing power parity).</p>
<p>1.   District of Columbia &#8211; $254,985<br />
2.   Northwest Territories &#8211; $147,343<br />
3.   Delaware &#8211; $109,903<br />
4.   Alaska &#8211; $108,349<br />
5.   Wyoming &#8211; $102,883<br />
6.   Alberta &#8211; $102,201<br />
7.   Connecticut &#8211; $95,823<br />
8.   New York &#8211; $91,134<br />
9.   Massachusetts &#8211; $87,175<br />
10. New Jersey &#8211; $84,893<br />
11. Virginia &#8211; $79,313<br />
12. Saskatchewan &#8211; $79,060<br />
13. Nevada &#8211; $78,332<br />
14. Louisiana &#8211; $78,190<br />
15. Minnesota &#8211; $78,143<br />
16. Colorado &#8211; $78,111<br />
17. Texas &#8211; $78,056<br />
18. California &#8211; $77,977<br />
19. Newfoundland and Labrador &#8211; $77,932<br />
20. Western Australia &#8211; $77,109<br />
21. Hawaii &#8211; $76,920<br />
22. Washington &#8211; $76,491<br />
23. Illinois &#8211; $76,230<br />
24. Northern Territory &#8211; $75,687<br />
25. North Dakota &#8211; $75,503<br />
26. Maryland &#8211; $75,301<br />
27. Nebraska &#8211; $72,467<br />
28. Yukon &#8211; $72,325<br />
UNITED STATES &#8211; $72,308<br />
29. ACT &#8211; $72,253<br />
30. South Dakota &#8211; $71,327<br />
31. New Hampshire &#8211; $70,777<br />
32. Iowa &#8211; $70,143<br />
33. Rhode Island &#8211; $69,956<br />
34. Pennsylvania &#8211; $68,983<br />
35. Kansas &#8211; $67,977<br />
36. North Carolina &#8211; $67,346<br />
37. Wisconsin &#8211; $66,302<br />
38. Oregon &#8211; $66,162<br />
39. Nunavut &#8211; $63,968<br />
40. Georgia &#8211; $63,734<br />
41. Ohio &#8211; $63,711<br />
42. Vermont &#8211; $63,558<br />
43. Florida &#8211; $63,010<br />
44. Tennessee &#8211; $62,963<br />
45. New Mexico &#8211; $62,493<br />
46. Missouri &#8211; $62,430<br />
47. Oklahoma &#8211; $62,401<br />
48. Utah &#8211; $62,261<br />
49. Indiana &#8211; $62,029<br />
CANADA &#8211; $60,580<br />
50. Arizona &#8211; $59,425<br />
51. Michigan &#8211; $59,350<br />
52. Maine &#8211; $58,603<br />
53. Montana &#8211; $57,577<br />
54. Ontario &#8211; $57,336<br />
55. British Columbia &#8211; $56,971<br />
56. Kentucky &#8211; $56,869<br />
57. Alabama &#8211; $56,599<br />
AUSTRALIA &#8211; $56,012<br />
58. New South Wales &#8211; $54,292<br />
59. South Carolina &#8211; $54,178<br />
60. Idaho &#8211; $53,722<br />
61. Victoria &#8211; $53,586<br />
62. Arkansas &#8211; $53,447<br />
63. Manitoba &#8211; $53,181<br />
64. Queensland &#8211; $53,086<br />
65. West Virginia &#8211; $52,734<br />
66. Quebec &#8211; $49,183<br />
67. Mississippi &#8211; $48,472<br />
68. South Australia &#8211; $48,318<br />
69. New Brunswick &#8211; $46,229<br />
70. Nova Scotia &#8211; $46,058<br />
71. Tasmania &#8211; $44,993<br />
72. NEW ZEALAND &#8211; $42,019<br />
73. Prince Edward Island &#8211; $41,825</p>
<p>Dear Nats: what is your ambitious strategy for keeping New Zealand ahead of Prince Edward Island? </p>
<p>(In fact, the 2009 figures may show they&#8217;ve already overtaken us.)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639384</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s always take away from the poorest..

and give more to the rich..

eh reid..?

and c&#039;mon..!..

brash..at the behest of his advisors(mccully/w.h.y..or whatever..?

played the race card for all it&#039;s worth..

it is what defines him/his time as national party leader..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s always take away from the poorest..</p>
<p>and give more to the rich..</p>
<p>eh reid..?</p>
<p>and c&#8217;mon..!..</p>
<p>brash..at the behest of his advisors(mccully/w.h.y..or whatever..?</p>
<p>played the race card for all it&#8217;s worth..</p>
<p>it is what defines him/his time as national party leader..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;he does advocate the tearing away of social support from the poorest/weakest&lt;/blockquote&gt;

no, he advocates removing support from those who are capable of supporting themselves, and why not?

