Has Greenpeace paid up?
December 4th, 2009 at 1:19 pm by David FarrarNow that John Key has announced he is going to Copenhagen, has Lucy Lawless handed over the cheque for $5,000 to cover his airfares?
I think Treasury should send someone over to Greenpeace to collect the money.
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December 4th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
No, that would be a very bad look in realpolitik terms.
There’s a reason I don’t (formally) belong to any environmental NGO.
Once you signal you are aligned to them, then you lose a lot of credibility and influence. One of the reasons Sandra Lee achieved little as Minister of Conservation was her continued member of Royal F&B, as well as bringing in Kevin Smith as her principal adviser.
You’ve got to be scrupulous, and generate signals that you are an independent sovereign power. It’s bad enough in the IWC that were seen as the surrogate Greenpeace member already. The PM is there at Copenhagen as NZ’s representative, not Greenpeaces.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
True Chthoniid – It’s how much of New Zealand he’s representing at the moment that’s the question.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
It could be compensation for the money wasted by police when Greenpeace played pirates in a misguided protest agaisnt Fonterra recently.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Nope, they gave it to someone else
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0911/S00318.htm
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Its all mindless posturing anyway just like this video of lovely Lucy in the shower
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Why on earth should a citizen of this country pay her Prime Minister in an effort to encourage his presence at the Copenhagen conference?
He should of confirmed his attendance from the start but instead he waited for the “big dogs” to confirm their attendance, what exactly is he playing at here? Where is the consistency? The proven leadership that is talked about in the media?
This so-called Prime Minister is gutless and is being thrown around like a political puppet. His senior advisers should be held a lot more accountable for his short-falls and inconsistency.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I loved how the media reported this. First off it was “Why isn’t John Key going, why not, why why?????” The second he changes his mind the media switches stories “Is John Key a Flip Flop for going?”
Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don’t.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
DRHILL, I believe there is a third option to your logic – ‘not dammed if he did in the first place’.
Ignoring the fact that the governments commitments are inconsistent with the fundamentally flawed ETS recently passed…
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Well it was a flip flop.
His schedule is like that of Britney Spears. Commit to this then cancel ( Dalai Lama) , refuse to go to that and then go after all. Many other instances in policy areas as well( Working for families ,Iraqi War, etc)
Lets face it doing it like this means Key has become like a pop princess. He doesnt seem to have it in his head that hes now John Key PM, the two being completely linked.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Shes still sulking that John isn’t on call for her.
Maybe if she was actually a kiwi and not just another hollywood loon I’d care.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I’m sure Lucy Lawless’ offer still stands, and I’m sure John Key will decline to take it up. One thing I do like about the PM is that he doesn’t rort every dollar he can possibly can. I wish his Ministers and MPs would follow that lead, but Deputy Double Dipton leads the pack of rorters, and despite his setting a high standard of responsibility himself, Key seems unable to rein them in.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hmmm… The Dom Post politics quiz has this question:
I chose True, but was marked incorrect. Huh?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/politics/3114592/The-Dominion-Posts-politics-quiz
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
5 thousand dollars?
Vote:Fuck that
Send Greenpeace a bill for at least 5 trillion
December 4th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
He turned it down, he refused to see them. He can’t go ask for it now.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I imagine they gave him a lot more than just $5000 to go.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Toad
Have Met and Red Russ managed to reign in your lot yet?
Or are you still ripping off the tax payer?
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
What about only collecting $2500 and getting Key a one way ticket?
http://www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
The idiot known as Lawless should be careful; her delivery boy partner, Jim “Numbers” Salinger has probably adjusted the cheque upwards to account for his court case.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
If I see Key on TV giving one more of those “heh, I just fell off the turnip truck comin into town” looks, I’m going to start gettin cross! Enough is enough. And now the stupid man is going to Carbinhagin.
Vote:If I, a scientific nobody, realises that its time to “PULL UP”, on this issue, why doesn’t he?
December 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
noodle, because there’s something in it for him. kudos perhaps. or a larger more powerful UN role after sleepy ‘lil nz. or green investments that will appreciate if he does his bit. or all three.
Vote:December 4th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
i think the point that is being missed in all this is that of Fonterra and our economy:
Vote:I beleive that the majority of Fonterra product is made into milk powder. Who is probably the largest single purchaser of said product?
One very large corrupt warmist org based in New York!
It is highly likely that no ETS then lower powder sales???
Conspiracy theory; possibly however it is more likely than some i have heard recently.
December 5th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I bet Greenpeace doesn’t want to pay any more!
Vote:Even Al Gore has pulled out of going to Copenhagen – I think JK is going just to watch the s*** hit the fan now that the truth behind the justification is coming out, and the whole cost/benefit equation is clearly looking so scandalous. Hey, I’d like to be a fly on the wall! The only worry now are the crazy socialist Euros and Yanks. At least the socialist Aussies have been dealt to.
If the climate change driven trade blackmail from Europe and America is dropped I suppose we can look for our ETS to be withdrawn next year.
I hope the world will start to refocus on the serious issues, like standards of living in all countries, but especially those where poverty prevails. A fraction of the resources spent on this socialist inspired climate change diversion and power play over the last decade could have made vast differences to human welfare and political stability in many parts of the world.
Hopefully it will also put to bed any further objection to the development of our offshore drilling programme. Might even let us exploit our vast coal resource.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Toad, who the hell is Lucy Lawless?
Seriously who elected her? You guys really struggle with the concept of a representative democracy don’t you.
Vote:December 5th, 2009 at 10:16 am
She’s Xena, the warrior princess. better do what she says or she’ll fuck you up.
Vote:December 5th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Who wants to listen to the likes of Lawless, Salinger and the other young woman whose name I cannot remember – she made a film one I believe, who are rather lazy and stupid puppets of Greenpeace, a huge financial conglomerate worldwide. It has a pyramid selling technique, rather like a ponzi, to obtain money from gullible ignorant people.
Vote:December 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
don’t you just love how the greenpeace symbols of the dove with the olive branch and the rainbow are straight out genesis, of Noah and the Ark?.
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