&lt;blockquote&gt;and ‘iwi-kiwi’/orewa-speech..?..anyone..? and that conforms the ‘racist’.. (or..if not racist..deeply cynical/manipulative in the playing of the race card.. which is preferable to you..?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

phil, phil, phil, phil, phil.

How could you buy into the MSM/MP/Liarbore lefty spin that Brash was saying something other than all people are equal? I mean it&#039;s like agreeing with the village yokel in the national idiot of the year competition.

Seriously.

I bet you haven&#039;t even read the speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he does advocate the tearing away of social support from the poorest/weakest</p></blockquote>
<p>no, he advocates removing support from those who are capable of supporting themselves, and why not?</p>
<blockquote><p>and ‘iwi-kiwi’/orewa-speech..?..anyone..? and that conforms the ‘racist’.. (or..if not racist..deeply cynical/manipulative in the playing of the race card.. which is preferable to you..?</p></blockquote>
<p>phil, phil, phil, phil, phil.</p>
<p>How could you buy into the MSM/MP/Liarbore lefty spin that Brash was saying something other than all people are equal? I mean it&#8217;s like agreeing with the village yokel in the national idiot of the year competition.</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>I bet you haven&#8217;t even read the speech.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
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		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..he was simply saving we taxpayers money by avoiding expensive hotel cleaning bills..&quot;

yes..i read that as old school thrift..

&quot;..hard-hearted racist arsehole..&quot;

well..yes..he does advocate the tearing away of social support from the poorest/weakest..

so that&#039;s the &#039;hardhearted&#039; confirmed..

and &#039;iwi-kiwi&#039;/orewa-speech..?..anyone..?

and that conforms the &#039;racist&#039;..

(or..if not racist..deeply cynical/manipulative in the playing of the race card..

which is preferable to you..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..he was simply saving we taxpayers money by avoiding expensive hotel cleaning bills..&#8221;</p>
<p>yes..i read that as old school thrift..</p>
<p>&#8220;..hard-hearted racist arsehole..&#8221;</p>
<p>well..yes..he does advocate the tearing away of social support from the poorest/weakest..</p>
<p>so that&#8217;s the &#8216;hardhearted&#8217; confirmed..</p>
<p>and &#8216;iwi-kiwi&#8217;/orewa-speech..?..anyone..?</p>
<p>and that conforms the &#8216;racist&#8217;..</p>
<p>(or..if not racist..deeply cynical/manipulative in the playing of the race card..</p>
<p>which is preferable to you..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;whio was/is brash ‘working for’..?&quot;

The thing that lefties don&#039;t seem or admit to seeing phil, is that Don is an &#039;old-school&#039; man of integrity. 

Young lefties laugh at him for being geeky and old lefties give every impression they think he&#039;s one of the people they&#039;ve seen in the history books of the 20&#039;s where the fat top-hatted banker greedily gathered wads of money.

Every single impression I&#039;ve ever had of Don Brash has been of someone of faith, of integrity, of honour.

The media laughed at him for washing his socks in the hotel sink when he was RB governor. No-one in the media acknowledged the only possible truth behind that act which was he was simply saving we taxpayers money by avoiding expensive hotel cleaning bills.

No-one.

That to me speaks volumes of the misunderstanding of the public perception of this fine man.

It also speaks volumes of the man himself, for in that simple act which no doubt was repeated many unspoken unheard times, he made unseen contributions to the wealth of this country.

Now how phil can people like you who constantly deride him as a selfish hard-hearted racist arsehole, reconcile that. For what a man does in secret, so he truly is.

Fact is, to me, despite his marital issues and that&#039;s private and says nothing about his political integrity, he would have been a great PM. To me, he has more integrity in one skin cell than the entire 5th Liarbore Cabinet did throughout its execrable reign of lies, deceipt and cynical manipulation of the useful idiots that infest this country.

&quot;and btw..farrar did no stories on it..despite receiving those warnings since aug 2006..&quot;

Yes, I know phil, that&#039;s why I never posted on it. Out of courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;whio was/is brash ‘working for’..?&#8221;</p>
<p>The thing that lefties don&#8217;t seem or admit to seeing phil, is that Don is an &#8216;old-school&#8217; man of integrity. </p>
<p>Young lefties laugh at him for being geeky and old lefties give every impression they think he&#8217;s one of the people they&#8217;ve seen in the history books of the 20&#8242;s where the fat top-hatted banker greedily gathered wads of money.</p>
<p>Every single impression I&#8217;ve ever had of Don Brash has been of someone of faith, of integrity, of honour.</p>
<p>The media laughed at him for washing his socks in the hotel sink when he was RB governor. No-one in the media acknowledged the only possible truth behind that act which was he was simply saving we taxpayers money by avoiding expensive hotel cleaning bills.</p>
<p>No-one.</p>
<p>That to me speaks volumes of the misunderstanding of the public perception of this fine man.</p>
<p>It also speaks volumes of the man himself, for in that simple act which no doubt was repeated many unspoken unheard times, he made unseen contributions to the wealth of this country.</p>
<p>Now how phil can people like you who constantly deride him as a selfish hard-hearted racist arsehole, reconcile that. For what a man does in secret, so he truly is.</p>
<p>Fact is, to me, despite his marital issues and that&#8217;s private and says nothing about his political integrity, he would have been a great PM. To me, he has more integrity in one skin cell than the entire 5th Liarbore Cabinet did throughout its execrable reign of lies, deceipt and cynical manipulation of the useful idiots that infest this country.</p>
<p>&#8220;and btw..farrar did no stories on it..despite receiving those warnings since aug 2006..&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I know phil, that&#8217;s why I never posted on it. Out of courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
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		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so reid..

whio was/is brash &#039;working for&#039;..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so reid..</p>
<p>whio was/is brash &#8216;working for&#8217;..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
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		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..Just because the theory is correct, doesn’t mean it will work in practice when poorly implemented...&quot;

mm!!...ever heard of marxism..?

similar problems there..

and i am not claiming any &#039;i said it first&#039; dibs..

i just saw/listened to others saying it..reasonably early on..

and btw..farrar did no stories on it..despite receiving those warnings since aug 2006..

he just followed the official national party pre-election line in bullshit/spin..

..&#039;the recession will be over after xmas; (08)..

the point is..the freemarket/survival/prosperity of the fittest...

is so so &#039;wrong&#039;..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..Just because the theory is correct, doesn’t mean it will work in practice when poorly implemented&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>mm!!&#8230;ever heard of marxism..?</p>
<p>similar problems there..</p>
<p>and i am not claiming any &#8216;i said it first&#8217; dibs..</p>
<p>i just saw/listened to others saying it..reasonably early on..</p>
<p>and btw..farrar did no stories on it..despite receiving those warnings since aug 2006..</p>
<p>he just followed the official national party pre-election line in bullshit/spin..</p>
<p>..&#8217;the recession will be over after xmas; (08)..</p>
<p>the point is..the freemarket/survival/prosperity of the fittest&#8230;</p>
<p>is so so &#8216;wrong&#8217;..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, you weren&#039;t actually the first canary in the mine. Sorry to say.

I saw this coming before you and was telling my work colleagues about it. I blogged here on it on the extremely rare occasion  there were any threads on it. I don&#039;t care if you believe me or not, but it&#039;s true. I&#039;ve never wanted to claim first dibs, I realise that&#039;s important to you, but believe me phil, I saw it coming a long time before 2006.

You seem to imagine because I&#039;m a Hayek fan that I&#039;m therefore a fan of the way his theories are implemented. Please use your obvious intelligence to discern the difference.

Just because the theory is correct, doesn&#039;t mean it will work in practice when poorly implemented. How long has it taken to improve the internal combustion engine? Does that mean that Benz was wrong when he invented it?

Re: Greenspans &quot;instructions,&quot; I can&#039;t believe you&#039;re so disingenuous. He was the Fed Governor. Who, phil, was he working for if not the private shareholders of the Fed? You know this. Don&#039;t you? Don&#039;t disappoint me by pleading ignorance of the Fed, FFS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, you weren&#8217;t actually the first canary in the mine. Sorry to say.</p>
<p>I saw this coming before you and was telling my work colleagues about it. I blogged here on it on the extremely rare occasion  there were any threads on it. I don&#8217;t care if you believe me or not, but it&#8217;s true. I&#8217;ve never wanted to claim first dibs, I realise that&#8217;s important to you, but believe me phil, I saw it coming a long time before 2006.</p>
<p>You seem to imagine because I&#8217;m a Hayek fan that I&#8217;m therefore a fan of the way his theories are implemented. Please use your obvious intelligence to discern the difference.</p>
<p>Just because the theory is correct, doesn&#8217;t mean it will work in practice when poorly implemented. How long has it taken to improve the internal combustion engine? Does that mean that Benz was wrong when he invented it?</p>
<p>Re: Greenspans &#8220;instructions,&#8221; I can&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re so disingenuous. He was the Fed Governor. Who, phil, was he working for if not the private shareholders of the Fed? You know this. Don&#8217;t you? Don&#8217;t disappoint me by pleading ignorance of the Fed, FFS.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639354</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;That’s a fucking big road to hoe, and Key knows it. He’s not an idiot.&quot;

I&#039;ll also grant you he&#039;s a bloody good impersonator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;That’s a fucking big road to hoe, and Key knows it. He’s not an idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also grant you he&#8217;s a bloody good impersonator.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639353</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bruce..

where is the lie.?

for three + decades we have had this freemarket-experiment..

started by douglas-labour..continued/expanded under national..

and brash has..both in and out of power-roles..

been one of the main architects/executors of those &#039;wrong&#039; policies..

as i said..

where is the &#039;lie&#039;..?

(n.b..oz did not do that experiment..

they got rich..

we got poor..

duh..!..eh..?

&#039;more of the same..!&#039;..eh..?

just to see if that hot element still burns..?



phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bruce..</p>
<p>where is the lie.?</p>
<p>for three + decades we have had this freemarket-experiment..</p>
<p>started by douglas-labour..continued/expanded under national..</p>
<p>and brash has..both in and out of power-roles..</p>
<p>been one of the main architects/executors of those &#8216;wrong&#8217; policies..</p>
<p>as i said..</p>
<p>where is the &#8216;lie&#8217;..?</p>
<p>(n.b..oz did not do that experiment..</p>
<p>they got rich..</p>
<p>we got poor..</p>
<p>duh..!..eh..?</p>
<p>&#8216;more of the same..!&#8217;..eh..?</p>
<p>just to see if that hot element still burns..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639351</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I think the electorate is looking for something different to move forward with. Brash doesn&#039;t represent new or fresh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I think the electorate is looking for something different to move forward with. Brash doesn&#8217;t represent new or fresh.</p>
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		<title>By: brucehoult</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639350</link>
		<dc:creator>brucehoult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the problem with brash is that he is still in a state of total deniial over the fact that three decades + of his freemarket-bullshit..&quot;

If you repeat a lie enough times someone might believe you.

You could argue that Brash&#039;s ideas were tried for maybe four years under Labour (&#039;84 - &#039;88) and maybe three years under National (&#039;90 - &#039;93).

The other 23 of the last 30 years were big government as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the problem with brash is that he is still in a state of total deniial over the fact that three decades + of his freemarket-bullshit..&#8221;</p>
<p>If you repeat a lie enough times someone might believe you.</p>
<p>You could argue that Brash&#8217;s ideas were tried for maybe four years under Labour (&#8217;84 &#8211; &#8217;88) and maybe three years under National (&#8217;90 &#8211; &#8217;93).</p>
<p>The other 23 of the last 30 years were big government as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639349</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fascinating..!..reid..!

do tell more..!

i&#039;m on the edge of my seat..!

who exactly was &#039;instructing&#039; him..?

and are you attempting a new benchmark in hindsight..?..with this:..

&#039;.for it was very forseeable to anyone let alone those with access to date not available on the web) drove the US economy into the ground..&quot;

really..?

so you agree/d with the economic doom/gloom stories i have been linking to since early august 2006..?..then..?

but reid..who is/was &#039;the architect&#039;..?..if not greenspan..?

and what is brash..?

if not a mini-me of alan &#039;i was wrong&#039; greenspan..?

and this one..?

&quot;..The fact he was able to do that, does not mean the vehicle wasn’t operating correctly at the time...&quot;

i mean..w.t.f..!

please explain..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascinating..!..reid..!</p>
<p>do tell more..!</p>
<p>i&#8217;m on the edge of my seat..!</p>
<p>who exactly was &#8216;instructing&#8217; him..?</p>
<p>and are you attempting a new benchmark in hindsight..?..with this:..</p>
<p>&#8216;.for it was very forseeable to anyone let alone those with access to date not available on the web) drove the US economy into the ground..&#8221;</p>
<p>really..?</p>
<p>so you agree/d with the economic doom/gloom stories i have been linking to since early august 2006..?..then..?</p>
<p>but reid..who is/was &#8216;the architect&#8217;..?..if not greenspan..?</p>
<p>and what is brash..?</p>
<p>if not a mini-me of alan &#8216;i was wrong&#8217; greenspan..?</p>
<p>and this one..?</p>
<p>&#8220;..The fact he was able to do that, does not mean the vehicle wasn’t operating correctly at the time&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>i mean..w.t.f..!</p>
<p>please explain..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639345</link>
		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phil, Greenspan was not the architect, he was the lackey.

He (IMO deliberately under instruction, for it was very forseeable to anyone let alone those with access to date not available on the web) drove the US economy into the ground. The fact he was able to do that, does not mean the vehicle wasn&#039;t operating correctly at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phil, Greenspan was not the architect, he was the lackey.</p>
<p>He (IMO deliberately under instruction, for it was very forseeable to anyone let alone those with access to date not available on the web) drove the US economy into the ground. The fact he was able to do that, does not mean the vehicle wasn&#8217;t operating correctly at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Viking2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639342</link>
		<dc:creator>Viking2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remind me how much change there will be when Labour pays its $880,000 for the ledge cards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remind me how much change there will be when Labour pays its $880,000 for the ledge cards?</p>
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		<title>By: Put it away</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639341</link>
		<dc:creator>Put it away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh life is good with RIP, day three of no unreadable content-free full-stop abuse. Says 23 responses, I only see 18. Pretty soon the bludger will be wondering why no one responds to his meaningless shrieks . Just like his own blog...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh life is good with RIP, day three of no unreadable content-free full-stop abuse. Says 23 responses, I only see 18. Pretty soon the bludger will be wondering why no one responds to his meaningless shrieks . Just like his own blog&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639337</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reid..from the tone/tenor of yr words..

it is obvious you have not yet seen/digested the recant/mea/culpa from alan greenspan..eh..?

where he admits he was/is/got it all &#039;wrong&#039;..?

with his admission the economic crash being the irrefutable confirmation of that &#039;wrong&#039;..

you really should seek it out..eh..?

&#039;cos..y&#039;know..!..if the architect is saying it&#039;s a leaky building..

it&#039;s looks a bit dodgy to be still trying to flog it/hawk it around..

..saying it is watertight..eh..?

(it cd effect yr &#039;credibility&#039;..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

(oh..!..and far be it for me to be a linguistic-pedant..eh..?

but how many &#039;roads&#039; have you seen &#039;hoe&#039;d..?..

and why would you..?

i think &#039;row&#039; is the word you were grasping for..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reid..from the tone/tenor of yr words..</p>
<p>it is obvious you have not yet seen/digested the recant/mea/culpa from alan greenspan..eh..?</p>
<p>where he admits he was/is/got it all &#8216;wrong&#8217;..?</p>
<p>with his admission the economic crash being the irrefutable confirmation of that &#8216;wrong&#8217;..</p>
<p>you really should seek it out..eh..?</p>
<p>&#8216;cos..y&#8217;know..!..if the architect is saying it&#8217;s a leaky building..</p>
<p>it&#8217;s looks a bit dodgy to be still trying to flog it/hawk it around..</p>
<p>..saying it is watertight..eh..?</p>
<p>(it cd effect yr &#8216;credibility&#8217;..eh..?..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
<p>(oh..!..and far be it for me to be a linguistic-pedant..eh..?</p>
<p>but how many &#8216;roads&#8217; have you seen &#8216;hoe&#8217;d..?..</p>
<p>and why would you..?</p>
<p>i think &#8216;row&#8217; is the word you were grasping for..)</p>
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		<title>By: tvb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/goff_says_axe_2025_taskforce.html#comment-639336</link>
		<dc:creator>tvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The taskforce is useful.  It provides one end of the spectrum and allows National to sit somewhere between them and the Labour Party the other end.  I think the public will be happy with that.  The Taskforce did not really really say why we are falling behind.  We are trying to build our economy on Agriculture commodity based exports with a few other things flung in.  WE have our major dairy exporter not able to raise capital because its current shareholders will not let it.  We have our mineral wealth tied up under conservation land.  We have a welfare system that rewards the lazy and the promiscuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The taskforce is useful.  It provides one end of the spectrum and allows National to sit somewhere between them and the Labour Party the other end.  I think the public will be happy with that.  The Taskforce did not really really say why we are falling behind.  We are trying to build our economy on Agriculture commodity based exports with a few other things flung in.  WE have our major dairy exporter not able to raise capital because its current shareholders will not let it.  We have our mineral wealth tied up under conservation land.  We have a welfare system that rewards the lazy and the promiscuous.</p>
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